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Post by Busby Babes 14/02/13, 11:50 pm

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KnKsDad wrote:WEEK 2 23-Feb-13

8:00 AM DSP 4 9v9 U9G Sting East 04G Chacon vs DT Academy 04G City Scott-DeLeon

9:15 AM Blue Sky 3 9v9 U9G FC Xtreme 04G Blue Alvarez vs LFCA 04G Redknapp Springate

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6:00 PM Blue Sky 4 9v9 U9G DT Academy South 04G Adames vs Texas Spirit Jr 04G Clark

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these are next weeks games

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Solar Kennington vs Liverpool Dalglish

Yea I think this game is a bit more interesting in that I don't recall seeing Kennington play a top 04 team in a while, at least age pure.

My gut says the Spirit - South game will be more competitive though.

I believe LP Dalglish is one up on Solar Kennington. They played in TFC tourney this past Dec. LP Dalglish won 3-1.

Didn't Dalglish score 2 in extra time though, to give them the win.. I suspect a diff outcome this next match.

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Post by soccercircus 15/02/13, 06:15 am

Busby Babes wrote:
4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:
Shelby427 wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
WestsideSoccer wrote:
GinkoBiloba11 wrote:

SDL Game of the week
6:00 PM Blue Sky 4 9v9 U9G DT Academy South 04G Adames vs Texas Spirit Jr 04G Clark

or

8:00 AM DSP 4 9v9 U9G Sting East 04G Chacon vs DT Academy 04G City Scott-DeLeon

these are next weeks games

or

Solar Kennington vs Liverpool Dalglish

Yea I think this game is a bit more interesting in that I don't recall seeing Kennington play a top 04 team in a while, at least age pure.

My gut says the Spirit - South game will be more competitive though.

I believe LP Dalglish is one up on Solar Kennington. They played in TFC tourney this past Dec. LP Dalglish won 3-1.

Didn't Dalglish score 2 in extra time though, to give them the win.. I suspect a diff outcome this next match.

Agree, LP won't need the extra time in the next match for the win

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Post by Busby Babes 15/02/13, 05:52 pm

soccercircus wrote:
Busby Babes wrote:
4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:
Shelby427 wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
WestsideSoccer wrote:

these are next weeks games

or

Solar Kennington vs Liverpool Dalglish

Yea I think this game is a bit more interesting in that I don't recall seeing Kennington play a top 04 team in a while, at least age pure.

My gut says the Spirit - South game will be more competitive though.

I believe LP Dalglish is one up on Solar Kennington. They played in TFC tourney this past Dec. LP Dalglish won 3-1.

Didn't Dalglish score 2 in extra time though, to give them the win.. I suspect a diff outcome this next match.

Agree, LP won't need the extra time in the next match for the win

We shall soon see now won't we...
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Post by Shelby427 15/02/13, 06:08 pm

Busby Babes wrote:
soccercircus wrote:
Busby Babes wrote:
4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:
Shelby427 wrote:
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or

Solar Kennington vs Liverpool Dalglish

Yea I think this game is a bit more interesting in that I don't recall seeing Kennington play a top 04 team in a while, at least age pure.

My gut says the Spirit - South game will be more competitive though.

I believe LP Dalglish is one up on Solar Kennington. They played in TFC tourney this past Dec. LP Dalglish won 3-1.

Didn't Dalglish score 2 in extra time though, to give them the win.. I suspect a diff outcome this next match.

Agree, LP won't need the extra time in the next match for the win

We shall soon see now won't we...

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Post by SwitchDaField 16/02/13, 08:41 am

Busby Babes wrote:
4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:
Shelby427 wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
WestsideSoccer wrote:
GinkoBiloba11 wrote:

SDL Game of the week
6:00 PM Blue Sky 4 9v9 U9G DT Academy South 04G Adames vs Texas Spirit Jr 04G Clark

or

8:00 AM DSP 4 9v9 U9G Sting East 04G Chacon vs DT Academy 04G City Scott-DeLeon

these are next weeks games

or

Solar Kennington vs Liverpool Dalglish

Yea I think this game is a bit more interesting in that I don't recall seeing Kennington play a top 04 team in a while, at least age pure.

My gut says the Spirit - South game will be more competitive though.

I believe LP Dalglish is one up on Solar Kennington. They played in TFC tourney this past Dec. LP Dalglish won 3-1.

Didn't Dalglish score 2 in extra time though, to give them the win.. I suspect a diff outcome this next match.

So what you are saying Solar girls ran out of gas and LP Dalglish got better as the game progressed, that's why it was 3-1? I bet you are going to say the same for the TX Spirit loss as well. lol! lol!

