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Post by Guest 03/02/15, 07:27 am

Now this would be interesting....

http://www.socceramerica.com/article/62492/women-aim-not-to-get-run-over.html

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Post by Zizou 03/02/15, 07:35 am

That's all great, but that will not solve the greater developement issues in youth women soccer players. These programs won't even put a dent nor would they influence the volume of women players in the us today. You are still only looking at the chosen few.

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Post by Zizou 03/02/15, 07:38 am

The solution might be that these academies for women be region based and able to train and evaluate about 100 girls per region. 400 plus girls within the same system is far better than maybe 100

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Post by go99 03/02/15, 09:43 am

Would love to see a girls DA. It makes no sense that US soccer has all the effort in boys with the DA when it's the girls who have a better shot a winning
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Post by Guest 03/02/15, 10:14 am

At least they are acknowledging something needs to be done. That's huge!

Residency? Hard to see it having much impact. Bradenton wasn't exactly a factory turning out world class players.

Girls DA? Now that has real promise, especially if they can align girls DA programs with MLS clubs AND address costs. Boys DA programs can get the axe, so it will be interesting to see how they'd manage quality in a girls DA.

Hate to continue beating the same drum, but I didn't see any mention concerning the costs of youth soccer at the top level in the u.s. If they don't address that, it's all for naught. We'll end up marginally better, but we're still just training the best of the upper middle class kids.

Soccer is not a sport for mostly wealthy players in any nation that has caught and/or passed the U.S.

If it ends up as more alphabet soup and soccer tourism for the well-heeled, don't count on being on par with the PSGs and Bayerns of the world for much longer.

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Post by Guest 03/02/15, 10:19 am

Correct me if I am wrong as my boy is still many many years away from DA age.. but most of the boys DA programs are free of cost. DA Academy being U15 and up.... I believe Andromedas pre and DA are free of cost... of course we can assume that the girls and the rest of the boys teams are covering the cost of these free academies... so what happens when you add a girls side to this...

the cost for the rest really goes up.. but i guess it doesnt really matter in NTX since everyone seems to just keep cutting checks... they will then be able to just pick those they really want, and free to boot.

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Post by go99 03/02/15, 10:20 am

Son is in the DA. And to be fair the DA itself is fairly low cost. There is no league fee for the club. However depending on the club what they charge you is a different story. Solar fee was more than CL. Andromeda is free in DA but not in CL. But you are correct cost needs to come down and yes boys programs can get the axe although I don't think enough do and not for the right reason.
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Post by go99 03/02/15, 10:23 am

Borussia wrote:Correct me if I am wrong as my boy is still many many years away from DA age.. but most of the boys DA programs are free of cost.  DA Academy being U15 and up....  I believe Andromedas pre and DA are free of cost... of course we can assume that the girls and the rest of the boys teams are covering the cost of these free academies... so what happens when you add a girls side to this...

the cost for the rest really goes up.. but i guess it doesnt really matter in NTX since everyone seems to just keep cutting checks... they will then be able to just pick those they really want, and free to boot.

DA is U13/14, U15/16. and U17/18 and the league itse;f is free however many of the clubs do charge. FCD and andro are free, texans and solar charge with solar being the most expensive. Also hear a rumor that DA will be dropping to U12 so if it does it would go to the girls toO I assume
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Post by Guest 03/02/15, 10:29 am

So DA dropping to U12...

US Soccer trying to implement mandatory small sided until U13

AND changing the age groupings from soccer year of Aug-July to Jan-Dec.

Looks to be an interesting time in US Youth Soccer.... stands to be a lot of money made either way by the clubs... haha

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Post by boilerjoe_96 03/02/15, 10:55 am

Borussia wrote:So DA dropping to U12...

US Soccer trying to implement mandatory small sided until U13

AND changing the age groupings from soccer year of Aug-July to Jan-Dec.

Looks to be an interesting time in US Youth Soccer.... stands to be a lot of money made either way by the clubs... haha

Changing age groupings? That would blow up about every team in every age group wouldn't it? The chaos that would follow would be crazy!
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Post by Guest 03/02/15, 11:00 am

Yes it would but would then mirror what the rest of the world does and what US soccer does with their Youth National teams and ODP groupings.

