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Post by intrinsic 01/06/15, 08:08 pm

bwgophers wrote:
Tiki-taka wrote:
donovansucks wrote:So will the new D1 and D2 look like this -

All 9 existing D1 teams plus Sting Angell, Sting Gray, FWFC and D'Feeters?

D2 will be Dallas Kicks Gold, Texans Red North, Solar White, LP Rush, Lightening, Sting Central plus top 7 teams from D3?  

Cosmos, Andro Red and Texans Red all re-qualifying?

Wouldn't it be 15 teams in D1 and 15 in D2?  so D1 would be (?):


  1. DALLAS KICKS
  2. DALLAS TEXANS
  3. SOLAR CHELSEA 01G RED
  4. TEXAS SPIRIT North
  5. FC DALLAS YOUTH 0
  6. DALLAS TEXANS
  7. DALLAS TEXANS
  8. STING 01G DONOVAN (FKA STING 0
  9. ANDROMEDA FC01G - PL
  10. STING NORTH 01G ANGELL
  11. STING EAST 01G GRAY
  12. FORT WORTH FC 01G BLACK
  13. DALLAS KICKS Gold
  14. D'FEETERS
  15. DALLAS TEXANS


What part of the statement on the LHGCL web site are you basing that off of?

The Q&A suggests that they will add 1 or 2 teams (that are no longer mathematically "alive" for promotion) to make the numbers work, so that the teams will play each other once. I think 15 in each Division is a pretty good guess. But I am just guessing also.

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Post by Guest 01/06/15, 08:49 pm

intrinsic wrote:
bwgophers wrote:
Tiki-taka wrote:
donovansucks wrote:So will the new D1 and D2 look like this -

All 9 existing D1 teams plus Sting Angell, Sting Gray, FWFC and D'Feeters?

D2 will be Dallas Kicks Gold, Texans Red North, Solar White, LP Rush, Lightening, Sting Central plus top 7 teams from D3?  

Cosmos, Andro Red and Texans Red all re-qualifying?

Wouldn't it be 15 teams in D1 and 15 in D2?  so D1 would be (?):


  1. DALLAS KICKS
  2. DALLAS TEXANS
  3. SOLAR CHELSEA 01G RED
  4. TEXAS SPIRIT North
  5. FC DALLAS YOUTH 0
  6. DALLAS TEXANS
  7. DALLAS TEXANS
  8. STING 01G DONOVAN (FKA STING 0
  9. ANDROMEDA FC01G - PL
  10. STING NORTH 01G ANGELL
  11. STING EAST 01G GRAY
  12. FORT WORTH FC 01G BLACK
  13. DALLAS KICKS Gold
  14. D'FEETERS
  15. DALLAS TEXANS


What part of the statement on the LHGCL web site are you basing that off of?

The Q&A suggests that they will add 1 or 2 teams (that are no longer mathematically "alive" for promotion) to make the numbers work, so that the teams will play each other once. I think 15 in each Division is a pretty good guess. But I am just guessing also.

You could be right, but the part that you put into parenthesis is not included in the statement, and if true, would really open LH up to significant criticism because now what criteria are they using to determine which teams are the final teams in D1?

...but then again, LH has made it a habit in the past couple of years of doing things that I thought or predicted would never happen so it probably means that they will split D1/D2 50/50. jocolor

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Post by intrinsic 01/06/15, 10:29 pm

I think the part in parentheses really is in the statement, but not in an obvious way. It says "this meant adding 1-2 teams to achieve that goal". What else could "adding" mean here? I don't think it is referring to adding teams that still would have a mathematical chance for promotion; otherwise, they would not have needed to add statement #2. It took me reading this a few times (or more...) to reach this conclusion. We'll find out soon I suppose.

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Post by Guest 01/06/15, 11:17 pm

intrinsic wrote:I think the part in parentheses really is in the statement, but not in an obvious way. It says "this meant adding 1-2 teams to achieve that goal".  What else could "adding" mean here? I don't think it is referring to adding teams that still would have a mathematical chance for promotion; otherwise, they would not have needed to add statement #2.  It took me reading this a few times (or more...) to reach this conclusion. We'll find out soon I suppose.

If you are correct, I predict it will be "get ya popcorn" ready time on here... Far more so that it was today... Twisted Evil

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Post by KeeperSweeper 02/06/15, 12:15 pm

Brackets are posted, is Andro Blue in or out?
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Post by Tiki-taka 02/06/15, 12:33 pm

DI 2015-16

  1. Dallas Kicks
  2. Dallas Texans
  3. Solar Chelsea
  4. Texas Spirit
  5. FC Dallas
  6. Dallas Texans FTW
  7. Dallas Texans White
  8. Sting 01G Donovan
  9. Andromeda FC
  10. Sting North
  11. Sting East
  12. Fort Worth FC Black
  13. Dallas Kicks
  14. D'Feeters Diamonds
  15. Dallas Texans
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Post by justpeachy 02/06/15, 12:35 pm

Good Lord.

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Post by Tiki-taka 02/06/15, 12:36 pm

D2 2015-2016

  1. Solar Chelsea White
  2. Liverpool FC America
  3. Texas Lightning
  4. Sting Central
  5. FC Dallas Youth
  6. Jazz 01
  7. Ayses east
  8. Texas Redstar
  9. Frisco Fusion
  10. Aztecs
  11. Andromeda (Blue)


3 Spots open for QT


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Post by defender1 02/06/15, 12:43 pm

Andro Blue is in.

