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Post by coachr 10/04/12, 08:53 am

So it's been a week or two since the Dempsey doubters stuck their heads out of their holes. Dempsey scored a brace Saturday then scored again yesterday against Chelsea. Since the beginning of the 2010-2011 season only Van Persie and Rooney have more goals.
Rumors of a 10£m move to Arsenal are in the air.
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Post by oldboot 10/04/12, 09:49 am

coachr wrote:So it's been a week or two since the Dempsey doubters stuck their heads out of their holes. Dempsey scored a brace Saturday then scored again yesterday against Chelsea. Since the beginning of the 2010-2011 season only Van Persie and Rooney have more goals.
Rumors of a 10£m move to Arsenal are in the air.

So you admit he is only the third best player in the EPL . . .

Serioulsy, Dempsey may not be the greatest American player in the EPL, but he has clearly made a case for himself as the most successful American to play in the EPL.

How can anyone from this part of the world argue against a good ol' boy from East Texas showing up the Brits at their game. Even if he did play for the Texans Smile

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Post by fourfourtwo 10/04/12, 10:13 am

I hope Clint stays at Fulham, but then again, if he's ever going to get a legitimate shot at regular minutes in a top club, it's got to be now or never. He's risen to every challenge so far, and Arsenal is currently lacking depth at midfield. He's got a shot.

I still can't see Clint's style fitting a gooner first 11 mid. Spurs might be a better fit.

Just curious, who would go in front of Dempsey as best American player all time?

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Post by Gunners 10/04/12, 10:26 am

fourfourtwo wrote:I hope Clint stays at Fulham, but then again, if he's ever going to get a legitimate shot at regular minutes in a top club, it's got to be now or never. He's risen to every challenge so far, and Arsenal is currently lacking depth at midfield. He's got a shot. He might start on the left, but would be a tough choice between him and Theo on the right (in current form no doubt it's Deuce). Certainly don't think he'd start ahead of Wilshire, Arteta, or Song in the middle.

I still can't see Clint's style fitting a gooner first 11 mid. Spurs might be a better fit. When Spurs don't make the Champions League and Bale/Modric leave this might be his best bet. As an Arsenal fan, I would hate to see him at Spuds!

Just curious, who would go in front of Dempsey as best American player all time?

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Post by oldboot 10/04/12, 10:40 am

fourfourtwo wrote:I hope Clint stays at Fulham, but then again, if he's ever going to get a legitimate shot at regular minutes in a top club, it's got to be now or never. He's risen to every challenge so far, and Arsenal is currently lacking depth at midfield. He's got a shot.

I still can't see Clint's style fitting a gooner first 11 mid. Spurs might be a better fit.

Just curious, who would go in front of Dempsey as best American player all time?

I read that he wants to play for one of the top three so he can compete in the Champions League. my DD would tell you that the best American player to compete in the EPL is Landon Donovan. I would love to see Donovan play a full season or two in the EPL in order to make a better comparison.

I think Dempsey's main competition for "best" American player would be from American keepers (apples to oranges comparison?): Tim Howard, Brad Friedel and Marcus Hahnemann.

The only others I am aware of that might be worthy of comparison are Brian McBride or Jay Demerit

As far as field players go, Dempsey would be my choice.
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Post by bigtex75081 10/04/12, 11:12 am

fourfourtwo wrote:Just curious, who would go in front of Dempsey as best American player all time?
In the discussion with Clint Dempsey...
Brad Friedel
Claudio Reyna
John Harkes
Brian McBride
Kasey Keller
Joe-Max Moore
Thomas Dooley
Landon Donovan
Tab Ramos
Tim Howard
Eric Wynalda

Dempsey is playing great but it is still early in his career. Some of these guys have had very long careers and I think longevity should count for a little extra something.
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Post by coachr 10/04/12, 11:34 am

bigtex75081 wrote:
fourfourtwo wrote:Just curious, who would go in front of Dempsey as best American player all time?
In the discussion with Clint Dempsey...
Brad Friedel
Claudio Reyna
John Harkes
Brian McBride
Kasey Keller
Joe-Max Moore
Thomas Dooley
Landon Donovan
Tab Ramos
Tim Howard
Eric Wynalda

Dempsey is playing great but it is still early in his career. Some of these guys have had very long careers and I think longevity should count for a little extra something.
You are correct and when he does leave England he'll have 2-3 times more goals than anyone on your list. That should lock up number 1? Nope. He already did. Landycakes is too late to the party. Old man Brad is the top keeper followed by Timmy
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Post by Sent to the Stands 10/04/12, 11:41 am

I think the issue is not longevity in general (i.e. total career - all leagues), but results in the EPL.
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Post by Guest 10/04/12, 01:29 pm

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fourfourtwo wrote:I hope Clint stays at Fulham, but then again, if he's ever going to get a legitimate shot at regular minutes in a top club, it's got to be now or never. He's risen to every challenge so far, and Arsenal is currently lacking depth at midfield. He's got a shot. He might start on the left, but would be a tough choice between him and Theo on the right (in current form no doubt it's Deuce). Certainly don't think he'd start ahead of Wilshire, Arteta, or Song in the middle.

I still can't see Clint's style fitting a gooner first 11 mid. Spurs might be a better fit. When Spurs don't make the Champions League and Bale/Modric leave this might be his best bet. As an Arsenal fan, I would hate to see him at Spuds!

Just curious, who would go in front of Dempsey as best American player all time?

Don't forget The Ox or Podolski on the left. ...

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Post by the7wolf 10/04/12, 05:19 pm

If nothing else, the Brits have come to respect the Yanks playing soccerball a lot more in the past few years since Deuce and Landy-Cakes turned it on. London and Merseyside are two notoriously soccer-heavy cities where being glassed in the face for having a difference of opinion isn't always frowned upon. Friedel has had a heck of a season at Spurs but then American goalkeepers have always had good respect overseas.

Happy to see Dempsey so popular at the club. Don't know if it would be better for him to become a legend at Fulham or move elsewhere and risk being a bit-player.

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Arsenal chief Scout Steve Rowley confirms Interest Clint Dempsey and are willing to negotiate around the £10Million Mark

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Post by coachr 10/04/12, 05:30 pm

Looks like Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham and Newcastle are sniffing deuces shorts. The Daily Mail calls him a top performer:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2127927/Arsenal-close-Fulhams-Clint-Dempsey.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
The Telegraph's take:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/9196516/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-is-monitoring-Fulham-forward-Clint-Dempsey.html
The Guardian:
http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/09/football-transfer-rumours?cat=football&type=article
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Post by coachr 10/04/12, 06:15 pm

As of this posting, there are 707 fresh google search news articles about Clint's transfer situation.

Ehhhhemmmm.

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Post by Gunners 13/04/12, 09:31 am

Figured some might find this article relevant to this thread.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/grant_wahl/04/13/us.performances/index.html?eref=twitter_feed


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