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Post by PowerKick 21/10/16, 03:13 pm

Two Asian teams (Korea and Japan) got into the final for the U17 world cup, Japan was also the champ for last time. What's wrong with US? I thought we are the best, are we?

http://www.fifa.com/u17womensworldcup/

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Post by ONLYASOCCERDAD 21/10/16, 04:24 pm

PowerKick wrote:Two Asian teams (Korea and Japan) got into the final for the U17 world cup, Japan was also the champ for last time. What's wrong with US? I thought we are the best, are we?

http://www.fifa.com/u17womensworldcup/

NO! our 23, fifteen and sixteen year old girls were not the best this tournament

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Post by FC1 21/10/16, 08:58 pm

We should ask soapboxmom to look into this for us. For a small fee she can get to the bottom of it.

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Post by go99 24/10/16, 08:47 am

ONLYASOCCERDAD wrote:
PowerKick wrote:Two Asian teams (Korea and Japan) got into the final for the U17 world cup, Japan was also the champ for last time. What's wrong with US? I thought we are the best, are we?

http://www.fifa.com/u17womensworldcup/

NO! our 23, fifteen and sixteen year old girls were not the best this tournament

well if they were not our best then there is something wrong with US soccer. It was the world cup. If you aren't using your best there what are you saving them for? GTFO
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Post by ONLYASOCCERDAD 24/10/16, 10:07 am

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ONLYASOCCERDAD wrote:
PowerKick wrote:Two Asian teams (Korea and Japan) got into the final for the U17 world cup, Japan was also the champ for last time. What's wrong with US? I thought we are the best, are we?

http://www.fifa.com/u17womensworldcup/

NO! our 23, fifteen and sixteen year old girls were not the best this tournament

well if they were not our best then there is something wrong with US soccer.  It was the world cup.  If you aren't using your best there what are you saving them for? GTFO
Unfortunately Go, it would be almost impossible to Identify the 23 best 15-16 year olds in a Country of 300 million if we were good at it. Fact is, we suck at Identification in America.

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Post by go99 24/10/16, 11:01 am

Okay then the answer was identification is the problem not nothing wrong we chose not to send our best. Oh and your math is flawed in the basic theory. The larger pool doesn't make it harder to find the best players it gives you a bigger choice of top players to choose from. Our numbers playing aren't a weakness its a strength.

so looks like we can make you down for poor scouting and identification. You're welcome.

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Post by Lefty 24/10/16, 11:30 am

ONLYASOCCERDAD wrote:
PowerKick wrote:Two Asian teams (Korea and Japan) got into the final for the U17 world cup, Japan was also the champ for last time. What's wrong with US? I thought we are the best, are we?

http://www.fifa.com/u17womensworldcup/

NO! our 23, fifteen and sixteen year old girls were not the best this tournament

I thought the question being asked was 'Are we (USA) the best at U17 soccer?'  

Given the team was eliminated, the question if we ID and send our best to these tournaments is probably a more relevant question.

Lot's of possible reasons for not winning:
. They could have just been focused on development of the players vs the outcome of the games Razz
. Benefits of age pure have not have time to take hold yet Razz

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Post by Guest 24/10/16, 12:08 pm

US Soccer is rotten to the core with politics. There is no place for politics in sport. Until the sportsmen can run the politicians out of US Soccer, it's all just a bunch of jaw-jacking.

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Post by Guest 24/10/16, 12:16 pm

Granny Hawkins says US Soccer ain't worth doodly-squat.

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Post by Jessie K 05/11/16, 08:23 am

My Japanese friend told me that Japan had a wonderful youth soccer systerm,so...

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Post by ElClassico 05/11/16, 10:45 am

US Soccer is fine; age pure will solve all our issues.
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Post by Lakedad 05/11/16, 10:50 am

Maybe it isn't the best 15-18 that always matters. It's the best 11 that play well together.
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Post by ONLYASOCCERDAD 07/11/16, 08:50 am

 The larger pool doesn't make it harder to find the best players it gives you a bigger choice of top players to choose from.  Our numbers playing aren't a weakness its a strength.

so looks like we can make you down for poor scouting and identification.  You're welcome.

1. Poor scouting and identification
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then make number 2, geography. if the larger pool were more condensed it would be easier to find the best of the best. maybe the kids could even compete head to head. now theres a thought lol

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Post by PowerKick 29/11/16, 10:08 am

It is really frustrated to see the US U20 team lost again in the world cup.

Now Asians dominate the youth soccer? North Korea? I don't understand.

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Post by Lefty 29/11/16, 10:49 am

Lakedad wrote:Maybe it isn't the best 15-18 that always matters.  It's the best 11 that play well together.  

Nah.  Couldn't be that we continue to focus on picking the 11 best individuals, but get beat by much better TEAMS, with less individual talent.


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Post by 5050Ball 29/11/16, 10:52 am

PowerKick wrote:It is really frustrated to see the US U20 team lost again in the world cup.

Now Asians dominate the youth soccer? North Korea? I don't understand.

Maybe if our Supreme Leader offered extra rations?
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Post by NoSpinZone 29/11/16, 11:01 am

PowerKick wrote:It is really frustrated to see the US U20 team lost again in the world cup.

Now Asians dominate the youth soccer? North Korea? I don't understand.

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Post by Guest 29/11/16, 11:09 am

PowerKick wrote:It is really frustrated to see the US U20 team lost again in the world cup.

Now Asians dominate the youth soccer? North Korea? I don't understand.

Our American players that play for Mexico look good. There's development happening here.

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Post by PowerKick 29/11/16, 11:22 am

NoSpinZone wrote:

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Haha, you guys are still high for just one tournament success? While it was just a showcase tournament, everyone else focus on developing, only you guys are still enjoying the result.

Oh, may I ask if this was the only tournament win for the past year? Did you get the hardware? LOL.

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Post by Gunners 29/11/16, 02:14 pm

These weren't kids. These were mostly college women, some of which were Juniors.

Not to say this wasn't the best team we could have put out there, but there were a number of college players who chose not to participate in this due to the fact that they were being forced to redshirt this year of college soccer.

Go read the report, apparently it was pretty easy to discern what went wrong. Killed in the middle and couldn't play long (or wide) with success. Hard to out-athlete a team when you can't get the ball.

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Post by HomeStretch 29/11/16, 04:09 pm

Lefty wrote:
Lakedad wrote:Maybe it isn't the best 15-18 that always matters.  It's the best 11 that play well together.  

Nah.  Couldn't be that we continue to focus on picking the 11 best individuals, but get beat by much better TEAMS, with less individual talent.

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