Region III Championships

Was TSN playing in this?

Zizou wrote:So, message to the parents in this situation. Your time, money, and DD detication to this team and club is not worth an appeal because the coach could be suspended. The money loss by the parents of the team alone at least adds up to one year of fees lost. Very Interesting to say the least. Pfloyd, do you have any feedback on this?

It wasn't just about the short allowable time given to make an appeal nor the $300 cash that was needed to come up with on the spot nor the mere fact that the coach would be suspended if appeal was lost, it was more because we were told (I believe by the NTX rep) that we absolutely would not win our appeal. Not very favorable odds. Under that circumstance, no one can fault the Coach.

soccerjack wrote:Was TSN playing in this?  

Hahaha. I guess you didn't get the newsflash my big earred brother. Lol

Foxysoccermom wrote:Thanks for the in depth analysis pfloyd. Good stuff...but foxy has to ask herself...why did Lfc need a kid from ok that can't practice with the team, to help represent Tx?  Did the coach say "wish you were here" when she really wasn't?  Was he just "learning to fly"?

Good luck to you next year and see you on the dark side of the moon....shine on you crazy diamond.

Regards Foxy.

Need? You need to go ask somebody...or maybe go check out your local DA to get an answer.

OLJW wrote:Section 5. It shall be the responsibility of the appropriate official designated by each entering State Association to certify the eligibility of competing teams and to provide the teams with a copy of this policy.

Somebody didn't do their job.

The girls had to wear shirts out there that said "167 Times...the number of times a team from NTX has won at the regionals". That apparently did not provide our rep the platform, or whatever else may have been lacking, to go hard to bat for us.

KnKsDad wrote:And you know it's hate when those like KeeperCommander, and others, want to toss out phrases like "lying, cheating roster". What kind of BS talk is that? Y'all would be making the same case if your DD and team were involved in the same situation. As  far as lying and cheating, are you serious? This team didn't need to do any of that to win.  And deep down inside you know that. It was the same core group of girls on this team that kicked your DD's, and mines previously, arse over the past 3+ years that went out to Region 3, so lie and cheat?  That implies malicious intent which I for one take exception to. Call us stupid, maybe to a certain minor extent we were, but don't call us cheaters, because y'all know what's up.

Well you can call it anyway you would like. Not my place to say what the real intent was or wasn't. With all the crying going on about this now you would think you got robbed when it was your team to blame per the challenge.

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pfloyd wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:
With all the crying going on about this now you would think you got robbed when it was your team to blame per the challenge.

The word challenge does not exist it the rule book it is called the protest. The protest rules are painfully clear in the rules and the governing body, the people that makes us abide by the rules, broke their own rule to make this ruling. Legally, by rule, they could not consider the protest, yet they did. There is your robbery!!!

LFC was held deeply accountable by a series of unintentional mistakes by the governing body who wants to keep the game pure. Who holds them accountable for their cheating of the rules. Once again I find it stunning that people are not outraged by this.

I think cheating dirt bag is in the rule book. It is listed right under dope dealing dirt bag. You guys sure do hire some real winners down there in Liverpoolville.
Legally by rule you guys are morons for not "protesting" the ruling given by the governing body. How can one tell you that you would lose when they had not heard your argument?

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pfloyd wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote: How can one tell you that you would lose when they had not heard your argument?

The words from NTX rep: Yhe same people who made the original ruling that hear the appeal and they will not admit they were wrong.. The only thing that will happen is they will have $300 to spend at the bar that night and the appeal would be denied.

By the way we could not protest the ruling we could appeal the ruling.

Sorry boss I don't know words like protest, appeal or whatever. We don't have a dirtbag coach that cheats. But you go ahead with your bad self. Here are some other words that Liverpool should know. Arrested, bail hearing, warrant, Miranda, suspended or maybe the phrase intent to distribute. Giddy up.

Okay, it's time to move on. No need to make this worse than it already is.

Zizou wrote:Okay, it's time to move on. No need to make this worse than it already is.

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Everyone put down the Scotch and step away from the keyboard... or is it pour yourself a Scotch and step away from the keyboard... I always get those mixed up...

pfloyd wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Sorry boss I don't know words like protest, appeal or whatever.  

Then why are you involved in a socially friendly rules discussion? My discussion is purely based on the rules and facts not emotion and hate.

Then lets do that. You can't come on a forum board and talk about a topic such as this and not at least be able to comprehend the other side of the story. Whether you want to believe or deny that other side is what matters. Like I said before, should they have followed their protest rules? Yes, but you know what? It doesn't make the offense any different. A rule was still broken in my opinion. You will say that a rule was not broken in your opinion. Rules committee saw it differently. Contrary to what you think there is not a specific rule that deals with this exact situation. Not exactly, it has to involve several different rules combined. So the committee had to interpret the meaning and apply a ruling. Again you say they got it wrong. That is your subjective opinion. Perhaps how you read and interpret the rules should not be subjective but objective. I have news for you. You could have received a written letter stating your roster was legal and this particular committee could have still over-ridden that decision. Why? Power.
Oh and I do not have any malice or hate towards Liverpool. Just blow yards that come on a forum and refuse to believe there are two sides to a coin, and cry when it's flipped and lose.

KeeperCommander wrote:

pfloyd wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Sorry boss I don't know words like protest, appeal or whatever.  

Then why are you involved in a socially friendly rules discussion? My discussion is purely based on the rules and facts not emotion and hate.

Then lets do that. You can't come on a forum board and talk about a topic such as this and not at least be able to comprehend the other side of the story. Whether you want to believe or deny that other side is what matters. Like I said before, should they have followed their protest rules? Yes, but you know what? It doesn't make the offense any different. A rule was still broken in my opinion. You will say that a rule was not broken in your opinion. Rules committee saw it differently. Contrary to what you think there is not a specific rule that deals with this exact situation. Not exactly, it has to involve several different rules combined. So the committee had to interpret the meaning and apply a ruling. Again you say they got it wrong. That is your subjective opinion. Perhaps how you read and interpret the rules should not be subjective but objective. I have news for you. You could have received a written letter stating your roster was legal and this particular committee could have still over-ridden that decision. Why? Power.
Oh and I do not have any malice or hate towards Liverpool. Just blow yards that come on a forum and refuse to believe there are two sides to a coin, and cry when it's flipped and lose.

I'll have what you're havin'...

TwistAndShout wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

pfloyd wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Sorry boss I don't know words like protest, appeal or whatever.  

Then why are you involved in a socially friendly rules discussion? My discussion is purely based on the rules and facts not emotion and hate.

Then lets do that. You can't come on a forum board and talk about a topic such as this and not at least be able to comprehend the other side of the story. Whether you want to believe or deny that other side is what matters. Like I said before, should they have followed their protest rules? Yes, but you know what? It doesn't make the offense any different. A rule was still broken in my opinion. You will say that a rule was not broken in your opinion. Rules committee saw it differently. Contrary to what you think there is not a specific rule that deals with this exact situation. Not exactly, it has to involve several different rules combined. So the committee had to interpret the meaning and apply a ruling. Again you say they got it wrong. That is your subjective opinion. Perhaps how you read and interpret the rules should not be subjective but objective. I have news for you. You could have received a written letter stating your roster was legal and this particular committee could have still over-ridden that decision. Why? Power.
Oh and I do not have any malice or hate towards Liverpool. Just blow yards that come on a forum and refuse to believe there are two sides to a coin, and cry when it's flipped and lose.

I'll have what you're havin'...  

Make it two!