Texas Showcase

For someone that is as far removed as you claim, you sure do know every possible detail. Did you hear about from your cousins brothers sisters uncle at 31 Flavors last night?

My three youngest kids (the 'youngest' is now 25) all attended ESD and I have a grandson at the school so I've had a 'connection' for several years. That is my interest in the school and in it's girl's sports programs.

tornado11, the more you post, the more ignorant you make yourself look. You have none of the facts right. Those girls played in every single game, they never sat out an entire game. They got the exact same amount of time as everyone on the team except for maybe one or two that are injured. So what, exactly are you referring to as being "punished". Every girl on that team sat a little in each game, so I guess they were all punished. Maybe you should verify your facts before you get on here and start running coaches and clubs into the ground. Why do you care about this event so much, ECNL doesn't even matter remember, just go to an ID camp and do us all a favor and stop talking! What do the "real parents" of these girls think of what you're posting on their behalf. We're sorry, next time we start making the schedules we'll be sure and ask the 2 ESD girls if it works for them with all their high school games, social events and debutante balls....

Both girls normally start. The fact that they didn't start because of 'punishment' for having the nerve to play in a State Championship Game for their school instead of some make up ECNL game strikes me as being wrong. several of you seem to disagree. That is what chat boards are for. I will leave the personal attacks to you and others.

You'll leave the personal attacks to me and others??!?!?! You called our club and coaches "morons" numerous times ... isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

tornado11 wrote:Both girls normally start. The fact that they didn't start because of 'punishment' for having the nerve to play in a State Championship Game for their school instead of some make up ECNL game strikes me as being wrong. several of you seem to disagree. That is what chat boards are for. I will leave the personal attacks to you and others.

You've told a couple of different stories here.  The one above, and your first post in this thread: "Pity that the coaches of Solar Chelsea '98 are morons....they sat two starters for having the nerve to play for their school last weekend (Feb 14th/15th) in the SPC Title Game in Houston instead of participating in some meaningless ECNL make up game...thus denying these two of a chance to 'showcase' their talents in front of college coaches...."

It doesn't appear they were denied the chance to 'showcase' their talents in front of college coaches at all.  

In my experience, it's very common for a player to miss some playing time for missing a game and/or practices.  On my dd's team, that was the rule, and the players that gave up other activities (proms, high school games, etc.) to play the games thought it was a fair tradeoff for the players that elected to do something else on game day.

In fact, usually the players that missed games understood that there was a choice to be made, and consequences for their choices.  No big deal.

So, you dont have a child that plays soccer anymore and you still post? Since you have given so much detail I am sure the parents of those two girls appreciate your lobbying on their behalf. I am sure the moron of a coach appreciates it too.

Why do so many of you appear unable to post without resorting to personal attacks..?

tornado11 wrote:Why do so many of you appear unable to post without resorting to personal attacks..?

Wasn't the first "personal attack" in this thread your post calling the Solar coaches "morons?"

Don't believe he/they post on these boards.

tornado11 wrote:Don't believe  he/they post on these boards.

So personal attacks are OK under certain conditions, as long as they aren't directed at you.

Do you really find it surprising to get called out when you post a false claim about moron coaches not allowing players to showcase their talent at the worthless ECNL showcase, then later post on the same thread that they only missed starting the game?

tornado11 wrote:Both girls normally start. The fact that they didn't start because of 'punishment' for having the nerve to play in a State Championship Game for their school instead of some make up ECNL game strikes me as being wrong. several of you seem to disagree. That is what chat boards are for. I will leave the personal attacks to you and others.

So the issue is really that these two did not start the game? But they did play? They did get a chance to showcase?

I'm sorry, but this sounds very much like typical private school entitlement mentality. The reality is that everybody can't have everything they want, even if it doesn't sound fair. It's a good lesson for the kids. They chose to play in the SPC Championship, over an ECNL make-up game. Because of that, they did not start the following ECNL game. Lesson learned. Congrats to them on the SPC title, they still got to get an opportunity to showcase for any coaches at the ECNL event.

My kid had the same things happen, and guess what? She still has offers on the table for college soccer next year. It's not the end of the world. As others have said, as long as the coach was clear on what would happen, then there should not be an issue.

jsullivan81 wrote:So, you dont have a child that plays soccer anymore and you still post? Since you have given so much detail I am sure the parents of those two girls appreciate your lobbying on their behalf. I am sure the moron of a coach appreciates it too.

Folks, don't fall for that 'my child doesn't play' stuff from Tornado11.

I have been informed by one of the Solar parents that Tornado11's dd is indeed a Solar 98 ECNL player and also an ESD student-athlete.  The girl was dual rostered last year U15 but did not play ECNL (I think that explains Tornados11 detest for ECNL then), but since then has been a regular member of Solar U16 ECNL due to injuries on many core Solar ECNL players (hence the missed opportunity to "Showcase" as claimed by Tornado11).

Sad part is, almost everyone connected with Solar ECNL U16 knows what is going on, including the "Moron coach MT".   Makes for a wonderful Spring Season.

Pele98 wrote:

jsullivan81 wrote:So, you dont have a child that plays soccer anymore and you still post? Since you have given so much detail I am sure the parents of those two girls appreciate your lobbying on their behalf. I am sure the moron of a coach appreciates it too.

Folks, don't fall for that 'my child doesn't play' stuff from Tornado11.

