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Post by SantaFe 23/09/14, 12:29 pm

D1
Andromeda West > Andromeda Blue thurs
Rush Azul >  Divas
Mutiny >  Solar Chelsea Royal
FC Dallas Black  =  FC Dallas East
Andromeda Blue > Texas Thunder
Andromeda West > Kosmos

D2
LP Owen > Celtic Nicholas   Tues
LP Dalglish = Saints    Thurs
LP Scott > McKinney Eclipse  Thurs
FC Dallas Red > Rush Cinza  Thurs
Texas Spirit > Celtic Nicholas
FC Dallas Red > McKinney Eclipse
Saints > Rush Cinza
LP Scott > WF Express
LP Owen > LP Dalglish

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Post by Whistler 24/09/14, 09:04 am

The Tuesday game snuck up on me.

D1
Andromeda West 3 > 1 Andromeda Blue
Rush Azul 2 > 0 Divas
Mutiny 3 > 1 Solar Chelsea Royal
FC Dallas Black 0 < FC Dallas East
Andromeda Blue 3 > 0 Texas Thunder
Andromeda West 3 > 1 Kosmos

D2
LP Owen > Celtic Nicholas (I was late, but would have picked Owen)
LP Dalglish 1 < 2 Saints (My emotional pick - In any case, this should be a good game)
LP Scott 3 > 0 McKinney Eclipse
FC Dallas Red 2 > 1 Rush Cinza
Texas Spirit 2 > 1 Celtic Nicholas
FC Dallas Red 3 > 0 McKinney Eclipse
Saints 4 > 0 Rush Cinza
LP Scott 1 < WF Express 2
LP Owen 3 > LP Dalglish 1

Good luck girls!

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Post by SantaFe 24/09/14, 11:50 am

Aha! Whistler still not a believer..... Smile

Re Scott/Eclipse game, I think that one is being rescheduled

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Post by you've got to be kidding 24/09/14, 12:45 pm

D1
Andromeda West Andromeda Blue thurs
Rush Azul Divas
Mutiny Solar Chelsea Royal
FC Dallas Black tie FC Dallas East
Andromeda Blue Texas Thunder
Andromeda West Kosmos

D2
LP Owen Celtic Nicholas Tues
LP Dalglish Saints Thurs
LP Scott tie McKinney Eclipse Thurs
FC Dallas Red forfeit by Rush Cinza Thurs no help from PYSA re-scheduling
Texas Spirit Celtic Nicholas
FC Dallas Red McKinney Eclipse
Saints Rush Cinza
LP Scott WF Express
LP Owen tie LP Dalglish

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Post by SoccerDad2002 24/09/14, 01:54 pm

D1
Andromeda West 3 vs. Andromeda Blue 1 (THU)
Rush Azul 0 vs. Divas 1
Mutiny 3 vs. Solar Chelsea Royal 1
FC Dallas Black 1 vs. FC Dallas East 1
Andromeda Blue 2 vs. Texas Thunder 0
Andromeda West 2 vs. Kosmos 1

D2
LP Owen 4 vs. Celtic Nicholas 1 (TUE)
***This is late, but I would have picked them too -- but don't count it, since I was late*** I would also add that very impressive for Celtic to keep it to a minimum vs. Owen. Coach McCallum has their team playing better & better each week it seems.

LP Dalglish 2 vs. Saints 1 (THU)
LP Scott 3 vs. McKinney Eclipse 0 (THU)
FC Dallas Red 2 vs. Rush Cinza 0 (THU)
Texas Spirit 1 vs. Celtic Nicholas 3
FC Dallas Red 2 vs. McKinney Eclipse 0
Saints 4 vs. Rush Cinza 0
LP Scott 0 vs. WF Express 2
LP Owen 1 vs. LP Dalglish 1

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Post by Liverpool_Scott_02G 24/09/14, 03:15 pm

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FC Dallas Red forfeit by Rush Cinza  Thurs  no help from PYSA re-scheduling

TGTBK:  PPL will allow for a reschedule request to be submitted to the league, @ $190 - and will work with you.  But it needs to be a formal request.  Have your manager/coach reach out to Tiffany Powell. It also has to be done 48 hours in advance to the game - which at this point, might be tough.

