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D1 teams moving to Pre DA? D1 level of competition
D1 teams moving to Pre DA? D1 level of competition
We haven't been in the "select" world too long so we learn as we go but I just wanted to get a better understanding if that's what is going on, I would think the league would just drop the team and filling them in with the next deserving team
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So the club can fill those spots with whatever team they want. However you do need to "prove" that the team can compete.
So a D3 PPL team won't get approval to play in Classic D1.
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MurderWasTheCase wrote:I know plenty of teams that moved from plano to classic because their club had a bye.
yep and most failed to hold the D1 spot and are starting their way back down to where they belong
what you heard is true. A lot of talent will leave Classic league this offseason for DA. Look back at the 06 and 07 groups from when they were U11 to U12. The U12 classic league winners had much more lopsided records. For example, Solar McKinney's 07 team finished somewhere around 5th in U11. Went 18-0-1 this past season (U12).
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schmuck wrote:MurderWasTheCase wrote:I know plenty of teams that moved from plano to classic because their club had a bye.
yep and most failed to hold the D1 spot and are starting their way back down to where they belong
what you heard is true. A lot of talent will leave Classic league this offseason for DA. Look back at the 06 and 07 groups from when they were U11 to U12. The U12 classic league winners had much more lopsided records. For example, Solar McKinney's 07 team finished somewhere around 5th in U11. Went 18-0-1 this past season (U12).
DA is part of the explanation for the changes occurring in D1 at U12, but the qualifying tournament is also to blame for the poor structure of D1 at the U11 age. A couple of top 08 teams didn't make D1, and some of them had their way with top D1 teams in recent tournaments. With the talent shuffle this offseason and the newly promoted teams, I don't see half of the top 10 D1 teams from U11 qualifying for D1 at U13.
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A joke and a marketing bit... all about $$$...
Meanwhile going completely against the purpose of DA by having less training and more games.
"The Academy Program's philosophy is based on increased training, less total games, and more meaningful games using international rules of competition."
http://www.ussoccerda.com/overview-what-is-da
We keep researching how to fix USA soccer and each time, fall back to the $$$
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In U12 Classic last year Solar moved a team in to fill an empty slot that didn't win a game, scored 7 goals and allowed 147 goals. Development? How bout taking the next few teams from the QT to play in Classic instead?
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Maradona wrote:These teams that didn't earn it will get crushed in Classic. It doesn't do the players on these teams any good, it doesn't do their opponents any good but these big clubs do pay lots of $ to the league so we know who it does good.
In U12 Classic last year Solar moved a team in to fill an empty slot that didn't win a game, scored 7 goals and allowed 147 goals. Development? How bout taking the next few teams from the QT to play in Classic instead?
This is what I was thinking as well, think if you have x amount of players leave then it should be that the team has to requalify or next team from qt moves up at the bottom of the list and pushes next team up.
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Big Club: "We'll play in your league with a majority of the top talent in the metroplex. BUT, you have to promise that when our U11 team goes to DA at U12, you give us a BYE for another team to join?"
Said no "Big Club" ever.
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Ctrl Alt de Ligt wrote:I have no problem with a club getting a bye in a league that they earned. Yes, sometimes teams like the one you referenced earlier get killed, but other teams from that same club got byes into D1 and D2 and did fine. The qualifying tournament allows for teams to earn their way in by developing the entire year to prep for the qualifying tournament.
Big Club: "We'll play in your league with a majority of the top talent in the metroplex. BUT, you have to promise that when our U11 team goes to DA at U12, you give us a BYE for another team to join?"
Said no "Big Club" ever.
I don't fully disagree with you, but if x(big club) already had decent teams in D2, you would think one of those teams would have gotten the bye into D1 vs gifting a spot to a basically completely new team with players who were playing in less competitive leagues.
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BusbyBabes wrote:I think my biggest criticism isnt the "free pass" to D1... but the empty promises of recruiting with the guise of 12 Pre "DA" teams (two teams each for 6 pre DA academies) when there will only be 3 DA academies next year (no more Texan South, Solar West and FC Dallas South). I get that half of the promised coaches were short changed, but deceiving parents and players with future bigger promises that don't exist is troublesome.
Every coach in my opinion sells fake promises, I think it's up to the parents to do their own research and also be realistic with their kids level. Too many parents think their kids are prospects and coaches take advantage of that. We didn't know much about competitive soccer last year but we learned real fast the reality of things. So I think parent's don't have an excuse, my issue is with Classic being less competitive, there should be some kind of rules to teams that vacate a spots.
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