Lake Highlands QT 2012

So, out of the top 38 FBR ranked teams only two are not playing in the QT...

1) Fever White

and

2) Polaris

Anyone know what's up with these two?

Fever website doesn't even list Fever White as a "competetive" team anymore.

Polaris website says they intended to play the QT... but I guess that's not happening.

Here's the complete applied teams list and their respective most recent FBR ranking. (old FBR referenced just for the heck of it, there will be much shifting around after Puma and King Tut has been played)

One Andromeda team and one Sting team were previousy unranked (stuck them at the bottom for now). Any guesses on where these two teams might fall in to the mix?


1 FC Dallas Premier
2 SRSA Colvin
3 DT South
4 Dynamo
5 FC Dallas Blue Renfro
6 Solar Gio
7 Fever Red
8 D'Feeters
9 Andromeda Red Wells
10 Waco Lady Blast
11 FCD South Rangel
12 Saints Priddy
13 Sting Rezaie
14 Dallas Texans Higg
15 Dynasty
16 Sting E Dunstan
17 LP Thompson/Fagan
18 FCD East Barnes
19 LP Keegan/Jones
20 Andromeda Powers
21 TFC Blue Larry
22 Solar Stark
23 Cosmos Black
24 Celtic
25 Sting Central Parker
27 LP Dalglish/Waldrum
29 Dallas Kicks
30 LP Rush/Rolf
31 FC Premier
32 Dallas Texans Red Vigil
33 Mustangs Spence
34 Odyssey White
35 FC Dallas West
36 Texas Thunder
37 FWFC
38 LP Hansen (Savage)
42 Lady Titans
49 Solar Gold Sedeh
50 TFC Deering
55 LP Nicol (Wilson)
62 FC Dallas Thompson
66 Crush (Frady)
?? Andromeda Blue Patterson
?? Sting (Cuevas)

So it looks like the following teams are rolling the dice when it comes to QT seeding (by not playing in King Tut or Puma Cup):

SRSA Colvin
Solar Gio
Fever Red
Waco Lady Blast
Texas Thunder
Lady Titans

I wonder how good of a strategy that is?

IMO not a good idea, leaves too much to chance unless you are having an issue that you don't want exposed, calcualted risk I suppose. Fever is strong so probably won't get hurt, Gio has hidden from competition all year long, why would this be any different, Colvin will seed high based on legend alone! Seems like the other three would play for sure?

Gio stands to benefit the most bc they lost they're keeper. By not playing they stand to get a high seed and may be fortunate enough to make it 1st weekend. Tut may expose the hole left by the keeper leaving, unless they have found a quality replacement.

Colvin's just that good.
Don't know much about Fever.
The rest are probably not as significant either way.

Gio has a strong team. The keeper they lost was talented no doubt, but the team has become stronger in the back and mid. Therefore a replacement keeper will not be that difficult to fill.

I would disagree jj
But I do think that's encouraging for your group

Figuring out seeding from a few games with teams that have changed so radically this year is going to be quite challenging. The goalie "shuffle" is just one aspect, but complete re-structuring of some teams has been missed completely by FBR and one tournament won't give a lot more insight. Good luck to the folks who do the seeding...

evenkeel wrote:Figuring out seeding from a few games with teams that have changed so radically this year is going to be quite challenging. The goalie "shuffle" is just one aspect, but complete re-structuring of some teams has been missed completely by FBR and one tournament won't give a lot more insight. Good luck to the folks who do the seeding...

The LHQT seeder does a pretty good job. I'm the manager of an 01 team and after King Tut she called me directly to ask a question about our team. They had been out watching games and I think put a lot of weight into the pre-qualifying tournaments.

evenkeel wrote:Figuring out seeding from a few games with teams that have changed so radically this year is going to be quite challenging. The goalie "shuffle" is just one aspect, but complete re-structuring of some teams has been missed completely by FBR and one tournament won't give a lot more insight. Good luck to the folks who do the seeding...

They will have "insight" into how the teams are playing a week before the qualifying tournament. That is likely a more reliable indicator of future performance than historical information relating to how a team played six months ago with a different roster of players. The answer is simple - DD needs to bring her "A" game - no pressure.

