TFC Cup 2012 - Blue

Vote away!

what exactly are we voting on?

I picked the team with the best looking jersey. Just like all-star game balloting, the ones who get the most votes are not usually the ones who are the most deserving. Besides we all know who is going to run away with this one.

rtsafft wrote:I picked the team with the best looking jersey. Just like all-star game balloting, the ones who get the most votes are not usually the ones who are the most deserving. Besides we all know who is going to run away with this one.

And who would that be?? Any one of 5-6 teams could win this one.

I'll give you 1 guess and there is a 99% chance you get it right

rtsafft wrote:I'll give you 1 guess and there is a 99% chance you get it right

Diamonds? TFC are beatable by several teams in this one.

thiescj wrote:

rtsafft wrote:I'll give you 1 guess and there is a 99% chance you get it right

Diamonds? TFC are beatable by several teams in this one.

Diamonds?
How could you pick between Solar and TFC in this one? They tied in league play this fall 2-2.... but TFC has the stronger record. Sometime one team just has the others number. Will guest players play a role? I would lean to TFC - going to be fun to watch.

Hey what's up with TFC 01- they aren't scoring many goals? Are they missing any top forwards, well, tall powerful etc? You know who I mean?

How bout TFC blue!! Two big wins today. They looked really good out there today. Congrats on moving on, you deserve it!

imabee wrote:How bout TFC blue!! Two big wins today. They looked really good out there today. Congrats on moving on, you deserve it!

So exciting when it all comes together! Those were a couple of great games today!!

It's been a good showing generally for the D3 teams overall. Not sure what this means other than these teams have represented D3 well!

Diamonds 0, Sting East 0
Diamonds 1, TFC 01 2
Diamonds 1, TSC Hurricanes 0

Lightning Black 1, DTFW 0
Lightning Black 0, Texans Red North 2
Lightning Black 1, Solar Chelsea 1

TFC Blue 0, Solar Chelsea 3
TFC Blue 2, Solar White 1
TFC Blue 2, Texans Red North 0

Solar Chelsea over TFC Blue in PKs.

Final: TFC 01 vs Solar-Chelsea

So, how many red and yellow cards did Lightning Black collect at the tournament?

Tfc 1- solar Chelsea 0 in the final

thiescj wrote:

rtsafft wrote:I picked the team with the best looking jersey. Just like all-star game balloting, the ones who get the most votes are not usually the ones who are the most deserving. Besides we all know who is going to run away with this one.

And who would that be?? Any one of 5-6 teams could win this one.

Let's tap the brakes on 5-6 teams. You are doing quite a disservice to the 3 top seeds. 5-6 is quite an exaggeration. This was a 2-3 team tournament, period. Very impressed with the D3 teams. Particularly, TFC Blue going to 7-8 PK's to reach finals over Monty and Diamonds looked solid.

NotGuilty wrote:

thiescj wrote:

rtsafft wrote:I picked the team with the best looking jersey. Just like all-star game balloting, the ones who get the most votes are not usually the ones who are the most deserving. Besides we all know who is going to run away with this one.

And who would that be?? Any one of 5-6 teams could win this one.

Let's tap the brakes on 5-6 teams. You are doing quite a disservice to the 3 top seeds. 5-6 is quite an exaggeration. This was a 2-3 team tournament, period. Very impressed with the D3 teams. Particularly, TFC Blue going to 7-8 PK's to reach finals over Monty and Diamonds looked solid.

I hate to correct this but Monty came out the winner in the Shootout over TFC Blue. Kind of interesting to note that this was TFC Blue's first PK Shootout ever since the team formed in the spring of their 2nd grade year.

weatherbug wrote:

NotGuilty wrote:

thiescj wrote:

rtsafft wrote:I picked the team with the best looking jersey. Just like all-star game balloting, the ones who get the most votes are not usually the ones who are the most deserving. Besides we all know who is going to run away with this one.

And who would that be?? Any one of 5-6 teams could win this one.

Let's tap the brakes on 5-6 teams. You are doing quite a disservice to the 3 top seeds. 5-6 is quite an exaggeration. This was a 2-3 team tournament, period. Very impressed with the D3 teams. Particularly, TFC Blue going to 7-8 PK's to reach finals over Monty and Diamonds looked solid.

I hate to correct this but Monty came out the winner in the Shootout over TFC Blue. Kind of interesting to note that this was TFC Blue's first PK Shootout ever since the team formed in the spring of their 2nd grade year.

