04 League Scores - 2/22 thru 2/23

RalphyBoy wrote:

db10 wrote:It's funny how so many people are concerned with the well being of the LFS girls. It's only a matter of time some coach hiding on the board tries to utilize the apparent discord to introduce them to kick and chase.

Oh and by the way, if you've ever watched the LFS games half the girls on the bench are from the other team and are simply supporting each other.

However, I think this rule was broken...

2. A Club Pass Player may play League games for other teams within their Club
(referred to as “Receiving Teams” herein) under all of the following restrictions:
a. A Club Pass Player may not “play down” for a team in a younger age
group (e.g., an under-15 Club Pass Player may not play on an under-14
Receiving Team);
b. A Club Pass Player may appear on one and only one Game Day Roster on
a given day;

Not that it matters, we'll all interpret the rules as we see it benefits our argument... LOL

Rules were meant to be bent and not broken when loopholes are found and if no one calls it out, was a rule really broken?    

ballboy wrote:

RalphyBoy wrote:

db10 wrote:It's funny how so many people are concerned with the well being of the LFS girls. It's only a matter of time some coach hiding on the board tries to utilize the apparent discord to introduce them to kick and chase.

Oh and by the way, if you've ever watched the LFS games half the girls on the bench are from the other team and are simply supporting each other.

However, I think this rule was broken...

2. A Club Pass Player may play League games for other teams within their Club
(referred to as “Receiving Teams” herein) under all of the following restrictions:
a. A Club Pass Player may not “play down” for a team in a younger age
group (e.g., an under-15 Club Pass Player may not play on an under-14
Receiving Team);
b. A Club Pass Player may appear on one and only one Game Day Roster on
a given day;

Not that it matters, we'll all interpret the rules as we see it benefits our argument... LOL

Rules were meant to be bent and not broken when loopholes are found and if no one calls it out, was a rule really broken?    

I think you're missing the point. The comment was made that players were limited to 1 roster come July. This is simply not true anymore and furthermore this rule doesn't apply to SDL games anyway.

slrsoccer wrote:

Bow-Chicka-Wow Wow wrote:I say good job LFS white.    Nice tie anyway you look at it.   I'll bet Jk didn't expect such a close game and got some extra fire power to keep it interesting.   The real story line is Scott tying LFS white

Not being picky, but the real storyline is not Scott tying LFS White, it is LFS White tying Scott.  By all accounts (dangerous proposition to take from a forum) Scott didn't play poorly, it was LFS White that came in with a definitive strategy and succeeded with that strategy.  

go99 wrote:Comon you have been here long enough so you can drop the surprised act.  "flowers, for me? Well I do declare, Mr. Beauregard."

If a team uses guess players these questions always come up.  LFS white is not the first and won't be the last.  The question even lasted as long as it did because of the excuses and justifications that just up just didn't hold water.

No hate for LFS white.  I am just now finding out that they are their own team.  All along I though it was part of LFS black.

slrsoccer wrote:I think everyone is reading into the LFS roster and parking the bus way too much.

Who really cares how big their roster is and who really cares how many LFS Black players were on the field.  Sitting back and not trying to concede is a legitimate strategy used in the soccer world everyday.  The best teams in the world have been frustrated by this and many times don't even walk out with a draw.  This is the strategy used against Barca in almost every game they play.  They can have 80%-90% of possession and still occasionaly walk out with a draw or loss.

LFS needs to be congratulated for not conceding and DT Scott needs to figure out how to play against this strategy that will no doubt be used against them in the future.

ballboy wrote:What about the bake sale that was going on in Scott's box?

Master Bates wrote:

ballboy wrote:What about the bake sale that was going on in Scott's box?

I heard some of the Scott players got so bored they went and joined Dallas Rush!

Soccer Po Boy wrote:

slrsoccer wrote:

Bow-Chicka-Wow Wow wrote:I say good job LFS white.    Nice tie anyway you look at it.   I'll bet Jk didn't expect such a close game and got some extra fire power to keep it interesting.   The real story line is Scott tying LFS white

Not being picky, but the real storyline is not Scott tying LFS White, it is LFS White tying Scott.  By all accounts (dangerous proposition to take from a forum) Scott didn't play poorly, it was LFS White that came in with a definitive strategy and succeeded with that strategy.  

These are great points Joey.  And to me the real storyline should be, what does this say about LFS Black?

Used2bKix wrote:Wait....JK pulled from his top squad to possibly compete, but that happens all the time right? with other clubs?

I guess the "reason" wasn't good enough as to why he did it?

And I'm just asking and you more observant or knowledgeable posters can set me straight if I'm off base with this info....but hasn't LW sent a RASE player or 2 to a Dalglish game? LP Owens borrowed the then "Dalglish Sweeper" to stack up with other teams... What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander I guess....
I mean Scott used to use Rosales players to stack up at times...

I know what team doesn't but it may start a fire and its too early for that. LOL

Still was a valid point by GO but a better analogy as far as Lakers/Clippers...it was more like Lakers pulling from their squad to cover their D-League teams injured players. No offense at all to LFS White players.

