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Post by watzgerald 22/10/13, 10:39 am

How many 04 teams play with systems? Is your coach focused on individual or position based learning at this stage, or are they trying to institute a holistic system or "style" of play across the team?

Are the girls old enough where a team proficient with a sound system can overcome a team with a handful of strong individual players, or perhaps even shut down a team with a singular dominant player?

*Exclude RASE from the discussion as they have a system + talented individual players.
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Post by dreadpirateroberts 22/10/13, 11:32 am

Good topic.  I believe you are beginning to see teams who play a comprehensive approach to the game dominate teams that are dependent on a few strong players.  The days of 1 or 2 girls making a difference are over.  Additionally, I would add that teams that play dump and chase, or just kick the ball forward and shoot (even good ones) are starting to lose to teams that have a methodolgy and a style.

My DD's coach is strongly focused on teaching the team approach and style.
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Post by PickAwinner 22/10/13, 12:51 pm

Agree on the great topic and perhaps even timely.  With several of the girls starting to catch up in size and speed I was also wondering at what age does strategy and soccer style marginalize the teams with the kick and run systems.  From what I have heard the majority of the teams in select still have one large defender and forward but everyone in between will be similar.  Is it really the teams with the well-run system that will be successful in Select?  Perhaps some of the contributors with older DD's can add some insight.
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Post by ballboy 22/10/13, 01:06 pm

PickAwinner wrote:Agree on the great topic and perhaps even timely.  With several of the girls starting to catch up in size and speed I was also wondering at what age does strategy and soccer style marginalize the teams with the kick and run systems.  From what I have heard the majority of the teams in select still have one large defender and forward but everyone in between will be similar.  Is it really the teams with the well-run system that will be successful in Select?  Perhaps some of the contributors with older DD's can add some insight.
Define successful.

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Post by Soccerwinner 22/10/13, 01:09 pm

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Post by PickAwinner 22/10/13, 01:15 pm

ballboy wrote:
PickAwinner wrote:Agree on the great topic and perhaps even timely.  With several of the girls starting to catch up in size and speed I was also wondering at what age does strategy and soccer style marginalize the teams with the kick and run systems.  From what I have heard the majority of the teams in select still have one large defender and forward but everyone in between will be similar.  Is it really the teams with the well-run system that will be successful in Select?  Perhaps some of the contributors with older DD's can add some insight.
Define successful.
Not sure if you are trying to bait me in here; but for beginning lets just start with "winning" (in my best Charlie Sheen voice).  We can then move to learning the beautiful game of soccer, blah, blah, blah...
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Post by ballboy 22/10/13, 01:29 pm

PickAwinner wrote:
ballboy wrote:
PickAwinner wrote:Agree on the great topic and perhaps even timely.  With several of the girls starting to catch up in size and speed I was also wondering at what age does strategy and soccer style marginalize the teams with the kick and run systems.  From what I have heard the majority of the teams in select still have one large defender and forward but everyone in between will be similar.  Is it really the teams with the well-run system that will be successful in Select?  Perhaps some of the contributors with older DD's can add some insight.
Define successful.
Not sure if you are trying to bait me in here; but for beginning lets just start with "winning" (in my best Charlie Sheen voice).  We can then move to learning the beautiful game of soccer, blah, blah, blah...
A more organized team will always be more "successful" over a long period of time.  Mainly because they rely on skill to move and score the ball rather than trying to string a couple of big kicks together to try to score the ball. "Kickball" requires a little bit of luck and an organized team will skew the odds in their favor. Any given Sunday though.

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Post by PLAY2FEET!! 22/10/13, 01:38 pm

PickAwinner wrote:Agree on the great topic and perhaps even timely.  With several of the girls starting to catch up in size and speed I was also wondering at what age does strategy and soccer style marginalize the teams with the kick and run systems.  From what I have heard the majority of the teams in select still have one large defender and forward but everyone in between will be similar.  Is it really the teams with the well-run system that will be successful in Select?  Perhaps some of the contributors with older DD's can add some insight.
Don't fool yourself, kickball still exist in select. And some times it still produces wins.

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Post by Guest 22/10/13, 02:51 pm

PickAwinner wrote:  Perhaps some of the contributors with older DD's can add some insight.
For my older daughter the difference was in the coach.  Until the start of the U10 spring season she had an "academy" coach.  This coach was 80% skills focused and 20% system/style of play focused.

At the start of the U10 spring season, the "select" coach that took her through qualifying and her first 2 years of select took over and the practices were 25% skills focused and 75% system/style of play focused.

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Post by db10 22/10/13, 04:13 pm

Please elaborate on "system"...kick and chase is a system, albeit an ugly one, professional teams use it. If you mean teaching 9 and 10 year old girls Total Football, Tika Taka, or Catenaccio probably very few at this point. You would need a ton of things to go your own way. Patient parents, dedicated players, coaches willing to sacrifice short term glory for long term goals, etc. I think you can see some coaches trying at this point but I think the majority are too busy teaching intermediate form and skills as the parents are busy yelling "kick it out" on the sidelines.
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