'02 FBR Rankings - 8/30/11

Current as of 8/30/11 - Includes results from Week 1 TGPL

• FCD Premier remains on top - undefeated since May. Last time it was even close way a draw vs Rowdies in May. Can they be beat? Who will take them down?

• With only 1 win (vs Southlake Saints) in 4 months - Fever Red drops 3 spots to #12. They are looking to add one to the win column this weekend in Plano U10 Gold division.

• Polaris drops one spot to #8. They are in the same bracket as Dynamo and DT South this weekend in Plano U10 Gold division. Will they remain in the top 10 after it's all said and done?

Thanks 02dad

Thank you 02dad

02Dad,

I do not remember Fever Red playing Southlake Saints. I could be wrong. Our one win against an 02 team is against DT South. Do scrimmages against the higher ranked Fever White count?

tmcc wrote:02Dad,

I do not remember Fever Red playing Southlake Saints. I could be wrong. Our one win against an 02 team is against DT South. Do scrimmages against the higher ranked Fever White count?

Primetime Cup - May 15th...
http://www.primetimefiles.com/pdf/5.13.11.TX.CARROLLTON.U9GG.pdf

Pool B 4th place (Fever) vs Southlake Saints. Has Fever winning 3-0. Did that game actually get played or did Southlake forfeit?

When did you play DT South. (If it was prior to May, it's not included in FBR)

tmcc wrote:02Dad,

I do not remember Fever Red playing Southlake Saints. I could be wrong. Our one win against an 02 team is against DT South. Do scrimmages against the higher ranked Fever White count?

It is going to take some time/games for the data to give a more realistic picture of true W/L rankings

soccerskills wrote:

tmcc wrote:02Dad,

I do not remember Fever Red playing Southlake Saints. I could be wrong. Our one win against an 02 team is against DT South. Do scrimmages against the higher ranked Fever White count?

It is going to take some time/games for the data to give a more realistic picture of true W/L rankings

Yeah, but you know when all those fever parents see these rankings, their furr will be ruffled and they will be on here bitching about it. Just wait...

Txfutboldad wrote:

soccerskills wrote:

tmcc wrote:02Dad,

I do not remember Fever Red playing Southlake Saints. I could be wrong. Our one win against an 02 team is against DT South. Do scrimmages against the higher ranked Fever White count?

It is going to take some time/games for the data to give a more realistic picture of true W/L rankings

Yeah, but you know when all those fever parents see these rankings, their furr will be ruffled and they will be on here bitching about it. Just wait...

to clarify, yes the game against the saints was played. the game against dt south may not have been reported since it was in an 01 league.

as far as the bitchin and the ruffles, my phone is ringing; i have already tried to explain to a few people how the system works and that our team has no data. and that 02dad is doing a fine job and should not be killed and it is for fun anyway. hope it helps.

bobmac15 wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

soccerskills wrote:

tmcc wrote:02Dad,

I do not remember Fever Red playing Southlake Saints. I could be wrong. Our one win against an 02 team is against DT South. Do scrimmages against the higher ranked Fever White count?

It is going to take some time/games for the data to give a more realistic picture of true W/L rankings

Yeah, but you know when all those fever parents see these rankings, their furr will be ruffled and they will be on here bitching about it. Just wait...

to clarify, yes the game against the saints was played. the game against dt south may not have been reported since it was in an 01 league.

as far as the bitchin and the ruffles, my phone is ringing; i have already tried to explain to a few people how the system works and that our team has no data. and that 02dad is doing a fine job and should not be killed and it is for fun anyway. hope it helps.

Thanks for canceling the hit on my family.

Bobmac,

No one has called me. My feelings are a bit hurt.

I enjoy and appreciate the rankings. I kinda like being the underdog too.

Think we can get points for that 5v5 futsal tournament last Sunday?

why is waco lady blast playing in Arlington Labor Day?

What is the formula used to derrive these rankings?

oldboot wrote:What is the formula used to derrive these rankings?

Probably a Fever parent.

oldboot wrote:What is the formula used to derrive these rankings?

Its the same formula they use in the BSC" Collage football ".

Txfutboldad wrote:

oldboot wrote:What is the formula used to derrive these rankings?

Probably a Fever parent.

No, not trying to stir anything up, just curious.

Thanks 02Dad. One thing, FC Dallas 02G Barakat won all 4 games in the tourney this last weekend. The tourney directors made that change Tuesday afternoon sometime.

oldboot wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

oldboot wrote:What is the formula used to derrive these rankings?

Probably a Fever parent.

No, not trying to stir anything up, just curious.

I don't think its a Fever parent. Bob said he was on the phone all morning explaining it.

tmcc wrote:

oldboot wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

oldboot wrote:What is the formula used to derrive these rankings?

Probably a Fever parent.

No, not trying to stir anything up, just curious.

I don't think its a Fever parent. Bob said he was on the phone all morning explaining it.

Yeah but that could be just one phone call.

RedBull wrote:why is waco lady blast playing in Arlington Labor Day?