I got to watch on to the TFC 01G games... their forward needs a birth certificate check. She look's 13-14-15-16.... really physically dominating every match-up. I really can't believe she is 11-12 - amazing the disparity. I guess she is also nationally ranked as a sprinter according to one of the parents.

One observation I have after only watching 1/2 a game: the team had a few skilled players, but you could see the d-line just trying to do the dump and run to her as often as they could. This is actually going to hurt that team as they do not look like they could carry these wins with our this top player.

IMHO, I do not think they would be a D1 team without her.

NotGuilty wrote:

thiescj wrote:

rtsafft wrote:I picked the team with the best looking jersey. Just like all-star game balloting, the ones who get the most votes are not usually the ones who are the most deserving. Besides we all know who is going to run away with this one.

And who would that be?? Any one of 5-6 teams could win this one.

Let's tap the brakes on 5-6 teams. You are doing quite a disservice to the 3 top seeds. 5-6 is quite an exaggeration. This was a 2-3 team tournament, period. Very impressed with the D3 teams. Particularly, TFC Blue going to 7-8 PK's to reach finals over Monty and Diamonds looked solid.

My initial thoughts were that Monte, Red North, Solar White, Sting G. and Texans Fort Worth all could beat TFC if they played well. Some teams didn't have their "A" games this weekend and the team who probably plays the UGLIEST style of soccer walked away with the championship. It is very clear on what they are told to do and it works very well for them.

The biggest suprise for me was TFC Blue. They played wonderful soccer and have really improved over the past year. Congrats to them on a great weekend.

TFC Blue had a really nice tournament this weekend. We were really close to winning on PK's.

Saturday's games vs Solar White and Texans-Hollis were two of the best we've played. So many great individual performances.

Hopefully, all of this translates into better results in the spring LH season.

allhatnocattle wrote:TFC Blue had a really nice tournament this weekend. We were really close to winning on PK's.

Saturday's games vs Solar White and Texans-Hollis were two of the best we've played. So many great individual performances.

Hopefully, all of this translates into better results in the spring LH season.

As a Solar parent, I would have to agree. I thought that TFC Blue demonstrated great team work (passing, spacing, etc.). Out of 4 different teams that our girls played against this weekend, TFC Blue played the best possession and skill-based soccer. What they did lack was super fast forwards and physical aggressiveness that other teams had. I do not think any of TFC Blue girls were warned or given a yellow card by the ref nor any of our girls knocked down or had to be carried off the field during the 2 games against them.

jae wrote:

allhatnocattle wrote:TFC Blue had a really nice tournament this weekend. We were really close to winning on PK's.

Saturday's games vs Solar White and Texans-Hollis were two of the best we've played. So many great individual performances.

Hopefully, all of this translates into better results in the spring LH season.

As a Solar parent, I would have to agree. I thought that TFC Blue demonstrated great team work (passing, spacing, etc.). Out of 4 different teams that our girls played against this weekend, TFC Blue played the best possession and skill-based soccer. What they did lack was super fast forwards and physical aggressiveness that other teams had. I do not think any of TFC Blue girls were warned or given a yellow card by the ref nor any of our girls knocked down or had to be carried off the field during the 2 games against them.

I will third TFC Blue's style of play but it is not a new thing for them. DD's team played them in 1st round of QT back at start of U11 and I noticed then this team plays quality soccer. I've been an admirer from afar for several years now how this group has stayed united and kept their DD's balanced and improving year to year.

However folks need to slow down on labeling TFC Guzman a 1 trick pony. I remember when everyone claimed they'd fizzle to nothing once many of the princess warriors left mid-season last year. They still ended up a top 5 team.

This year they didn't get numbers to the last minute - still a top 5 team. The fact is there are several teams in the age group with 1 physically dominant forward, but those teams haven't been consistent top 5 teams year in year out. The style they play works to the strengths of their current players. Based on how my DD plays I wouldn't want her in that system, but it works for them and I'd put money no matter what they claim behind closed doors MANY of the other D1 coaches would be doing the exact same thing if they had such a player. Actually some of them already do - it just doesn't appear as obvious because the size/maturity gap isn't as pronounced as with the TFC top forward.

Maybe Guzman isn't top 5 without her, but to say they aren't D1 without her is rookie talk. If I remember correctly, they tied sting flanagan 2-2 last year and she wasn't present. Give the other DD's on this team their due credit. They can play.

