U9 Prime Time Tournament

don't worry tmcc, soccerskills and coach cs are old buds. he's no trouble maker.

i think we'll have to stick to the standard unis per ntx rules. i would however like to see the silver and black go through; just purely as a community service. i mean, does every team in ntx have to be RED?? it's gotten out of control. we need a system like getting a liquor license where there is an approval board and limits. can you see it?? "no, i'm sorry new club x, we have reached out quota of 335 red soccer teams in tarrant county. you can either be yellow or go to denton."

bobmac15 wrote:don't worry tmcc, soccerskills and coach cs are old buds. he's no trouble maker.

i think we'll have to stick to the standard unis per ntx rules. i would however like to see the silver and black go through; just purely as a community service. i mean, does every team in ntx have to be RED?? it's gotten out of control. we need a system like getting a liquor license where there is an approval board and limits. can you see it?? "no, i'm sorry new club x, we have reached out quota of 335 red soccer teams in tarrant county. you can either be yellow or go to denton."

A simple yet outstanding observation. We need to add some different colors into the mix.

Black and gold? 2.0 version! I would need a good keeper coach though. Tondo?

so lets get back to the bracket. where is ap pollster? ranked teams all season but no predictions yet. i think rowdies are just gamers and cant be counted out; kat always brings her kids ready to play; and fcd is loaded. dont see glotz in the finals. roid is that a homer pick?

bobmac15 wrote:so lets get back to the bracket. where is ap pollster? ranked teams all season but no predictions yet. i think rowdies are just gamers and cant be counted out; kat always brings her kids ready to play; and fcd is loaded. dont see glotz in the finals. roid is that a homer pick?

I'm here. Just worried about posting with all the Nazi's and KGB on here now. Did ya see? My avatar made "the list". Apparently, my choice in avatar makes me either clueless or perverted.

AP Pollster wrote:

bobmac15 wrote:so lets get back to the bracket. where is ap pollster? ranked teams all season but no predictions yet. i think rowdies are just gamers and cant be counted out; kat always brings her kids ready to play; and fcd is loaded. dont see glotz in the finals. roid is that a homer pick?

I'm here. Just worried about posting with all the Nazi's and KGB on here now.

i knew you were lurking. i was more intersted in getting your avatar back on here than your opinion.

now i'm not making excuses, but my dds birthday is this weekend and she and the rest of the team are going out to the glass cactus to see brett michaels friday night so i'm not sure what kindof shape they'll be in for the first game.

AP Pollster wrote:

bobmac15 wrote:so lets get back to the bracket. where is ap pollster? ranked teams all season but no predictions yet. i think rowdies are just gamers and cant be counted out; kat always brings her kids ready to play; and fcd is loaded. dont see glotz in the finals. roid is that a homer pick?

I'm here. Just worried about posting with all the Nazi's and KGB on here now. Did ya see? My avatar made "the list". Apparently, my choice in avatar makes me either clueless or perverted.

oh now i'm confused. i didn't think it perverted or clueless. i thought it was a picture of you.

signed, disapointed in dallas.

AP Pollster wrote:

bobmac15 wrote:so lets get back to the bracket. where is ap pollster? ranked teams all season but no predictions yet. i think rowdies are just gamers and cant be counted out; kat always brings her kids ready to play; and fcd is loaded. dont see glotz in the finals. roid is that a homer pick?

I'm here. Just worried about posting with all the Nazi's and KGB on here now. Did ya see? My avatar made "the list". Apparently, my choice in avatar makes me either clueless or perverted.

I noticed in your avatar she's holding her phone with no hands. It is a phone right? Im not a perv Im was just wondering if her phone was a 3G phone or 4G, thats all.

Here we go my amigos............its an FCD v SRSA final
FCD has added AGAIN and it's finally too much to handle. The Webb long ball style may help expose the weaker FCD defense, but it wont be enough for the victory.

Rowdies v FU for third and the Rowdies come out on top by a small margin.

*note to FCD- if you guys don't win this tournament y'all need to take a long, hard look at your coach (just my opinion). You guys are frickin' Real Madrid and their is no Barca like opponent because the girls are just to young to be technically good enough to pull that off. The stage is yours.........for a few years anyway. (just my fun-loving opinion)

Semis: SRSA vs. FCD and Rowdies vs. Glotz
Final: SRSA vs. Rowdies
Consolation: FCD vs. Glotz

Winner: SRSA
Third: FCD

There is no question that FCD has more individual talent than the other three three teams at this point. However, it is a team sport and on a big field, size, speed, and teamwork (passing) will matter more at this point in their development. If FCD players stay together for a year or so, they will be the top dog (similar to Solar Red Bates '01) but at this point, they will struggle to finish (goals). FCD coach/parents need to be patient. I disagree on the comment about the coach. No coach can teach teamwork and team chemistry that quickly.