Probably because their forwards are with DT south!

tmcc wrote:

oldboot wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

oldboot wrote:What is the formula used to derrive these rankings?

Probably a Fever parent.

No, not trying to stir anything up, just curious.

I don't think its a Fever parent. Bob said he was on the phone all morning explaining it.

Maybe he should post a link to an explanation page at the bottom of his rankings. That way he'd get less questions from parents with too much time on their hands or those who are overly obsessed with why their 9 year old's soccer team wasn't ranked higher on an internet chat board.

oldboot wrote:

tmcc wrote:

oldboot wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

oldboot wrote:What is the formula used to derrive these rankings?

Probably a Fever parent.

No, not trying to stir anything up, just curious.

I don't think its a Fever parent. Bob said he was on the phone all morning explaining it.

Maybe he should post a link to an explanation page at the bottom of his rankings. That way he'd get less questions from parents with too much time on their hands or those who are overly obsessed with why their 9 year old's soccer team wasn't ranked higher on an internet chat board.

In all seriousness, I thought it was a trick question...

Like "Who is David May?"

The FBR is not a new concept on txsoccer.net. If you want to know more about it search the forums. Mr bwgophers who came before me has explained how this works and I've changed nothing in the calculations.

02Dad wrote:

oldboot wrote:

tmcc wrote:

oldboot wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

oldboot wrote:What is the formula used to derrive these rankings?

Probably a Fever parent.

No, not trying to stir anything up, just curious.

I don't think its a Fever parent. Bob said he was on the phone all morning explaining it.

Maybe he should post a link to an explanation page at the bottom of his rankings. That way he'd get less questions from parents with too much time on their hands or those who are overly obsessed with why their 9 year old's soccer team wasn't ranked higher on an internet chat board.

In all seriousness, I thought it was a trick question...

Like "Who is David May?"

The FBR is not a new concept on txsoccer.net. If you want to know more about it search the forums. Mr bwgophers who came before me has explained how this works and I've changed nothing in the calculations.

Thank you 02Dad for the time you put into this! It was difficult but I searched Rankings and there it was : http://www.txsoccer.net/t5555-initial-02-girls-fbr-rankings?highlight=rankings

justsayin02 wrote:

02Dad wrote:

oldboot wrote:

tmcc wrote:

oldboot wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

oldboot wrote:What is the formula used to derrive these rankings?

Probably a Fever parent.

No, not trying to stir anything up, just curious.

I don't think its a Fever parent. Bob said he was on the phone all morning explaining it.

Maybe he should post a link to an explanation page at the bottom of his rankings. That way he'd get less questions from parents with too much time on their hands or those who are overly obsessed with why their 9 year old's soccer team wasn't ranked higher on an internet chat board.

In all seriousness, I thought it was a trick question...

Like "Who is David May?"

The FBR is not a new concept on txsoccer.net. If you want to know more about it search the forums. Mr bwgophers who came before me has explained how this works and I've changed nothing in the calculations.

Thank you 02Dad for the time you put into this! It was difficult but I searched Rankings and there it was : http://www.txsoccer.net/t5555-initial-02-girls-fbr-rankings?highlight=rankings

Short Answer...

FBR is a computer formula based ranking that uses a combination of W/L/D record, Margin of Victory (MoV), and Strength of Schedule (SoS). It uses a commercially available SW package called FootballRankulator that we have adapted to the purpose of ranking 8-10 yr. old girls soccer teams in NTX (hence the name FBR).

The W/L/D and SoS ranking components employ a weighting system where results against "stronger" opponents count more than results against "weaker" opponents.

The weighting factors are controlled by assigning teams to ranking "tiers". The ranking tier assignment is based solely on a team's performance against other teams, and allowed to change over time based on that team's continued performance.

This is a highly simplified explanation. There are many details under the surface that aren't discussed in great detail here.

If you want to know more about the nitty-gritty details, best suggestion is to go to footballrankulator.com, plunk down $30 and buy a copy of the SW. 02Dad or myself will gladly send you a copy of the files used to compile the '02 rankings.

i know this "how it works" thing has been beat to death with explanations, but as more and more people lose their jobs and join the soccer forum to maintain a purpose in life, they have missed the previous explanations.

possibly you (02dad) could embed a link to the "here's how it works" documentation with each new generation of the grid. i don't know your software, but maybe there is a place to put a link in the header of your report? it might minimize the questions and death threats. just trying to be helpful.

Txfutboldad wrote:

soccerskills wrote:

tmcc wrote:02Dad,

I do not remember Fever Red playing Southlake Saints. I could be wrong. Our one win against an 02 team is against DT South. Do scrimmages against the higher ranked Fever White count?

It is going to take some time/games for the data to give a more realistic picture of true W/L rankings

Yeah, but you know when all those fever parents see these rankings, their furr will be ruffled and they will be on here bitching about it. Just wait...

Honestly, I don't think I have seen a post by a fever parent complaining about anything other than last years Plano tournament when they were scheduled for a 7:30 am game