Imagine all those stud august birthdays having to now vie against a January birthday... Heaven forbid. Haha

It happens every year already in ODP and I believe the DA Academies already.

Mine just so happen to be January and March babies... So I say bring it on! Haha

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Post by go99 03/02/15, 11:04 am

I have heard of the changes rumor which I don't buy. They lack the power, reach, and will to pull it off. I think what you may be hearing is a mix of rumors. I think DA may drop to U11/12 and implement it's changes within it's own structure not outside of it. DA is already by birthyear they only have to bring in the new age group with the smaller sides. The rumored changes will have very little impact on the fast majority of teams
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Post by Guest 03/02/15, 11:08 am

I'm a glass half full kind of guy... I say shoot for the moon US Soccer.

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Post by go99 03/02/15, 11:14 am

so am I but I have already seen USSF bend to the will of parents and clubs. That kind of flexibility shows a lack of backbone
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Post by Zizou 03/02/15, 11:45 am

No one has addresses where the money will come from. We know in NTX that the girls support the boys program's financially, but to pay for girls and boys DA, where the money going to come from?

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Post by Guest 03/02/15, 11:58 am

Bigger checks from the non DA boys and girls.

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Post by Guest 03/02/15, 01:09 pm

Zizou wrote:No one has addresses where the money will come from. We know in NTX that the girls support the boys program's financially, but to pay for girls and boys DA, where the money going to come from?

That's why I was saying a girls DA should align with MLS clubs....hopefully then they'll have a structure whereby ussf could help subsidize the program. Maybe throw in usl pro and nwsl franchises. The money has to be there or else all these foreign clubs wouldn't be making plans to come here and tap into the american parent wallets.

If a girls DA wont be subsidized or aligned with pro organizations there is no reason for it to exist given ecnl is already here...I doubt us club soccer would lose a marketing contest with ussf.

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Post by go99 03/02/15, 01:24 pm

US Club would definitely lose. Just ask the Pre academy league that became the B squad of the DA once it swooped into texas. Or the joke that ODP has become.

Maybe some of the money can come from the profits of these Non profit clubs?
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Post by Zizou 03/02/15, 01:28 pm

I believe I made the same suggestion in a past post. Would you allign the DA with FCD?

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Post by Zizou 03/02/15, 01:30 pm

Better question , who would you allign the DA with?

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Post by go99 03/02/15, 01:50 pm

No you would not align the DA for girls with FCD. You find the clubs that have the plan, resources and willingness to commit to your plan of developing the womans game. I wouldn't even guarantee that FCD would be allowed in.
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Post by Guest 03/02/15, 01:56 pm

go99 wrote:US Club would definitely lose.  Just ask the Pre academy league that became the B squad of the DA once it swooped into texas.  Or the joke that ODP has become.

Maybe some of the money can come from the profits of these Non profit clubs?

Us club on boys side is a mouse...on girls side they are the heavyweight. Regarding Odp losing strength...that's because of us club's strength with id2/pdp/ecnl beating out usys in markets where odp had allowed politics to take over...in areas like socal, odp is still very strong...ussf had nothing to do with that. Only way a girls DA could get off the ground is if they offer something better than what us club is already doing and convert the top few ecnl clubs, or they can out market them. The latter is not gonna happen.

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Post by Zizou 03/02/15, 01:57 pm

Sting?

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Post by Guest 03/02/15, 02:05 pm

go99 wrote:No you would not align the DA for girls with FCD.  You find the clubs that have the plan, resources and willingness to commit to your plan of developing the womans game.  I wouldn't even guarantee that FCD would be allowed in.

IMO every mls franchise with a boys DA should have a girls DA. There should be no markets strong enough to support a MLS or NWSL franchise that don't have a DA. After those are slotted then you selectively look around at the quality remaining clubs and award enough to keep regional costs under control. 80+ teams is clearly too many....20 wouldn't be enough.

We need the best players and coaches to get in line under a much smaller # of big tents...and the better a player becomes the less they should pay...which is a 180 to what we have now.

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