Club Player Pass Opinion

fatherofoneplayer wrote:This topic has been discussed ad nauseam here:

http://www.txsoccer.net/t22777-player-pass-should-be-revoked

But in response to your post, it is being abused and will continue to be abused. By and large the vast majority of parents/players/coaches and clubs have no problem with CPP. Some would like you to think the majority is against it but the reality is only those directly and negatively affected have a problem with CPP. Personally, I could care less.

soccer chuck wrote:

fatherofoneplayer wrote:This topic has been discussed ad nauseam here:

http://www.txsoccer.net/t22777-player-pass-should-be-revoked

But in response to your post, it is being abused and will continue to be abused. By and large the vast majority of parents/players/coaches and clubs have no problem with CPP. Some would like you to think the majority is against it but the reality is only those directly and negatively affected have a problem with CPP. Personally, I could care less.

Could you please provide your support for the above statement?

Certainly. While I have not taken a complete polling of all parents of DD's that play LHGCL, PPL or APL, there is approximately 690 players which I have concluded involves roughly 1300 mothers/fathers. In the thread above and others relating to CPP there is 10-15 posters that come out against CPP.

Is that for CPP utilized to move players up, move ringers down, or both?

Most of the parents I have spoken to are opposed to the utilization of CPP to bring down ringers in order to win games, and feel that is a violation of the spirit of CPP.  Most of the posters on the above thread are also opposed.  And yet neither is the consensus that you apparently have.

Oh - and never directly affected, never negatively affected, and completely opposed to it's use in the current form.

setrimacoky wrote: The league is so dysfunctional right now due to CPP, dual rostering and club byes.

Gunner9 wrote:

setrimacoky wrote: The league is so dysfunctional right now due to CPP, dual rostering and club byes.  

Not sure what you don't like about the club bye system.  A quick check of a few teams that took advantage this year shows some very promising results:

LP Keegan 03       0 wins   6 losses   4 GF   25 GA
DT White 02         0 wins   6 losses   0 GF   32 GA
FCD 99 Black        0 wins   9 losses   4 GF   36 GA

Who says you should earn your way in?

Lefty wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:

setrimacoky wrote: The league is so dysfunctional right now due to CPP, dual rostering and club byes.  

Not sure what you don't like about the club bye system.  A quick check of a few teams that took advantage this year shows some very promising results:

LP Keegan 03       0 wins   6 losses   4 GF   25 GA
DT White 02         0 wins   6 losses   0 GF   32 GA
FCD 99 Black        0 wins   9 losses   4 GF   36 GA

Who says you should earn your way in?

Very promising results for the clubs as each one of those teams generate as much revenue as a 1st place D1 team.

Lefty wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:

setrimacoky wrote: The league is so dysfunctional right now due to CPP, dual rostering and club byes.  

Not sure what you don't like about the club bye system.  A quick check of a few teams that took advantage this year shows some very promising results:

LP Keegan 03       0 wins   6 losses   4 GF   25 GA
DT White 02         0 wins   6 losses   0 GF   32 GA
FCD 99 Black        0 wins   9 losses   4 GF   36 GA

Who says you should earn your way in?

Very promising results for the clubs as each one of those teams generate as much revenue as a 1st place D1 team.

bwgophers wrote:

Lefty wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:

setrimacoky wrote: The league is so dysfunctional right now due to CPP, dual rostering and club byes.  

Not sure what you don't like about the club bye system.  A quick check of a few teams that took advantage this year shows some very promising results:

LP Keegan 03       0 wins   6 losses   4 GF   25 GA
DT White 02         0 wins   6 losses   0 GF   32 GA
FCD 99 Black        0 wins   9 losses   4 GF   36 GA

Who says you should earn your way in?

Very promising results for the clubs as each one of those teams generate as much revenue as a 1st place D1 team.

Who is the small club or independent team that got screwed over in each of those cases?

setrimacoky wrote:CPP is a crock. If you have injury issues, look for an unrostered player. The league is so dysfunctional right now due to CPP, dual rostering and club byes. A main focus of a team is to continuously improve and hopefully get to the next division. But, these three league policies are blatant in favoring essentially 5 clubs in the metroplex, and making smaller clubs and independent teams play under an inherently different and less forgiving set of rules. Basically, getting to the next division for smaller clubs is more difficult than the larger clubs because of these unfair rules. No amount of debate can change that fact. If you approximate the number of girls in smaller clubs vs. larger clubs for 01's in all 3 divisions in LH, there are actually about the same number of girls in the smaller or independent clubs as are in the big clubs. So the rule is harsher on approximately 1/2 the girls in the league (actually more than that because players on the teams that abuse CPP are in turn mistreated - the only girls it help is the girls that get an opportunity to play up). In addition, the larger clubs are more heavily represented in D1 and D2 and weakly represented in D3. This is a direct result of the 1. CPP, 2. dual rostering and 3. club byes.....the trifecta of competitive hindrance.