Our game vs McK Eclipse set for tomorrow is being moved and they are looking at options and openings.  In a perfect work, you need to find a team with a game you can swap with.  But have them reach out and see what can be done.  It is always such a shame to forfiet any games.

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Post by SoccerDad2002 24/09/14, 08:55 pm

Liverpool_Scott_02G wrote:

Our game vs McK Eclipse set for tomorrow is being moved and they are looking at options and openings.  

Good luck..
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Let me guess?  The lovely Middle School Volleyball games...where the schools force the kids to play for free, while the parents shell out money for the boys/girls to play competitive sports.

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Post by SantaFe 25/09/14, 10:15 am

I believe that is it. I think part of the problem, at least from our family personal experience, is that this is the first year for 02s to experience the conflict- and it wasn't necessarily on our radar. Our daughter made the team (tryouts were mandatory and she was not about to not try- she is really enjoying it) but we did not know what the schedule would be.

Fortunately she is on a team where most V-ball players have their games on non-practice/non-game nights (Mon). Other teams are not as fortunate and may have teams made up of players in school districts where Thursday nights are the v-ball game nights.

PPL should be aware of that. Seems like there should be better coordination between teams and the league, so they don't schedule teams on nights where majority of the girls from those teams have v-ball. Again, because this is a "mandatory" school thing and grades depend on it. If nothing else, when they are registering PPL teams, have them check a box on which weekday night is not doable.

I know it is a little extra work scheduling, but not impossible. Certainly easier ahead of time than after schedules come out.

One additional option (in conjunction with trying to schedule ahead of time) may be to build in an extra weekend into the schedule just for teams who are conflicted on a weekday. And teams understand they may have to even play two games that same day on Saturday, which is better than forfeiting.

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Post by fishonthepitch 25/09/14, 10:23 am

D1
Andromeda West v. Andromeda Blue Thurs
Rush Azul v. Divas
Mutiny v. Solar Chelsea Royal (TIE)
FC Dallas Black v.  FC Dallas East
Andromeda Blue v. Texas Thunder
Andromeda West v. Kosmos

D2
LP Owen v. Celtic Nicholas   Tues (n/a but I would have picked Owen)
LP Dalglish v. Saints    Thurs
LP Scott v. McKinney Eclipse Thurs
FC Dallas Red v. Rush Cinza  Thurs
Texas Spirit v. Celtic Nicholas
FC Dallas Red v. McKinney Eclipse (TIE)
Saints v. Rush Cinza
LP Scott v. WF Express
LP Owen v. LP Dalglish

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Post by SantaFe 25/09/14, 10:45 am

Re the scheduling issue above, I note the PPL 2 has 3 games scheduled on one Thursday, one game on a Tuesday, and one game on two Sundays (to accomodate the Wichita Falls team who has to travel a lot).

There are so few games non-Saturday, that it seems it would be an easy matter ahead of scheduling to just slot them on days according to their preference. (e.g., assuming only those three days are choices, have each team rank their preference for days between Sun, Tues, Thurs.)

"ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" as a famous Liverpool player said once, I believe .  Smile

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Post by Liverpool_Scott_02G 25/09/14, 11:08 am

You know - it's tough and I see it from both sides.  If Plano had to work around all these MS Athletics schedules, I'm not sure we would ever get the season done - however, if teams were asked who COULD play on weekdays and which nights, there would be a way to only schedule those teams.  For example, we can play Tues/Thurs.  PLano doesn't do Mon/Fri games.  So all that's left are Tues-Thurs.  Thurs seem by far the toughest for teams - but my girls all have their long session until 5:30/6:00 on those nights.  AND I have 1 player unavailable ANY thurs - training or games due to a GRADE for a VB game!! A greade which is attendance based is not a grade, is it? You would think Club soccer, year round would exempt these kids from athletics - but I digress.

Or, perhaps as LH and Classic do, they start in mid/late August - while Plano goes after their Labor Day tourney.  If we started in Aug and only had (or majority) weekend games, that might be an potion at this age group moving forward.  Again - I see it from both sides.