I have been informed by one of the Solar parents that Tornado11's dd is indeed a Solar 98 ECNL player and also an ESD student-athlete.  The girl was dual rostered last year U15 but did not play ECNL (I think that explains Tornados11 detest for ECNL then), but since then has been a regular member of Solar U16 ECNL due to injuries on many core Solar ECNL players (hence the missed opportunity to "Showcase" as claimed by Tornado11).

Sad part is, almost everyone connected with Solar ECNL U16 knows what is going on, including the "Moron coach MT".   Makes for a wonderful Spring Season.

Wait.. stop the presses. Are you really implying that someone on here was not forthcoming with why they have an interest in something. Shocking!

The bad thing is, the girl(s) in question will possibly be see less playing time now because of Tornado. Way to go.

Didn't Tornado post that ESD hadn't been to the championship game in 14 years? Why would the coach worry about that date for a makeup? Chances were great that it would not be a problem. I do find it funny that Tornado thinks his kid gets superior coaching when it only takes 17 games to win a state championship in that league. It sure sounds like the ECNL should fold against that type of competition. Why would anyone play in the farce that is ECNL?

I do have a question about them not starting. Did the girls that started ahead of them play terrible?

jsullivan81 wrote:

Pele98 wrote:

jsullivan81 wrote:So, you dont have a child that plays soccer anymore and you still post? Since you have given so much detail I am sure the parents of those two girls appreciate your lobbying on their behalf. I am sure the moron of a coach appreciates it too.

Folks, don't fall for that 'my child doesn't play' stuff from Tornado11.

I have been informed by one of the Solar parents that Tornado11's dd is indeed a Solar 98 ECNL player and also an ESD student-athlete.  The girl was dual rostered last year U15 but did not play ECNL (I think that explains Tornados11 detest for ECNL then), but since then has been a regular member of Solar U16 ECNL due to injuries on many core Solar ECNL players (hence the missed opportunity to "Showcase" as claimed by Tornado11).

Sad part is, almost everyone connected with Solar ECNL U16 knows what is going on, including the "Moron coach MT".   Makes for a wonderful Spring Season.

Wait.. stop the presses. Are you really implying that someone on here was not forthcoming with why they have an interest in something. Shocking!

The bad thing is, the girl(s) in question will possibly be see less playing time now because of Tornado. Way to go.

That can't be the case.  Tornado11's dd wouldn't play ECNL, it would just be a waste of her time.  She'd simply show up at North Carolina's camp and claim her spot on that team.  It's obvious that's by far the best way to get recruited.

Pele98 wrote:

jsullivan81 wrote:So, you dont have a child that plays soccer anymore and you still post? Since you have given so much detail I am sure the parents of those two girls appreciate your lobbying on their behalf. I am sure the moron of a coach appreciates it too.

Folks, don't fall for that 'my child doesn't play' stuff from Tornado11.

I have been informed by one of the Solar parents that Tornado11's dd is indeed a Solar 98 ECNL player and also an ESD student-athlete.  The girl was dual rostered last year U15 but did not play ECNL (I think that explains Tornados11 detest for ECNL then), but since then has been a regular member of Solar U16 ECNL due to injuries on many core Solar ECNL players (hence the missed opportunity to "Showcase" as claimed by Tornado11).

Sad part is, almost everyone connected with Solar ECNL U16 knows what is going on, including the "Moron coach MT".   Makes for a wonderful Spring Season.

Solar U16 has not received this much attention in years. I guess everyone was right that the Pulpanek girls would make a big impression after all.

tornado11 wrote:Why do so many of you appear unable to post without resorting to personal attacks..?

Wow. Tornado is an apt username. I don't have a problem with coaches being morons; it is a fact that they're all morons when they sit your kid. However, there is hope: I have found those same coaches' intelligence level proportionally increases with your kid's playing time in won matches.

Some valuable lessons I relearned today:
1. Soccer is a very small community; somebody knows you.
2. It's best not to go to a computer when you are aggravated.
3. Forum folks pay attention and remember, especially when you are talking about their DD's team.
4. If you don't want none, don't give none.
5. You can't screw with Solar parents. Ever.

I hope those same moronic coaches remember our DD's are usually better kids than we act as parents sometimes.

I apologize in advance for when I forget and violate lessons relearned today.

I don't get on here very often. I can certainly tell you however that as the parent of a 99, this rule is very clearly understood. ECNL comes first above all.

DDdad wrote:I have not seen her play in person, but I have heard great things about her. I'm a little surprised by the stats that she is throwing up. Not that stats ever tell the whole story but IMO, they are not "dominating" numbers but very good. Now she could be triple teamed all day and her team is winning but I am a bit surprised. I'm also a little surprised she is not playing up. As has been previously discussed MH from here is playing up and continues to excel and develop with bigger and tougher competition. It seems like at least in NT, many of the truly exceptional difference makers play up. I'm not necessarily an advocate for that but it is the landscape here. There may be a great reason why she does not.

Catarina doesn't play up because the team above her is the number 1 team in the country in the 16 age group and doesn't need her. I will add that she is technically playing up due to her post August 1999 birthday (she should be playing U14) and she did play up with the Cal South 98 ODP team at the recent ODP national championships where Cal South swept all 4 titles. She is an extremely talented player with high end ball skills. She didn't play very much at the National championships but this is due to the fact that my kid's 98 ODP team is filled with national pool players and could beat most D1 teams and my daughter (who is a defender) thinks that she is the real deal. As a matter of fact when comparing her and MH (my daughter played against her at the Nike Manchester cup 2 years ago) she says that Catarina is MORE skilled she just doesn't have MH's speed.

As I said, there had to be great reasons and I'd consider those great reasons. Thanks for the insight. They are both special players.