Germany Brazil Game Today?

I am on communications lock down here at work with the game recording at home when DD called and said I had to look.   Ouch, what is happening here?  Though I am rooting for Germany, expected some thing of a game?   This so doesn't make sense.   If you are going to throw a game, at least pretend to put up some resistance?   Any thoughts out there in N Texas Soccer Land?  Come on, don't be shy with your opinions on this topic 

Wow. Let the rioting begin.

Individually weak players playing as individuals. No Silva in the backline shows who the MVP of that team is, not neymar.

Best line of the day...one announcer asks the other at about the 35 minute mark...what does Brazil do now down 5-0...the answer...they need to make it to the the half and then come back out with 16 and hope no one notices!

It's a team game. When I hear talk about those two teams, I hear, the German team, the German team, the German team. On the other side, I hear the Brazilian stars, the Brazilian stars, the Brazilian stars.

Well, when stars meet teams, I say, "what stars"?

The Brazilians would have been well served to watch the NBA finals. Different sport, same result, for the same reason.

Goals during the '23 minute mark to '29th were some of the most amazing 7 minutes of soccer I may have ever seen. It really did appear as men against boys.

Sure makes the US effort vs Germany seem almost Herculean.

Pale Rider wrote:It's a team game. When I hear talk about those two teams, I hear, the German team, the German team, the German team. On the other side, I hear the Brazilian stars, the Brazilian stars, the Brazilian stars.

Well, when stars meet teams, I say, "what stars"?

The Brazilians would have been well served to watch the NBA finals. Different sport, same result, for the same reason.

Perfect answer!!         

When you hear about soccer stars. You think of Brazil, Portugal and Argintina. Would it not be funny if its the Germans Vs. The Dutch. 2 teams finish for the cup!

Its Me2 wrote:When you hear about soccer stars. You think of Brazil, Portugal and Argintina. Would it not be funny if its the Germans Vs. The Dutch. 2 teams finish for the cup!

So, are you all saying Ann Coulter is right? Bunch of panty waste vodka drinking socialists here? By the way, since her first rant went viral, she wrote a follow up piece. Love the "The only risk of death in a soccer game is when some Third World peasant goes on a murderous rampage after a bad call." http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-07-02.html

So crazy! Not at all what I expected.

As a Brazil fan, I think this is painful in the short term but is the best thing that could've happened to Brazil. If this isn't enough to make them rethink their youth program and take the rose colored glasses off, nothing will. I'd rather see Brazil lose and play the beautiful game vs win and play long ball, thug soccer with a bunch of head down dribbling mixed in.

geno105 wrote:Best line of the day...one announcer asks the other at about the 35 minute mark...what does Brazil do now down 5-0...the answer...they need to make it to the the half and then come back out with 16 and hope no one notices!

That line was tied to my other favorite from Macca. "At least DO something! Go out there and KICK someone!"

Guest wrote:Wow.  Let the rioting begin.

nice of you to sign on as guest and say this. Ignorant post, and reeks of racism. I would say more just heartbreak and disappointment.

Very sad to see a team implode like that. The faces of the fans say it all.

Coach&Ref wrote:

geno105 wrote:Best line of the day...one announcer asks the other at about the 35 minute mark...what does Brazil do now down 5-0...the answer...they need to make it to the the half and then come back out with 16 and hope no one notices!

That line was tied to my other favorite from Macca. "At least DO something! Go out there and KICK someone!"

Luiz tried and couldn't even do that! In one swing missed the ball (which he was trying to hit Mueller with) and barely missed Mueller's knee in his frustrated and pathetic show of leadership.

4-3-3 wrote:I'd rather see Brazil lose and play the beautiful game vs win and play long ball, thug soccer with a bunch of head down dribbling mixed in.

Well, Brazil lost, but the "beautiful game" was being played on the other side of the ball.......................not the Brazilian side.

ItsMeAgain wrote:

4-3-3 wrote:I'd rather see Brazil lose and play the beautiful game vs win and play long Ball, thug soccer with a bunch of head down dribbling mixed in.

Wattacking brazil lost, but the "beautiful game" was being played on the other side of the ball.......................not the Brazil side.

Can't argue with that. Brazil made them look much better than they are, but no doubt germany put on a clinic. Awesome counters, combining through the middle, super smart choices in the attacking third, incredible movement off the ball, all while being organized defensively with a true keeper / sweeper.

