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ballboy wrote:

RalphyBoy wrote:

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:

Shelby427 wrote:

Joga14:55 wrote:What does Liverpool have to do with this particular diss Shelby?  Just curious seeing that this came from a sting parent from what I can see.  I could be wrong though.   Again just curious about the Liverpool reference.

He's a LP parent or used to be... my comment is not a knock on LP but on the people who think LP is God's gift to North Texas Soccer and that any team south of I-30 is made up of degenerate less than equals. These people know the TRUE SOCCER and where it is played and it certainly isn't on a team/club their kids are not on.

Touchy a bit about Liverpool are we??  DTS '04 is an "over" aggressive team and probably win 90/95% of games because of this not because of tactics.  From what I saw, DTS back line and sweeper tend to kick the ball back up field or out of bounds when pressured instead of playing the ball out, so yes kickball was played.  The game played against LP Dalglish was physical and many fouls were committed.  Im sure I'm not the first nor the last to say this about DTS "over" aggressiveness. And no my dd doesn't play on LP Dalglish. I was merely a bystander watching after my bb team played.

As far as GA's 02s, 03s, 04's, & 05s, I believe it was once stated on this forum, Who is DTS competing against for players?? North side of town is over flooded with teams looking for the next BIG talent.  Not to take anything away from what GA, he has a lot of success and this is no stab at the kids or the parents but  DTS sits on their own island.  Yea, I said it.

My conclusion was based on what I saw against LP Dalglish and strictly that and nothing to do with South of I-30. No where did anyone say anything bout where you live?  Nothing was said negatively about any kid or parent. Only that in my humble opinion what I observed was kick ball and a lot of fouls that weren't called.  Sometime it hits home, I understand, when other people see it or tell it as it is.  In no way does this reflect on your kids or parents. Just the style of soccer or rugby y'all are playing.  You have very talented players so I guess what I'm trying to say is why all the over aggressiveness? Those DTS girls are super fast and skilled so why just whack it? Once again, No stab at the kids just the style of play.  But hey it works for you.  So good luck I'm sure you have much success in the future.  Just a few questions about your style of play is what I was curious about. 

Curious why style of play at this age even really matters?  These kids are still worrying about not panicking when being attacked and looking for openings to send the ball to other players.  Rarely do you find that finess player in a defensive position - they end up playing forward or midfield.  It's a one touch and either pass or clear - two rules: don't play with the ball and lose it, and don't send it in front of the goal box.  When someone says a player is overly aggressive it seems to me they are saying, I can't get my kid to come out of their aggressive shell on the field so your kid is pushing my kid around and looks "bullish" compared to my kid.  Here's an interest quote from a coach that has coached kids for 30 years and has written about players development, about what can and can not be taught:

“If a player body-wise is light in her frame and gets knocked around a lot, but she still puts herself into 50-50 situations, even though she ends up on the ground, because she has aggressiveness – that player, when her body fills out, regains her productivity,” he says.

“But if from the beginning she’s a more passive player mentally, and she gets knocked around, the confidence level drops a lot where many times it cannot be regained.”

"Bobak says that he’s come to the conclusion that mental aggressiveness can’t be taught."

So this argument, to me, considering the age of these kids, is irrelevant in the overall scheme of what these players will become when they reach that age when the playing field begins to level out and the 9 year old  stars of today that HAVE that mental aggressiveness get their skills under control and their bodies fill out to a point that they're no longer the smallest or slowest and their game time maturity catches up with those whose game time maturity may have started an earlier age.  Right now, it's about the parents that want to proudly pound their chest the hardest after their kid plays a game cause the Cowboys, Stars or Rangers aren't giving them the satisfaction they need.

You know what they say about opinions.......... 

RalphyBoy wrote:

ballboy wrote:

RalphyBoy wrote:

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:

Shelby427 wrote:

Joga14:55 wrote:What does Liverpool have to do with this particular diss Shelby?  Just curious seeing that this came from a sting parent from what I can see.  I could be wrong though.   Again just curious about the Liverpool reference.