Ok.....I need 01 parents to chime in. since when does Grubb coach a posession style game like Bates? I could be ignorant on this, so help me out. But if I remember correctly its much more direct. Threw balls and angles, but straight forward. Notice that I did not say kickball, that's different.

Grubb, like any of the top Academy coaches, teaches possession but takes advantage of strengths of the players to win. For '01s, he has two fast and aggressive "energizer bunny" forwards. So, their offense is predominately fast breaks and counter attacks. If you take a look at his mids, they play possession soccer. For '02s, his stars are more skills centric who are quick but not that fast (they do not have long legs or physical size at this point). So, their attacking style will be more controlled and possession oriented. Just my opinion based on watching them play.

bobmac15 wrote:so lets get back to the bracket. where is ap pollster? ranked teams all season but no predictions yet. i think rowdies are just gamers and cant be counted out; kat always brings her kids ready to play; and fcd is loaded. dont see glotz in the finals. roid is that a homer pick?

Gamers- what the heck does that mean? lol Really tho I have no clue what a gamer is.

happygilmore wrote:

bobmac15 wrote:so lets get back to the bracket. where is ap pollster? ranked teams all season but no predictions yet. i think rowdies are just gamers and cant be counted out; kat always brings her kids ready to play; and fcd is loaded. dont see glotz in the finals. roid is that a homer pick?

Gamers- what the heck does that mean? lol Really tho I have no clue what a gamer is.

Gamer, a player who comes out and brings it for the full game, hustle, heart, etc. with no quit. At least that is what I refer to as a gamer. Not sure if Bobmac agrees. The 3rd game in pool B could be interesting and the deciding factor on who wins pool B. It will be the 3rd game for both SRSA and Glotz. Looks like the weather should be nice.

wxyz wrote:Grubb, like any of the top Academy coaches, teaches possession but takes advantage of strengths of the players to win. For '01s, he has two fast and aggressive "energizer bunny" forwards. So, their offense is predominately fast breaks and counter attacks. If you take a look at his mids, they play possession soccer. For '02s, his stars are more skills centric who are quick but not that fast (they do not have long legs or physical size at this point). So, their attacking style will be more controlled and possession oriented. Just my opinion based on watching them play.

Cues a team plays possession soccer:

Passes frequently head sideways or backwards.

Defenders sometimes pass to other defenders.

Defenders frequently pass to mids.

Mids frequently pass to defenders and to other mids.

Forwards sometimes pass.


Cues a team plays route 1 direct:

Passes and dribbles mostly str8 to goal.

Defenders pass to forwards

Mids pass to forwards

Forwards don't pass.


Cues a team plays kickball:

Defenders boot in general direction of forwards

Mids boot in general direction of forwards

Forwards always go str8 to goal.

Slater, thanks! That's how I see it. I don't think the 02's have a posession team in the top 4 spots. Anyone disagree?

SdadX2 wrote:

happygilmore wrote:

bobmac15 wrote:so lets get back to the bracket. where is ap pollster? ranked teams all season but no predictions yet. i think rowdies are just gamers and cant be counted out; kat always brings her kids ready to play; and fcd is loaded. dont see glotz in the finals. roid is that a homer pick?

Gamers- what the heck does that mean? lol Really tho I have no clue what a gamer is.

Gamer, a player who comes out and brings it for the full game, hustle, heart, etc. with no quit. At least that is what I refer to as a gamer. Not sure if Bobmac agrees. The 3rd game in pool B could be interesting and the deciding factor on who wins pool B. It will be the 3rd game for both SRSA and Glotz. Looks like the weather should be nice.

yes, this is what i meant. i don't know if there is a formal definition. it is a complimentary term. often someone is consiidered a gamer when thier performance elevates proportionatley to the stakes, such as elway in the super bowl or cliff lee in the world series. i definatley did not mean computer nerd gamer.

AP Pollster wrote:Slater, thanks! That's how I see it. I don't think the 02's have a posession team in the top 4 spots. Anyone disagree?