Quick Question... SO, using the FBR listing above as the QT seeding, Would the first games of the first round be FC Dallas Premier vs Crush (Frady), Colvin vs FC Dallas Thompson, DT South vs LP Nicol etc....?

jj4mel wrote:Gio has a strong team. The keeper they lost was talented no doubt, but the team has become stronger in the back and mid. Therefore a replacement keeper will not be that difficult to fill.

Gio's team is full of talented girls. Even if he doesn't get a "dedicated keeper", there some really athletic girls that can do a great job in goal I'm sure.

I wish the best for all the teams (unless you are playing our team) lol !

Keep those little sweethearts hydrated!!!

When does the schedule come out?

usmadsoccer wrote:When does the schedule come out?

After the Puma Cup/King Tut tournaments are played.

02Dad wrote:So it looks like the following teams are rolling the dice when it comes to QT seeding (by not playing in King Tut or Puma Cup):

SRSA Colvin
Solar Gio
Fever Red
Waco Lady Blast
Texas Thunder
Lady Titans

I wonder how good of a strategy that is?

LH will send each of the big club '02 coaches a note and ask them to rank the '02 teams. They will use this as a majority of the criteria and the pre-qualifing tournaments as a minority, so for Solar the above is a good strategy if they are already highly regarded.

nukem wrote:

02Dad wrote:So it looks like the following teams are rolling the dice when it comes to QT seeding (by not playing in King Tut or Puma Cup):

SRSA Colvin
Solar Gio
Fever Red
Waco Lady Blast
Texas Thunder
Lady Titans

I wonder how good of a strategy that is?

LH will send each of the big club '02 coaches a note and ask them to rank the '02 teams. They will use this as a majority of the criteria and the pre-qualifing tournaments as a minority, so for Solar the above is a good strategy if they are already highly regarded.

LOL

My question is once seeding is done how does LH figure out who plays who? I know the top 10 don't play each other. Say if there are 50 teams registered to play. Does #1 play #50, #2 play #49, etc...? Or is there some other system they use?

jen_nah wrote:My question is once seeding is done how does LH figure out who plays who? I know the top 10 don't play each other. Say if there are 50 teams registered to play. Does #1 play #50, #2 play #49, etc...? Or is there some other system they use?

you are correct.
they list 1 - 50 in your example, then turn the bottom to the top where 1 matches with 50. then they turn it up again a second time to get the 4 teams per bracket.

and nukem's comment about coach involvement is completely laughable.

pro16 wrote:

jen_nah wrote:My question is once seeding is done how does LH figure out who plays who? I know the top 10 don't play each other. Say if there are 50 teams registered to play. Does #1 play #50, #2 play #49, etc...? Or is there some other system they use?

you are correct.
they list 1 - 50 in your example, then turn the bottom to the top where 1 matches with 50. then they turn it up again a second time to get the 4 teams per bracket.

and nukem's comment about coach involvement is completely laughable.

Then you are living with blinders on. Good luck in the tournaments.

Sounds like some DI envy to me. Enjoy Plano, you malcontents!

pro16 wrote:

jen_nah wrote:My question is once seeding is done how does LH figure out who plays who? I know the top 10 don't play each other. Say if there are 50 teams registered to play. Does #1 play #50, #2 play #49, etc...? Or is there some other system they use?

you are correct.
they list 1 - 50 in your example, then turn the bottom to the top where 1 matches with 50. then they turn it up again a second time to get the 4 teams per bracket.

and nukem's comment about coach involvement is completely laughable.

I laid out how it all worked each of the past 2 years in post #13 from this thread:

http://www.txsoccer.net/t12490-lhgcl-qualifying-tournament-2012

Given that it looks like there are 44 teams signed up this year, it should work out exactly like the example I gave...

dallasgal wrote:Sounds like some DI envy to me. Enjoy Plano, you malcontents!

Our team is already in LH, but thanks for the well wishes.

dallasgal wrote:Sounds like some DI envy to me. Enjoy Plano, you malcontents!

dallasgal: What is "DI" Envy and who is this comment directed towards?

nukem wrote:

LH will send each of the big club '02 coaches a noŽte and ask them to rank the '02 teams. They will use this as a majority of the criteria and the pre-qualifing tournaments as a minority, so for Solar the above is a good strategy if they are already highly regarded.

Highly unethical should that happen.
It does not.
Not supposed to anyway.

Nukem

No blinders friend.
I have first hand knowledge as to how the system works as I have been involved for 10+ years in said process.