TFC Guzman is not the team to take lightly. I agree with your statement 3-4-3

I personnaly think TFC Guzman would be nowhere the top 10 if North Texas soccer was called according to the Laws of the game. They are overly physical, late hits, cheap shots, etc. There are some skilled girls on the team, but the reliance on physcially beating the tar out of other girls is what allows them to win games. But hey, they're winning, so who cares?

Rudder wrote:I personnaly think TFC Guzman would be nowhere the top 10 if North Texas soccer was called according to the Laws of the game. They are overly physical, late hits, cheap shots, etc. There are some skilled girls on the team, but the reliance on physcially beating the tar out of other girls is what allows them to win games. But hey, they're winning, so who cares?

Disagree. That would fly if the rest of the top 10 were all finesse, posession oriented teams that don't rely on physical play. IMO, what allows TFC to win games is they have a solid D, and they compact the midfield conceeding space most opponents don't know what to do with. Their mids are effective at counter attacking and linking up with a very fast, dangerous forward. Said forward is also becoming skilled at dropping deep into the midfield and picking up the outlet. They are physical yes, but so are the MAJORITY of D1 teams.

Based on games I saw first half of U12, only ONE team in D1 consistently plays possession soccer and that is SR. New look D'feeters were closest 2nd at keeping the ball, but I wouldn't call it posession just yet (major Kudos to their coach though for letting his girls play real soccer even when they could win more games with defensive tactics).

Sting, Texans (both teams) and Solar Monte play pretty much the same style with Sting having the best athletes and probably MORE physical than TFC. FCD, Kicks and Andro are stylistically similar with about the same physicality but with Kicks playing more long ball and long range shooting this year than last.

TFC style is unique in D1 in that they don't contest their attacking third and sometimes willingly give up the middle third too, but Sting vs. Bates @ Texas Cup - Flan did the exact same thing for entire second half and 1st extra time period, and Texans Higg will do the same if they get up a goal on a team. I just don't see a huge difference across D1 in style of play.

I'd go further and say you don't need five fingers to count the teams that currently play posession soccer in all of Lake Highlands '01.

1. SR (d1), 2. Kicks Gold (d2), 3. TFC Blue (d3) .....(who else?) I haven't seen the other D3 teams recently, but most of D1 and D2 have no grounds to be calling out Guzman.

3-4-3 wrote:

Rudder wrote:I personnaly think TFC Guzman would be nowhere the top 10 if North Texas soccer was called according to the Laws of the game. They are overly physical, late hits, cheap shots, etc. There are some skilled girls on the team, but the reliance on physcially beating the tar out of other girls is what allows them to win games. But hey, they're winning, so who cares?

Disagree. That would fly if the rest of the top 10 were all finesse, posession oriented teams that don't rely on physical play. IMO, what allows TFC to win games is they have a solid D, and they compact the midfield conceeding space most opponents don't know what to do with. Their mids are effective at counter attacking and linking up with a very fast, dangerous forward. Said forward is also becoming skilled at dropping deep into the midfield and picking up the outlet. They are physical yes, but so are the MAJORITY of D1 teams.

Based on games I saw first half of U12, only ONE team in D1 consistently plays possession soccer and that is SR. New look D'feeters were closest 2nd at keeping the ball, but I wouldn't call it posession just yet (major Kudos to their coach though for letting his girls play real soccer even when they could win more games with defensive tactics).

Sting, Texans (both teams) and Solar Monte play pretty much the same style with Sting having the best athletes and probably MORE physical than TFC. FCD, Kicks and Andro are stylistically similar with about the same physicality but with Kicks playing more long ball and long range shooting this year than last.

TFC style is unique in D1 in that they don't contest their attacking third and sometimes willingly give up the middle third too, but Sting vs. Bates @ Texas Cup - Flan did the exact same thing for entire second half and 1st extra time period, and Texans Higg will do the same if they get up a goal on a team. I just don't see a huge difference across D1 in style of play.

I'd go further and say you don't need five fingers to count the teams that currently play posession soccer in all of Lake Highlands '01.

1. SR (d1), 2. Kicks Gold (d2), 3. TFC Blue (d3) .....(who else?) I haven't seen the other D3 teams recently, but most of D1 and D2 have no grounds to be calling out Guzman.

Will you share your affiliation? You obviously are tied to a team in D1 so I am just curious where your bias lands? Also, I don't watch much D1 anymore, but I would think that style for some teams change based on opponents. More athletic, physical teams can beat a lesser possession team out of possession soccer. I'd just like to know what angle you are watching to form your opinions.