He's a LP parent or used to be... my comment is not a knock on LP but on the people who think LP is God's gift to North Texas Soccer and that any team south of I-30 is made up of degenerate less than equals. These people know the TRUE SOCCER and where it is played and it certainly isn't on a team/club their kids are not on.

Touchy a bit about Liverpool are we??  DTS '04 is an "over" aggressive team and probably win 90/95% of games because of this not because of tactics.  From what I saw, DTS back line and sweeper tend to kick the ball back up field or out of bounds when pressured instead of playing the ball out, so yes kickball was played.  The game played against LP Dalglish was physical and many fouls were committed.  Im sure I'm not the first nor the last to say this about DTS "over" aggressiveness. And no my dd doesn't play on LP Dalglish. I was merely a bystander watching after my bb team played.

As far as GA's 02s, 03s, 04's, & 05s, I believe it was once stated on this forum, Who is DTS competing against for players?? North side of town is over flooded with teams looking for the next BIG talent.  Not to take anything away from what GA, he has a lot of success and this is no stab at the kids or the parents but  DTS sits on their own island.  Yea, I said it.

My conclusion was based on what I saw against LP Dalglish and strictly that and nothing to do with South of I-30. No where did anyone say anything bout where you live?  Nothing was said negatively about any kid or parent. Only that in my humble opinion what I observed was kick ball and a lot of fouls that weren't called.  Sometime it hits home, I understand, when other people see it or tell it as it is.  In no way does this reflect on your kids or parents. Just the style of soccer or rugby y'all are playing.  You have very talented players so I guess what I'm trying to say is why all the over aggressiveness? Those DTS girls are super fast and skilled so why just whack it? Once again, No stab at the kids just the style of play.  But hey it works for you.  So good luck I'm sure you have much success in the future.  Just a few questions about your style of play is what I was curious about. 

Curious why style of play at this age even really matters?  These kids are still worrying about not panicking when being attacked and looking for openings to send the ball to other players.  Rarely do you find that finess player in a defensive position - they end up playing forward or midfield.  It's a one touch and either pass or clear - two rules: don't play with the ball and lose it, and don't send it in front of the goal box.  When someone says a player is overly aggressive it seems to me they are saying, I can't get my kid to come out of their aggressive shell on the field so your kid is pushing my kid around and looks "bullish" compared to my kid.  Here's an interest quote from a coach that has coached kids for 30 years and has written about players development, about what can and can not be taught:

“If a player body-wise is light in her frame and gets knocked around a lot, but she still puts herself into 50-50 situations, even though she ends up on the ground, because she has aggressiveness – that player, when her body fills out, regains her productivity,” he says.

“But if from the beginning she’s a more passive player mentally, and she gets knocked around, the confidence level drops a lot where many times it cannot be regained.”

"Bobak says that he’s come to the conclusion that mental aggressiveness can’t be taught."

So this argument, to me, considering the age of these kids, is irrelevant in the overall scheme of what these players will become when they reach that age when the playing field begins to level out and the 9 year old  stars of today that HAVE that mental aggressiveness get their skills under control and their bodies fill out to a point that they're no longer the smallest or slowest and their game time maturity catches up with those whose game time maturity may have started an earlier age.  Right now, it's about the parents that want to proudly pound their chest the hardest after their kid plays a game cause the Cowboys, Stars or Rangers aren't giving them the satisfaction they need.

You know what they say about opinions.......... 

Ummm... no, please do explain?  Some are blantant opinions, others are based on years of scientific study and are closer to fact than opinion - guess we'll see in a few years which one is which - however, at this age, I think parents tend to get a little too emotionally invested - maybe it's the weight of the pocketbook that drives these feelings?

kixR4Adults2 wrote:

RalphyBoy wrote:

ballboy wrote:

RalphyBoy wrote:

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:

Shelby427 wrote:He's a LP parent or used to be... my comment is not a knock on LP but on the people who think LP is God's gift to North Texas Soccer and that any team south of I-30 is made up of degenerate less than equals. These people know the TRUE SOCCER and where it is played and it certainly isn't on a team/club their kids are not on.

