Is ODP worth it?

by GrandTXSoccer 06/08/13, 10:18 am

I honestly don't have a clue, it's been years since my DD went through it but I keep getting asked by friends of mine with younger kids looking to try it for the first time. All I know is years ago it was a pretty cool thing and the coaching was outstanding, however over the last couple of years I've heard that it wasn't worth it and definitely not worth it at the younger ages. I'd heard it's really more about the money and less about truly being a development program.

What's the boards opinion?

by Guest 06/08/13, 10:27 am

It is another form of select soccer. Pay to Play Smile

by Ed 06/08/13, 10:33 am

kickballrules wrote:It is another form of select soccer. Pay to Play

Far less expensive than select soccer though. I think it is easily worth it. Most of the coaches are pretty good.

by Big Daddy 06/08/13, 11:09 am

by axlefoley 06/08/13, 11:20 am

by MoveYourFeet 06/08/13, 11:29 am

I'm not sure who keeps saying it is expensive. I find it to be very cheap comparatively. If your DD makes the Regional Camp in the summer, then you are looking to spend some $$$ for travelling. But if they don't, then they have gotten more touches, different coaches to listen and learn from, and good competition to practice/play against. The opportunities there are great to play and be seen.

In my personal experience, my DD got invited to move up a year and join the older ODP team at Nationals (here in Frisco). She got to play against older and faster competition from other states all weekend. The cost? Not a dime.

In the end, it probably isn't for everyone, and don't expect this to be your ticket to replace Wambach on the WNT. This is just a venue to play and learn at a very reasonable price.

by old man 06/08/13, 12:35 pm

No. It was okay for a while but with ECNL it has slid down the list of groups to be a part of

by Hook It 06/08/13, 06:14 pm

I'm a fan, but I also say yes to my DD for just about everything.

ODP used to be much smaller, numbers are large now, but heck coaching ratios are good and it is a really good workout with lots of touches. So, if you look over the coaches on the site, you see a lot of good ones and some you will have no idea about.

Many theories out there, but one main suggestion.... Car POOL, then who really cares if you only drive to 1-2 practices each season. It no time commitment for you then. You know you DD will love it: time with other girls in the car, soccer, smoothies, soccer, .....

by setplay 06/08/13, 10:19 pm

by JPMoe70 07/08/13, 12:01 am

I felt the time my DD has spent in the ODP program was worth it. Nice to hear different coaches views/pointers/direction/input.

by Mr.KnowItAll 07/08/13, 12:28 am

My DD plays for the Oklahoma ODP program & we love it! We went to College Station in February & she attended the Norman & Alabama camps this summer.

by Guest 07/08/13, 06:12 am

Has anyone received the registration e-mail for the fall season?

by Hook It 07/08/13, 06:35 am

Mr.KnowItAll wrote:My DD plays for the Oklahoma ODP program & we love it! We went to College Station in February & she attended the Norman & Alabama camps this summer.

NIA; 1st post? welcome to the boards.... are you the twin brother of Setplay?

by Hook It 07/08/13, 06:36 am

BUNDESLIGA wrote:Has anyone received the registration e-mail for the fall season?

nope not yet....should be soon.

by DDPlays4Snacks 07/08/13, 04:51 pm

GrandTXSoccer wrote:I honestly don't have a clue, it's been years since my DD went through it but I keep getting asked by friends of mine with younger kids looking to try it for the first time. All I know is years ago it was a pretty cool thing and the coaching was outstanding, however over the last couple of years I've heard that it wasn't worth it and definitely not worth it at the younger ages. I'd heard it's really more about the money and less about truly being a development program.

What's the boards opinion?

Yes, worth it, from touches on the ball, to interacting with players from other teams, to the variety of coaches, well worth it.

by Cmon_Man 07/08/13, 05:19 pm

DDPlays4Snacks wrote:
GrandTXSoccer wrote:I honestly don't have a clue, it's been years since my DD went through it but I keep getting asked by friends of mine with younger kids looking to try it for the first time. All I know is years ago it was a pretty cool thing and the coaching was outstanding, however over the last couple of years I've heard that it wasn't worth it and definitely not worth it at the younger ages. I'd heard it's really more about the money and less about truly being a development program.

What's the boards opinion?

Yes, worth it, from touches on the ball, to interacting with players from other teams, to the variety of coaches, well worth it.

by Mr.KnowItAll 07/08/13, 05:46 pm

Hook It wrote:
Mr.KnowItAll wrote:My DD plays for the Oklahoma ODP program & we love it! We went to College Station in February & she attended the Norman & Alabama camps this summer.

NIA; 1st post? welcome to the boards.... are you the twin brother of Setplay?

Thanks, I don't know setplay but I like his avatar:lol:

by keeperdad2003 08/08/13, 09:55 am

How much time commitment is needed for ODP?
Does it conflict with the club soccer ?

by textigerfan 08/08/13, 11:17 am

I do not think it is a huge time commitment. 10 sessions or so a year, usually Sundays. A short week long camp if selected. That is really it. It can conflict at times with club activities but they understand. Club activities rule over ODP activities.

by MoveYourFeet 08/08/13, 11:40 am

textigerfan wrote:I do not think it is a huge time commitment. 10 sessions or so a year, usually Sundays. A short week long camp if selected. That is really it. It can conflict at times with club activities but they understand. Club activities rule over ODP activities.

