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Xara wrote:bwgophers wrote:Xara wrote:By the way, what made you decide the people betting in the video were drug dealers and mostly criminals versus just parents too caught up in their kids' sport? Ahem.
Oh, I dunno Xara... perhaps it was this quote in the article...
Ron Thurston, 34, who has been a head coach in the league since 2005 and is a Broward County sheriff's deputy, estimates that about a fourth of the crowd at games is criminals.
"And that's a lot to be around kids," he said. He recalled an incident when an off-duty detective alerted him to a guy who was threatening to shoot a coach. When Thurston got to him, "sure enough, he has a loaded gun on him, a 9-millimeter, one in the chamber."
or maybe it was this quote...
"Just to be straightforward, these guys, they're drug dealers who are doing this gambling," he said. "They're the only guys that have this type of money to bet on little kids."
...don't know how anyone could draw such a wild conclusion... (again, three for extra emphasis just for Xara...)
Sorry, BW, I didn't realize you were 3-4-3's spokesperson. 3-4-3 made the statement "participants who are mostly criminals". "A fourth of the crowd at games" is not mostly criminals. Be sure to get your references right if you're going to carry the torch for another poster.
Um yes it is. And a staggering number to be around children. Your boat has sunk xara on this one....
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Gambling problem is a relative term. To quote Charles Barkley, "Do I have a gambling problem? I do have a gambling problem, but it's not really a problem because I can afford to gamble."my2cents wrote:bigtex75081 wrote:I don't think that's much of a stretch.silentparent wrote:that's a stretch even for you. drinking and getting high on the sidelines ,betting? puleezeXara wrote:Not shocking at all. How often have we seen charts, power rankings, and extensive reviews of even academy level teams right here on this forum? People genuinely get that caught up in their kids' sports. And then they defend it.Hook It wrote:Very sad exploitation of youth sports. Not really shocking though, which is also sad.
There's another string going on the boys' board right now about seeding for the Texans DC Qualifier Tournament. "Higher ranked" folks are going back and forth about where their kid's team ranks and how they shouldn't be compelled to play "lower ranked" teams that haven't earned a shot at DC. The "lower ranked" folks are firing back that they deserve a shot at the DC invitation and to settle it on the field. On that string people are saying a lot of stupid crap. They're getting way too high on youth soccer.
All it would take from here is somebody to say, "You sure do talk big. Do you wanna bet on that?" BANG! You've suddenly opened the door to the exact same thing (an illegal gambling ring) happening here in NTX.
What is a strEtch is using that string to make your argument. That thread is about the qualifier being advertised as a way to get in the DC and then the making of two divisions, one not in the qualifier. It is about what is percieved as a bait and switch. the other issue is about a small indy thinking they deserve a shot, some posters agree, some do not.
Bottom line, if you think it would not be a strectch to see gambling happpen on select soccer then you think many of the parents of such have or are prone to gambling problems. A false premise which collapses the whole arguement.
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Re: Next Step in NTX youth soccer?
Xara wrote:
Sorry, BW, I didn't realize you were 3-4-3's spokesperson. 3-4-3 made the statement "participants who are mostly criminals". "A fourth of the crowd at games" is not mostly criminals. Be sure to get your references right if you're going to carry the torch for another poster.
This reminds me of one of those sleazy campaign ads where a politician dices up the words of an opponent before sneakily using them out of context. The "participants" I was referring to were the people participating in open gambling on pee wee football. The article indicated they were drug dealers. Thus I referred to them as "criminals".
Since I know your reading comprehension is stellar, I'll just chalk it up to you having an off day. Normally your arguments have a sliver of truth in the midst of all the noise...apparently - just not today.
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Xara wrote:silentparent wrote:Xara wrote:Hook It wrote:Very sad exploitation of youth sports. Not really shocking though, which is also sad.
Not shocking at all. How often have we seen charts, power rankings, and extensive reviews of even academy level teams right here on this forum? People genuinely get that caught up in their kids' sports. And then they defend it.
that's a stretch even for you. drinking and getting high on the sidelines ,betting? puleeze
A stretch? Really? How often do parents get into cussing matches or even fist fights over kids' sports? Is that not worse than gambling? And I hear of dads who regularly offer their daughters money to score or even put another player on her butt in a game when they have an axe to grind. Betting is the next logical step in the degradation of children's sports. It might not be quite so blatant as the high class individuals featured in the video. But I could easily see someone on here creating a "Fantasy LHGCL Soccer League" rife with an entry fee and stats on top scorers, injuries, etc.
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