KnKsDad wrote:

Used2bKix wrote:Wait....JK pulled from his top squad to possibly compete, but that happens all the time right? with other clubs?

I guess the "reason" wasn't good enough as to why he did it?

And I'm just asking and you more observant or knowledgeable posters can set me straight if I'm off base with this info....but hasn't LW sent a RASE player or 2 to a Dalglish game? LP Owens borrowed the then "Dalglish Sweeper" to stack up with other teams... What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander I guess....
I mean Scott used to use Rosales players to stack up at times...

I know what team doesn't but it may start a fire and its too early for that. LOL

Still was a valid point by GO but a better analogy as far as Lakers/Clippers...it was more like Lakers pulling from their squad to cover their D-League teams injured players. No offense at all to LFS White players.

You are being much more tactful in your response then I would have been. Folks calling out JK on that point is like the pot calling the K black or "gray" in this case. And Kix, just to add, there's another team (probably quite a few) that doesn't, but we not relevant enough right now to matter to the discussion.

Used2bKix wrote:

KnKsDad wrote:

Used2bKix wrote:Wait....JK pulled from his top squad to possibly compete, but that happens all the time right? with other clubs?

I guess the "reason" wasn't good enough as to why he did it?

And I'm just asking and you more observant or knowledgeable posters can set me straight if I'm off base with this info....but hasn't LW sent a RASE player or 2 to a Dalglish game? LP Owens borrowed the then "Dalglish Sweeper" to stack up with other teams... What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander I guess....
I mean Scott used to use Rosales players to stack up at times...

I know what team doesn't but it may start a fire and its too early for that. LOL

Still was a valid point by GO but a better analogy as far as Lakers/Clippers...it was more like Lakers pulling from their squad to cover their D-League teams injured players. No offense at all to LFS White players.

You are being much more tactful in your response then I would have been. Folks calling out JK on that point is like the pot calling the K black or "gray" in this case. And Kix, just to add, there's another team (probably quite a few) that doesn't, but we not relevant enough right now to matter to the discussion.

you are so right
I'm just not ready to take the gloves off yet but this civil approach is quite boring

Used2bKix wrote:this season just started they haven't played anyone yet and they've done it in the past so I guess it WAS ok for LW and not JK, he must not be 04 soccer royalty yet?

Master Bates wrote:

Used2bKix wrote:this season just started they haven't played anyone yet and they've done it in the past so I guess it WAS ok for LW and not JK, he must not be 04 soccer royalty yet?

Well we knew the posts would turn back to hate for RASE LP or LW didn't we now.

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:

slrsoccer wrote:I think everyone is reading into the LFS roster and parking the bus way too much.

Who really cares how big their roster is and who really cares how many LFS Black players were on the field.  Sitting back and not trying to concede is a legitimate strategy used in the soccer world everyday.  The best teams in the world have been frustrated by this and many times don't even walk out with a draw.  This is the strategy used against Barca in almost every game they play.  They can have 80%-90% of possession and still occasionaly walk out with a draw or loss.

LFS needs to be congratulated for not conceding and DT Scott needs to figure out how to play against this strategy that will no doubt be used against them in the future.

Trying to understand why JK is teaching this strategy at this level?  Here is a great explanation of why JK will do it:

by GrandTXSoccer on Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:09 am

"Quite honestly you generally see it happen in a few different scenarios, the first one is if you are severly out classed (happens to 03 SRSA quite a bit) and you want to try to only lose 6-0 vs 12-0 however you are willing to concede that you will not be scoring. Another scenario is if you are somewhat evenly matched but you know that your normal attacking style won't work and then leave you exposed, so you want to win but you are willing to play a very defensive game and then hope that you can get a ball cleared long and catch a break on the counter. The last scenario is late in a game and you are up by a goal and simply do not want anyone running free, so you cram the box with 9 girls and make moving the ball around pretty painful.

Personally I'm not a big fan of scenario 1 or 2 at this age because I don't think it teaches the girls anything at this age. However no matter what coaches or parents say, winning matters to them so if there's a way that someone can get a win while not developing a kid they will do it because winning keeps parent$ around and it's a business at the end of the day."

http://www.txsoccer.net/t15020p140-04-girls-fbr-rankings-04-17-13

dreadpirateroberts wrote:For the record- JK does not coach LFS White.  Michel Moritz, the head coach of Lake Highlands HS ( nationally ranked team) is their coach.  They play nothing close to parking the bus style, much more focused on possession.   The reality is that these teams are all compressing.  There is no story or drama here.  LFS White is playing platinum so they will be tested and vetted,  One game does not a season make.

TeamPlayer wrote:

dreadpirateroberts wrote:For the record- JK does not coach LFS White.  Michel Moritz, the head coach of Lake Highlands HS ( nationally ranked team) is their coach.  They play nothing close to parking the bus style, much more focused on possession.   The reality is that these teams are all compressing.  There is no story or drama here.  LFS White is playing platinum so they will be tested and vetted,  One game does not a season make.

He's one of the coaches at Bishop Lynch, another nationally ranked team.