Yep. Club takes priority over ODP in NTX. Not so in other states. We were in a tournament in Orlando and playing some team from another state, and I was talking with some of their parents. They were quick to tell me they were without 2 of their best players because they had ODP and did not make the trip (right after they went down 2-0). I was perplexed. What kind of ODP situation takes priority over club? They said it was some ODP friendly games.

ODP in that state (I don't remember which) took priority over club events. They told me that is how it was. They couldn't believe that NTX had club first and ODP second.

by Guest 08/08/13, 11:51 am

MoveYourFeet wrote:
textigerfan wrote:I do not think it is a huge time commitment. 10 sessions or so a year, usually Sundays. A short week long camp if selected. That is really it. It can conflict at times with club activities but they understand. Club activities rule over ODP activities.
Yep. Club takes priority over ODP in NTX. Not so in other states. We were in a tournament in Orlando and playing some team from another state, and I was talking with some of their parents. They were quick to tell me they were without 2 of their best players because they had ODP and did not make the trip (right after they went down 2-0). I was perplexed. What kind of ODP situation takes priority over club? They said it was some ODP friendly games.

ODP in that state (I don't remember which) took priority over club events. They told me that is how it was. They couldn't believe that NTX had club first and ODP second.

such an easy decision. one i pay 2500 dollars for and the other is for touches and fun. pretty easy...

by my2cents 08/08/13, 12:24 pm

silentparent wrote:
MoveYourFeet wrote:
textigerfan wrote:I do not think it is a huge time commitment. 10 sessions or so a year, usually Sundays. A short week long camp if selected. That is really it. It can conflict at times with club activities but they understand. Club activities rule over ODP activities.
Yep. Club takes priority over ODP in NTX. Not so in other states. We were in a tournament in Orlando and playing some team from another state, and I was talking with some of their parents. They were quick to tell me they were without 2 of their best players because they had ODP and did not make the trip (right after they went down 2-0). I was perplexed. What kind of ODP situation takes priority over club? They said it was some ODP friendly games.

ODP in that state (I don't remember which) took priority over club events. They told me that is how it was. They couldn't believe that NTX had club first and ODP second.
such an easy decision. one i pay 2500 dollars for and the other is for touches and fun. pretty easy...

And it is that sentiment that has allowed club to suck the life out of ODP here and replace it with Academy , pre- academy, ENCL and whatever else there is out there now that are profit driven for the clubs.

Believe it or not what drives that situation in other states is that ODP does still attract the top talent and coaches consider it a call up for the player and an honor for the club. Contrast that to NTX where the a big club will not even acknowledge when a player makes the Region III ODP team and is named captain of it.

by MoveYourFeet 08/08/13, 01:24 pm

my2cents wrote:
silentparent wrote:
MoveYourFeet wrote:
textigerfan wrote:I do not think it is a huge time commitment. 10 sessions or so a year, usually Sundays. A short week long camp if selected. That is really it. It can conflict at times with club activities but they understand. Club activities rule over ODP activities.
Yep. Club takes priority over ODP in NTX. Not so in other states. We were in a tournament in Orlando and playing some team from another state, and I was talking with some of their parents. They were quick to tell me they were without 2 of their best players because they had ODP and did not make the trip (right after they went down 2-0). I was perplexed. What kind of ODP situation takes priority over club? They said it was some ODP friendly games.

ODP in that state (I don't remember which) took priority over club events. They told me that is how it was. They couldn't believe that NTX had club first and ODP second.
such an easy decision. one i pay 2500 dollars for and the other is for touches and fun. pretty easy...
And it is that sentiment that has allowed club to suck the life out of ODP here and replace it with Academy , pre- academy, ENCL and whatever else there is out there now that are profit driven for the clubs.

Believe it or not what drives that situation in other states is that ODP does still attract the top talent and coaches consider it a call up for the player and an honor for the club. Contrast that to NTX where the a big club will not even acknowledge when a player makes the Region III ODP team and is named captain of it.

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by Guest 08/08/13, 02:25 pm

my2cents wrote:
silentparent wrote:
MoveYourFeet wrote:
textigerfan wrote:I do not think it is a huge time commitment. 10 sessions or so a year, usually Sundays. A short week long camp if selected. That is really it. It can conflict at times with club activities but they understand. Club activities rule over ODP activities.
Yep. Club takes priority over ODP in NTX. Not so in other states. We were in a tournament in Orlando and playing some team from another state, and I was talking with some of their parents. They were quick to tell me they were without 2 of their best players because they had ODP and did not make the trip (right after they went down 2-0). I was perplexed. What kind of ODP situation takes priority over club? They said it was some ODP friendly games.

ODP in that state (I don't remember which) took priority over club events. They told me that is how it was. They couldn't believe that NTX had club first and ODP second.
such an easy decision. one i pay 2500 dollars for and the other is for touches and fun. pretty easy...
And it is that sentiment that has allowed club to suck the life out of ODP here and replace it with Academy , pre- academy, ENCL and whatever else there is out there now that are profit driven for the clubs.

Believe it or not what drives that situation in other states is that ODP does still attract the top talent and coaches consider it a call up for the player and an honor for the club. Contrast that to NTX where the a big club will not even acknowledge when a player makes the Region III ODP team and is named captain of it.

maybe, but its still an easy call, follow the money...

by Mia Hamster 08/08/13, 04:48 pm

I know some folks in SoCal and ODP is a big deal for their clubs. The clubs brag on how many ODP players they have signed, etc...

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