Based on MSlater's description, don't disagree. I see a lot of Cat 2 with the added defenders to mid passes from Cat 1. Some teams show it more than others. Judging by the games I've seen, some on here are to critical of certain teams and praise others more than what I've seen.

AP Pollster wrote:Slater, thanks! That's how I see it. I don't think the 02's have a posession team in the top 4 spots. Anyone disagree?

You're welcome

But to be honest most games I've seen between top 5 '01s don't have a ton of possession soccer. Maybe it's because the game is so fast the girls can't do it at the pressurized, ultra high pace you see when two top teams face off.

I've even seen brief periods where outright kickball broke out, but it becomes mostly about matchups and 1v1 battles and girls pitting their individual skills against each other.

I've seen SOME of those same teams, with the same girls, dismantle lower tier opponents with beautiful game team soccer to the fullest.

Caught on video U10 girls start build up from a center back passing to an outside defender and then string 8 passes together before a forward played through to a streaking opposite field outside mid who buried ball in back of net. Goal was great but the build up was a thing of beauty.

The ultra direct teams appear to play the same direct soccer no matter who they're playing - great environment for forwards, the mids and defenders on the other hand?

SdadX2 wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:Slater, thanks! That's how I see it. I don't think the 02's have a posession team in the top 4 spots. Anyone disagree?

Based on MSlater's description, don't disagree. I see a lot of Cat 2 with the added defenders to mid passes from Cat 1. Some teams show it more than others. Judging by the games I've seen, some on here are to critical of certain teams and praise others more than what I've seen.

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SdadX2 wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:Slater, thanks! That's how I see it. I don't think the 02's have a posession team in the top 4 spots. Anyone disagree?

Based on MSlater's description, don't disagree. I see a lot of Cat 2 with the added defenders to mid passes from Cat 1. Some teams show it more than others. Judging by the games I've seen, some on here are to critical of certain teams and praise others more than what I've seen.

I dont see any full games of possesion soccer but I definately see glimpses and more glimpses as the girls get older and use the whole field, and are more comfortable with their teammates.

AP Pollster wrote:Slater, thanks! That's how I see it. I don't think the 02's have a posession team in the top 4 spots. Anyone disagree?

I'll disagree slightly. My DD's '01 team (DT North R. Hollis) played SRSA Webb '02 in a tourney a couple of weeks ago. There were definitely possession elements in Webb's game. Definitely not kickball, and not really Route 1 direct either. They do rely quite a bit on 1-v-1 skills vs. true 1-touch then pass possession style, but once they use 1-v-1 to get clear of an opposing player, they are looking to make the pass. By the way, that's to their advantage, as they are a VERY skilled 1-v-1 team.

Actually, that's a lot of what I see from teams that try to play a possession game at this age. There seems to be more emphasis on developing 1-v-1 skills and physicality, than developing proper receiving, trapping, and passing techniques that would be required to play a "true" possession game. The girls try to receive the ball, control it and make an accurate pass, but just don't have the ability to do so, especially under pressure. So it ends up in a situation where they have to use ball skills and "muscle" to win a 1-v-1 battle, get in the clear and then look for the pass.

bwgophers wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:Slater, thanks! That's how I see it. I don't think the 02's have a posession team in the top 4 spots. Anyone disagree?

I'll disagree slightly. My DD's '01 team (DT North R. Hollis) played SRSA Webb '02 in a tourney a couple of weeks ago. There were definitely possession elements in Webb's game. Definitely not kickball, and not really Route 1 direct either. They do rely quite a bit on 1-v-1 skills vs. true 1-touch then pass possession style, but once they use 1-v-1 to get clear of an opposing player, they are looking to make the pass. By the way, that's to their advantage, as they are a VERY skilled 1-v-1 team.

Actually, that's a lot of what I see from teams that try to play a possession game at this age. There seems to be more emphasis on developing 1-v-1 skills and physicality, than developing proper receiving, trapping, and passing techniques that would be required to play a "true" possession game. The girls try to receive the ball, control it and make an accurate pass, but just don't have the ability to do so, especially under pressure. So it ends up in a situation where they have to use ball skills and "muscle" to win a 1-v-1 battle, get in the clear and then look for the pass.

This is pretty much on point. I'd add that a true possession game requires both 1v1 skills to relieve pressure and the ability to make quick decisions and passes. The bigger difference between direct only teams and teams that can play possession is what girls routinely do who don't have the ball.

bwgophers wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:Slater, thanks! That's how I see it. I don't think the 02's have a posession team in the top 4 spots. Anyone disagree?