Touchy a bit about Liverpool are we??  DTS '04 is an "over" aggressive team and probably win 90/95% of games because of this not because of tactics.  From what I saw, DTS back line and sweeper tend to kick the ball back up field or out of bounds when pressured instead of playing the ball out, so yes kickball was played.  The game played against LP Dalglish was physical and many fouls were committed.  Im sure I'm not the first nor the last to say this about DTS "over" aggressiveness. And no my dd doesn't play on LP Dalglish. I was merely a bystander watching after my bb team played.

As far as GA's 02s, 03s, 04's, & 05s, I believe it was once stated on this forum, Who is DTS competing against for players?? North side of town is over flooded with teams looking for the next BIG talent.  Not to take anything away from what GA, he has a lot of success and this is no stab at the kids or the parents but  DTS sits on their own island.  Yea, I said it.

My conclusion was based on what I saw against LP Dalglish and strictly that and nothing to do with South of I-30. No where did anyone say anything bout where you live?  Nothing was said negatively about any kid or parent. Only that in my humble opinion what I observed was kick ball and a lot of fouls that weren't called.  Sometime it hits home, I understand, when other people see it or tell it as it is.  In no way does this reflect on your kids or parents. Just the style of soccer or rugby y'all are playing.  You have very talented players so I guess what I'm trying to say is why all the over aggressiveness? Those DTS girls are super fast and skilled so why just whack it? Once again, No stab at the kids just the style of play.  But hey it works for you.  So good luck I'm sure you have much success in the future.  Just a few questions about your style of play is what I was curious about. 

Curious why style of play at this age even really matters?  These kids are still worrying about not panicking when being attacked and looking for openings to send the ball to other players.  Rarely do you find that finess player in a defensive position - they end up playing forward or midfield.  It's a one touch and either pass or clear - two rules: don't play with the ball and lose it, and don't send it in front of the goal box.  When someone says a player is overly aggressive it seems to me they are saying, I can't get my kid to come out of their aggressive shell on the field so your kid is pushing my kid around and looks "bullish" compared to my kid.  Here's an interest quote from a coach that has coached kids for 30 years and has written about players development, about what can and can not be taught:

“If a player body-wise is light in her frame and gets knocked around a lot, but she still puts herself into 50-50 situations, even though she ends up on the ground, because she has aggressiveness – that player, when her body fills out, regains her productivity,” he says.

“But if from the beginning she’s a more passive player mentally, and she gets knocked around, the confidence level drops a lot where many times it cannot be regained.”

"Bobak says that he’s come to the conclusion that mental aggressiveness can’t be taught."

So this argument, to me, considering the age of these kids, is irrelevant in the overall scheme of what these players will become when they reach that age when the playing field begins to level out and the 9 year old  stars of today that HAVE that mental aggressiveness get their skills under control and their bodies fill out to a point that they're no longer the smallest or slowest and their game time maturity catches up with those whose game time maturity may have started an earlier age.  Right now, it's about the parents that want to proudly pound their chest the hardest after their kid plays a game cause the Cowboys, Stars or Rangers aren't giving them the satisfaction they need.

You know what they say about opinions.......... 

Ummm... no, please do explain?  Some are blantant opinions, others are based on years of scientific study and are closer to fact than opinion - guess we'll see in a few years which one is which - however, at this age, I think parents tend to get a little too emotionally invested - maybe it's the weight of the pocketbook that drives these feelings?

a friend of mine's daughter plays for tx lightning, their game was immediately after DTS/DALGLISH game ...he said he witnessed a Dalgliesh parent drag his daughter to the car by the arm .what was that all about ?  that's either you didn't play well Missy or come on you're going to a new club you sat on the bench too long ....

Cleansheets wrote:Perception is reality unfortunately.

kixR4Adults2 wrote:
Is that a one liner Sheets?

But I live down the street from a guy whose friend has a daughter who is in girl scouts with a girl who's friend plays for the team that played against TX lightning that also saw some creepy guy stalking LP girls in the parking lot before the game

go99 wrote:AWWW don't be mad kix:(   You post something that you "heard" from a "Friend" so that you can besmirch a team with it and I poked fun at you.  But yes anytime I post something that I heard from a "friend" that is unrelated to their soccer so that I can take a shot at a team you can definitely bring this up.