In the end, it's great for the girls to play MS Athletics, even though it impacts all of this.  They play soccer year round and I am "happy" to work around MS - In the end, as it should be with soccer, it is about the kids.  Is it a pain - sure.  But it will pass and more conflicts will arise and we will all work through those as well.  Wait until MS Soccer comes up - or worse - they start getting hurt during MS Athletics and can't play for their club teams..  We've already had one player who's out for 3-4 weeks with injury sustained during athletics..  

Good luck this weekend everyone.
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Post by Guest 25/09/14, 11:16 am

Perhaps we should prioritize this league over our other commitments? Schedule conflicts do not exist in our family, because this league comes first. Period.

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Post by SantaFe 25/09/14, 11:24 am

That's an awesome idea, in theory! Smile

unfortunately, in the real world, prioritizing doesn't mean no conflicts.   In fact, prioritizing is a necessity exactly BECAUSE of conflicts.   Suggesting that all people prioritize soccer is pretty naiive.  There are a thousand different situations for people.

Teams are trying to limit the fallout (forfeits) from their priority choices.

For example, saying our daughters are not going to play volleyball because it would conflict with one soccer game out of the year would be foolish, in my opinion. Therefore, the next step is to come up with a system that can better accomodate.


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Post by Guest 25/09/14, 11:30 am

It's not a theory or an idea. It's a way of life. Conflicts no longer exist once you have prioritized your commitments. If soccer = 1, there are never conflicts. We play soccer. If that means we miss volleyball, so be it. If that means we get kicked off the team, so be it. Soccer should always be top priority IMO.

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Post by SantaFe 25/09/14, 11:41 am

I didn't say your own heirarchy of priorities is a theory. I said that the idea that everyone could/would have such a priority sounds great in theory.

Big difference. In the real world, it doesn't work that way. I consider myself a reasonable and tolerant person, and I could not disagree more with your setting soccer as the ultimate priority. I'm sure there are a lot of soccer-loving even soccer-OBSESSED folks who would agree with me.

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Post by Guest 25/09/14, 11:46 am

SantaFe wrote:I didn't say your own heirarchy of priorities is a theory.  I said that the idea that everyone could/would have such a priority sounds great in theory.

Big difference.  In the real world, it doesn't work that way.  I consider myself a reasonable and tolerant person, and I could not disagree more with your setting soccer as the ultimate priority.  I'm sure there are a lot of soccer-loving even soccer-OBSESSED folks who would agree with me.

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Post by SantaFe 25/09/14, 12:00 pm

That was funny! Smile

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Post by SoccerDad2002 25/09/14, 12:49 pm

I think that kids should play more than one sport. Not only do others say it makes them better overall, but also shows them other options. If they have always played soccer, basketball, etc and never tried something else, they actually might find another 'love'. It also gets them the opportunity to meet additional players/friends. Those that like soccer, might not like volleyball/basketball/track and vice versa.

My issue stems with the schools. (A) it shouldn't be mandatory and (B) since games and practices occur after school, grades should not be included on whether or not they show up. We have several that skip soccer practice to go to their VBall practice/games. So be it; at least they are staying active and out of trouble. We haven't had a THU night game yet, so we'll see what happens.

Along with that, with 6 teams in the 02 PPL D2, we'll see how many girls show up to their games.

As far as it relates to PYSA being more accommodating, in talking to one of the Managers that has a PPL team, they only looked at Plano schools (which I think play on MON's) and no others. My thoughts, they shouldn't look at any school districts, like LH does. LH says they'll play TUE-THU and don't look at any school districts/cities.

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Post by Whistler 26/09/14, 06:13 pm

I'm not aware of any schools requiring our children to enroll in "Athletics". They have the option of Athletics or Physical Education. Athletics is for kids that want to participate in school sports, PE is for those who don't. In my DD's school, for each Semester you enroll in Athletics you must participate in 1 sport. Since Middle School sports are typically a feeder program for High School sports, I don't blame them for making the games mandatory - especially since enrolling in Athletics is optional. Why shouldn't Middle School Volleyball or Basketball, or any other sport be just as important as Club soccer.

Regarding the PYSA scheduling, I don't like week night games either, but we deal with it. I guess another good option would be if PYSA would only schedule weeknight games for teams below Middle School age. Middle school kids seem to have the most schedule conflicts.

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