I'll disagree slightly. My DD's '01 team (DT North R. Hollis) played SRSA Webb '02 in a tourney a couple of weeks ago. There were definitely possession elements in Webb's game. Definitely not kickball, and not really Route 1 direct either. They do rely quite a bit on 1-v-1 skills vs. true 1-touch then pass possession style, but once they use 1-v-1 to get clear of an opposing player, they are looking to make the pass. By the way, that's to their advantage, as they are a VERY skilled 1-v-1 team.

Actually, that's a lot of what I see from teams that try to play a possession game at this age. There seems to be more emphasis on developing 1-v-1 skills and physicality, than developing proper receiving, trapping, and passing techniques that would be required to play a "true" possession game. The girls try to receive the ball, control it and make an accurate pass, but just don't have the ability to do so, especially under pressure. So it ends up in a situation where they have to use ball skills and "muscle" to win a 1-v-1 battle, get in the clear and then look for the pass.

Finally. You guys, these girls are 9. Stop watching FOX Soccer so much. Holy cow. It's like you expect these 9 year olds to be able to connect 20 passes together with 15 of them being a one touch. The expectations many of you have for your daughters team and coach are just unrealistic RIGHT NOW. They are still learning so much and if you think your daughter knows it all, then how does she get better from here on out. It is a HUGE learning process. You have to develop individual skill at an early age and then move on to team tactics. These girls are still young and learning individual skill. Teams are just getting into tactical stuff. There is a method to teaching it and if you think your coach can teach these girls to play like Barcelona at 9, then you have been watching too much La Liga. Be patient and let the coaches do their jobs. The girls are learning and they are going to make mistakes,.... like just kicking the ball under pressure, standing and watching, playing the ball in the air instead of on the ground. But they will learn from their mistakes.

Stop being so critical and sit back enjoy the flashes of brilliance. Then see how those flashes of brilliance go from twice a game to three times a game, ad so on. It is so much fun to look for the positive.

tmcc wrote:]Finally. You guys, these girls are 9. Stop watching FOX Soccer so much. Holy cow. It's like you expect these 9 year olds to be able to connect 20 passes together with 15 of them being a one touch. The expectations many of you have for your daughters team and coach are just unrealistic RIGHT NOW. They are still learning so much and if you think your daughter knows it all, then how does she get better from here on out. It is a HUGE learning process. You have to develop individual skill at an early age and then move on to team tactics. These girls are still young and learning individual skill. Teams are just getting into tactical stuff. There is a method to teaching it and if you think your coach can teach these girls to play like Barcelona at 9, then you have been watching too much La Liga. Be patient and let the coaches do their jobs. The girls are learning and they are going to make mistakes,.... like just kicking the ball under pressure, standing and watching, playing the ball in the air instead of on the ground. But they will learn from their mistakes.

Stop being so critical and sit back enjoy the flashes of brilliance. Then see how those flashes of brilliance go from twice a game to three times a game, ad so on. It is so much fun to look for the positive.

Great post.

bwgophers wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:Slater, thanks! That's how I see it. I don't think the 02's have a posession team in the top 4 spots. Anyone disagree?

I'll disagree slightly. My DD's '01 team (DT North R. Hollis) played SRSA Webb '02 in a tourney a couple of weeks ago. There were definitely possession elements in Webb's game. Definitely not kickball, and not really Route 1 direct either. They do rely quite a bit on 1-v-1 skills vs. true 1-touch then pass possession style, but once they use 1-v-1 to get clear of an opposing player, they are looking to make the pass. By the way, that's to their advantage, as they are a VERY skilled 1-v-1 team.

Actually, that's a lot of what I see from teams that try to play a possession game at this age. There seems to be more emphasis on developing 1-v-1 skills and physicality, than developing proper receiving, trapping, and passing techniques that would be required to play a "true" possession game. The girls try to receive the ball, control it and make an accurate pass, but just don't have the ability to do so, especially under pressure. So it ends up in a situation where they have to use ball skills and "muscle" to win a 1-v-1 battle, get in the clear and then look for the pass.

You should watch her '03 SRSA team. They play with the same possession type of game. Many passess, one touches, pass the ball back to goal and restart, etc. The '03 team does not have near the size the '02 girls have so that may be why our girls run around more and pass the ball quickly.

Not trying to stir the pot or brag about our team. Just VERY proud of what my DD and her team has accomplished at this age this early.