RalphyBoy wrote:Unless you actually hear a parent scolding their kid and saying "you played horrible" or "you really stunk up the place" or something related to her play in soccer, don't assume a parents anger after a game is directly related to the game itself - sometimes kids at age 9/10 act like little heathens cause they "want" something after soccer and are willing to use the public venue as their stage to get what they want by embarrassing their parents in public.  And, the parent is forced to then act appropriately by removing said DD from the public area as not to create more of a stir or to fuel said rumors on boards such as this.

go99 wrote:you could have made that same post as "he said he witnessed a parent drag his daughter to the car by the arm"  There was no need to identify it as a Dalglish parent.  You really should reconsider your friendship with this Dalglish parent (sorry mis read that).  I hear they drag their kids to the car by the arm

go99 wrote:you could have made that same post as "he said he witnessed a parent drag his daughter to the car by the arm"  There was no need to identify it as a Dalglish parent.  You really should reconsider your friendship with this Dalglish parent (sorry mis read that).  I hear they drag their kids to the car by the arm

Cleansheets wrote:

go99 wrote:you could have made that same post as "he said he witnessed a parent drag his daughter to the car by the arm"  There was no need to identify it as a Dalglish parent.  You really should reconsider your friendship with this Dalglish parent (sorry mis read that).  I hear they drag their kids to the car by the arm

So wait, you're saying you are NOT supposed to drag your kid by the arm after a game? Shoot I'm doing all wrong!

kixR4Adults2 wrote:

go99 wrote:you could have made that same post as "he said he witnessed a parent drag his daughter to the car by the arm"  There was no need to identify it as a Dalglish parent.  You really should reconsider your friendship with this Dalglish parent (sorry mis read that).  I hear they drag their kids to the car by the arm

oh hell what would be the fun in that or accumulation of thread pages...thanks for your contribution and your morally correct correction...embrace the debate I didn't throw out any names or jersey number...nothing crucial everyone safe we're a community here at 04 girls soccer forum, like cheers, we are where everyone knows your name

RalphyBoy wrote:

kixR4Adults2 wrote:

go99 wrote:you could have made that same post as "he said he witnessed a parent drag his daughter to the car by the arm"  There was no need to identify it as a Dalglish parent.  You really should reconsider your friendship with this Dalglish parent (sorry mis read that).  I hear they drag their kids to the car by the arm

oh hell what would be the fun in that or accumulation of thread pages...thanks for your contribution and your morally correct correction...embrace the debate I didn't throw out any names or jersey number...nothing crucial everyone safe we're a community here at 04 girls soccer forum, like cheers, we are where everyone knows your name

So who's NORM!?

kixR4Adults2 wrote:

RalphyBoy wrote:

kixR4Adults2 wrote:

go99 wrote:you could have made that same post as "he said he witnessed a parent drag his daughter to the car by the arm"  There was no need to identify it as a Dalglish parent.  You really should reconsider your friendship with this Dalglish parent (sorry mis read that).  I hear they drag their kids to the car by the arm

oh hell what would be the fun in that or accumulation of thread pages...thanks for your contribution and your morally correct correction...embrace the debate I didn't throw out any names or jersey number...nothing crucial everyone safe we're a community here at 04 girls soccer forum, like cheers, we are where everyone knows your name

So who's NORM!?

I'm Cliff!! I called!!

kixR4Adults2 wrote:

Cleansheets wrote:

go99 wrote:you could have made that same post as "he said he witnessed a parent drag his daughter to the car by the arm"  There was no need to identify it as a Dalglish parent.  You really should reconsider your friendship with this Dalglish parent (sorry mis read that).  I hear they drag their kids to the car by the arm

So wait, you're saying you are NOT supposed to drag your kid by the arm after a game? Shoot I'm doing all wrong!

Sheets, I saw you drag your daughter off the field by her cleats one time I thought you were just trying to take them off apparently not