Hats off to them. The way Germany played is good for the game, and I'd rather see that than tiki taka any day.

I still think coaching was huge... Brazil coach should've known he didn't have the players to play an open game with Germany.

4-3-3 wrote:

ItsMeAgain wrote:

4-3-3 wrote:I'd rather see Brazil lose and play the beautiful game vs win and play long Ball, thug soccer with a bunch of head down dribbling mixed in.

Well, Brazil lost, but the "beautiful game" was being played on the other side of the ball.......................not the Brazil side.

Can't argue with that. Brazil made them look much better than they are, but no doubt germany put on a clinic. Awesome counters, combining through the middle, super smart choices in the attacking third, incredible movement off the ball, all while being organized defensively with a true keeper / sweeper.

Hats off to them. The way Germany played is good for the game, and I'd rather see that than tiki taka any day.

I still think coaching was huge... Brazil coach should've known he didn't have the players to play an open game with Germany.

Agree 100%

Parents and indeed some coaches, have been littering these boards for years citing Brazilian street soccer and pick-up games as the way to excel in development, not the rigor and structure of programs like Germany, Holland, etc. where repetion, repetition, repetition (see what I did there?) is the key to technical excellence and synergy as a team. South American soccer is all about 'stars' and here in North America, it's the same way across the major sports which is why in the Olympics, Team USA basketball often gets shown up and run close by countries that don't even have semi-professional leagues. Almost everybody wants to be a good player, not a good TEAM player.

In England, they try and coach the flare out of players which is why promising young players at 17-21 become routine, dull and ineffective by 25. Also in England, they ignore the key development years (7-11) that we are lucky in NTX now to have so many quality options with, in favor of constant scrimmaging and drills (even at the academies of some big clubs) which resemble rec practices.

There needs to be a balance as in every area of life between work (technical repetition until consistency, tactical learning until understanding) and play (3v3s, indoor, etc.). If you think just scrimmaging and playing pick-up games will educate or develop consistency as opposed to cement bad habits and teach individualism, then you witnessed yesterday in full effect what that emphasis on 'make a star' mentality results in.

Ronaldo couldn't carry Portugal, Messi has dragged Argentina to where they are almost single-handedly and Neymar did the same for Brazil. Same with Suarez and Uraguay. All exciting players to watch, capable of near magic but reliance on one or two stars as opposed to the team as a whole is a disaster waiting to happen.

Most kids have heard of Ronaldo and Neymar. Before yesterday, how many had heard of Klose? This morning, how many of them will even remember his name?

skulker wrote:

Guest wrote:Wow.  Let the rioting begin.

nice of you to sign on as guest and say this.  Ignorant post, and reeks of racism.  I would say more just heartbreak and disappointment.

Racism. I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Brazil is made up of blacks, whites and every racial combination you can think of. Stereotyping a nation's response (where riots and deaths are fairly commonplace compared to the rest of the world) is not racism. It's a response to what happens more often than not during these sort of occasions.

If he had said, "let the beer drinking commence in Germany after their victory", would that have been racist too? Or simply a stereotype that more often than not, is true?

Preach it Wolfy!

When has Team USA been shown up or even ran close in Basketball? I get you are trying to make a point but that is just not factual...on another note if a team has a coach that has no idea what he is doing and has to play without its two best players this is kinda what you end up with. ..

Yeah I didn't even broach the racism comment. ...even after reading it 4 or 5 times, I couldn't find the "racism"

$occerF@n wrote:When has Team USA been shown up or even ran close in Basketball? I get you are trying to make a point but that is just not factual...on another note if a team has a coach that has no idea what he is doing and has to play without its two best players this is kinda what you end up with. ..

In the last Olympics,

USA 119
Australia 86

USA 109
Argentina 83

USA 107
Spain 100

Those are hardly all-star demolitions of three countries where most of the population would confuse a basketball with a spherically superior pumpkin!

Don't get me wrong, I'm English. We're the masters of inventing sports, exporting them and then getting owned by the countries we 'taught' them to.

I'll give you a pass because you are an Englishman but in basketball winning by 20 points is pretty much demolishing a team...The Spain game was the gold medal game and you would expect it to be a little closer considering the team consisted of several NBA players...The 2012 team had an average margin of victory of almost 40 points and was the second highest scoring Olympic team ever (yes I Googled it haha)