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Post by donovansucks 02/06/15, 01:01 pm

So did they or didn't they use the "mathematical" approach to this? It appears they did not. Is there any rationale for any of this? Is Andro Blue in for sure? So confusing. BWG, please help us!
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Post by Guest 02/06/15, 01:19 pm

Andromeda blue has to go to QT.

Last 4 have to re-qualify.

Andromeda QT 11
Dallas Cosmos QT 12
Andromeda FC QT 13
Dallas Texans QT 14

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Post by defender1 02/06/15, 01:28 pm

If anyone has a question about Andro Blue why don't you contact the coach and ask him yourself.

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Post by Guest 02/06/15, 01:43 pm

donovansucks wrote:So did they or didn't they use the "mathematical" approach to this?  It appears they did not.  Is there any rationale for any of this?  Is Andro Blue in for sure?  So confusing.  BWG, please help us!

lol! I got nuthin for ya'!  You'd think that one of these days I'd finally learn my lesson and stop trying to interpret and or predict what LHGCL will do on anything.

As my kids would tell me "Epic fail, Dad!"


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Post by bootsy 02/06/15, 01:44 pm

What a Goat Rodeo...
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Post by Tiki-taka 02/06/15, 01:55 pm

I'm not normally one to think in conspiracy tones,  but trying to do my best Tom Clancy interpretation of the results, I think the big clubs Texans and D'Feeters did a little bargaining to get the results that are posted.    Mathematically, FW Black was the last team which had an opportuntiy to promote had they won out their three remaining games and all the teams above them lost every remaining game.  D'Feeters needed a D1 Presence, and I believe Texans run the board.  Had LH wanted to have a little more exclusivity to D1 in our age group it made sense to stop at 12 teams, but then there would be 17 in D2.  So, then they probably need to balance out the divisions and maybe should of could of stopped at 13 with 16 in D2, but then D'feeters would be on the outside and it still looks unbalanced.  So get to D'Feeters and stop, making D1 14 teams would have been reasonable, but then that last Texan team is sitting there, just begging to be taken also.  So, 15 it is.   Note: at the time of my conspiracy theory D'feeters was behind Kicks in the standings,  now I see that they have flipped positions.  So as with most conspiracies, my thoughts are based on faulty logic and facts, and I was not the near the grassy knoll during the board meeting.  Conspiracy theory off.

While there are many benefits and cons to the result, one thing that may be a by-product is that players/families who may have been hesitant to leave a team because their other options were not in D1 may now have more options and be willing to reset to that dream team they always wanted to go to.   So Lake Highlands becomes the Nordstroms of soccer in customer service...  Smile
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Post by oswaldogg 02/06/15, 02:18 pm

Mathematically Andromeda Blue had a chance of finishing 4th. Realistically, it is up to each individual opinion.

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Post by Guest 02/06/15, 02:20 pm

oswaldogg wrote:Mathematically Andromeda Blue had a chance of finishing 4th.  Realistically, it is up to each individual opinion.

Says QT to the far right of their team name on the LH division alignment post....Pretty clear they need to requalify.

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Post by Tiki-taka 02/06/15, 02:25 pm

01_YOUTH_DAD wrote:
oswaldogg wrote:Mathematically Andromeda Blue had a chance of finishing 4th.  Realistically, it is up to each individual opinion.

Says QT to the far right of their team name on the LH division alignment post....Pretty clear they need to requalify.

The QT to the right says they would have been in QT had the season finished and the standings remained the same. The "QT" has been deleted. But the descriptor "regulated" is not next to their team name meaning they have not been regulated. They are in D2 next year.
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Post by KeeperSweeper 02/06/15, 02:31 pm

LH fixed the spreadsheet. Andro Blue is in, 3 openings for QT.
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Post by Guest 02/06/15, 02:38 pm

[quote="KeeperSweeper"]LH fixed the spreadsheet.  Andro Blue is in, 3 openings for QT.[/quote

Been a busy month!


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Post by Mia Hamster 02/06/15, 02:51 pm

There looks to be a few match ups in D1 and D2 that will have the potential to be "blow outs", but it will still be competitive soccer for 85% of the games.

The next interesting step: what will the Board offer for promotion & relegation thresholds for the 16/17 U16 season?

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Post by jae 02/06/15, 03:22 pm

Mia Hamster wrote:There looks to be a few match ups in D1 and D2 that will have the potential to be "blow outs", but it will still be competitive soccer for 85% of the games.  

The next interesting step:  what will the Board offer for promotion & relegation thresholds for the 16/17 U16 season?

There is no need to speculate on next year's promotion & relegation thresholds. We will have another wet spring and LH, in an attempt to keep everyone happy, will have all teams play in D1 for the U16 season!

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Post by ItsMeAgain 02/06/15, 03:42 pm

Mia Hamster wrote:but it will still be competitive soccer for 85% of the games.  



no. it won't. 50% at best. but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
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Post by defender1 02/06/15, 03:51 pm

This forum always becomes so entertaining this time of year. The childishness of some "adults" just amazes me. The speculation as "truth" is also funny. Good luck to all the girls and teams this coming year.

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Post by allhatnocattle 02/06/15, 04:36 pm

Given that the LHGCL by-laws had D1 transitioning from 9 teams this year to 8 for next year (pre-monsoon), there are legitimate concerns that the expansion to 15 teams could create significant team talent polarity.

The fact that this year's 9th place D1 team yielded 4.5 times more goals than they scored indicates a real need for roster upgrades with ~40% of the new D1 teams.

And where is that going to originate?



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