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Post by Sweet_feet99 16/02/13, 10:10 am

Well being able to finish the game is a big part of the game. A team that can finish strong is a well coached team. But hey that's just my opinion.
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Post by Busby Babes 16/02/13, 02:19 pm

I think the bigger part is when the breaks just don't go your way.. I can think of many well coached squads, for club and countries, that this has happened too. Can also name many shite managers that have had the breaks go their way and pull off the victory . Stuart Pearce is one glaring example..
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Post by Sweet_feet99 16/02/13, 02:23 pm

No argument from me here. I totally agree and at this age I understand that a bad game is always due. Didn't mean to make it sound as if your team isn't well coached or that your girls gave up. Always more than one way to look at it.
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Post by Guest 16/02/13, 02:25 pm

Busby Babes wrote:I think the bigger part is when the breaks just don't go your way.. I can think of many well coached squads, for club and countries, that this has happened too. Can also name many shite managers that have had the breaks go their way and pull off the victory . Stuart Pearce is one glaring example..

Yes but in this particular game that wasn't the case. Dalglish deserved to win!

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Post by Busby Babes 16/02/13, 02:35 pm

Maybe so, however it is not a forgone conclusion that the result will be repeated in this match, as the scouse hugger alluded to.
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Post by Guest 16/02/13, 02:36 pm

Agree, should be a good game

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Post by Busby Babes 16/02/13, 02:38 pm

Agreed..Could go either way.
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Post by Busby Babes 16/02/13, 02:54 pm

Sweet_feet99 wrote:No argument from me here. I totally agree and at this age I understand that a bad game is always due. Didn't mean to make it sound as if your team isn't well coached or that your girls gave up. Always more than one way to look at it.

The most important thing to remember at this age if we are to improve as a nation in the sport is to get away from emphasis on wins and losses. Player development should be the foremost importance, especially at this age level. Unfortunately, our player development is still suffering due to managers "needing" to get positive results, rather than being paid on being an outstanding player developer. Not many coaches in this area coach our kids appropriately. Sad reality.
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Post by Lobo_Momma 16/02/13, 08:08 pm

Gotta luv this Busby Babe guy! Hails Kenn as a tactical guru for parking the bus in front of the goal in certain games to get results . . . and then talks about the need to move away from wins and losses for the sake of player development!
You couldn't make this stuff up! Rolling Eyes
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Post by HoldTheDoor 16/02/13, 09:05 pm

Lobo_Momma wrote:Gotta luv this Busby Babe guy! Hails Kenn as a tactical guru for parking the bus in front of the goal in certain games to get results . . . and then talks about the need to move away from wins and losses for the sake of player development!
You couldn't make this stuff up! Rolling Eyes


You really need to get over that game.

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Post by soccercircus 16/02/13, 10:59 pm

Busby Babes wrote:
Sweet_feet99 wrote:No argument from me here. I totally agree and at this age I understand that a bad game is always due. Didn't mean to make it sound as if your team isn't well coached or that your girls gave up. Always more than one way to look at it.

The most important thing to remember at this age if we are to improve as a nation in the sport is to get away from emphasis on wins and losses. Player development should be the foremost importance, especially at this age level. Unfortunately, our player development is still suffering due to managers "needing" to get positive results, rather than being paid on being an outstanding player developer. Not many coaches in this area coach our kids appropriately. Sad reality.

Wins not important? Guess your right, like the TFC tourney 2 weeks ago in the championship game between Solar and Spirit. Solar leading 4-1 at half, then Spirit racks up 5 or 6 goals in 20 min for the win. give Spirit credit for staying focused and playing hard. Gotta appreciate Solars coaching tactics, or lack there of, as they focused on "player development" rather appreciating a nice tournament win. scratch

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Post by skills 17/02/13, 09:24 am

LMAO! All post come down to Solar Kenn. Why so much hate? From what I've seen his players are all coached very well.

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Post by Busby Babes 17/02/13, 09:49 am

Lobo_Momma wrote:Gotta luv this Busby Babe guy! Hails Kenn as a tactical guru for parking the bus in front of the goal in certain games to get results . . . and then talks about the need to move away from wins and losses for the sake of player development!
You couldn't make this stuff up! Rolling Eyes

My analysis of that match was spot on, as was my post referencing player development. You, unfortunately, lack the knowledge to comprehend both of those topics. I have years of knowledge in the game that you couldn't fathom to understand. Stick to the occasional ESPN highlights that you might see on TV, and leave the technical matters of the game to the well-versed.
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Post by Busby Babes 17/02/13, 09:56 am

soccercircus wrote:
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Sweet_feet99 wrote:No argument from me here. I totally agree and at this age I understand that a bad game is always due. Didn't mean to make it sound as if your team isn't well coached or that your girls gave up. Always more than one way to look at it.

The most important thing to remember at this age if we are to improve as a nation in the sport is to get away from emphasis on wins and losses. Player development should be the foremost importance, especially at this age level. Unfortunately, our player development is still suffering due to managers "needing" to get positive results, rather than being paid on being an outstanding player developer. Not many coaches in this area coach our kids appropriately. Sad reality.

Wins not important? Guess your right, like the TFC tourney 2 weeks ago in the championship game between Solar and Spirit. Solar leading 4-1 at half, then Spirit racks up 5 or 6 goals in 20 min for the win. give Spirit credit for staying focused and playing hard. Gotta appreciate Solars coaching tactics, or lack there of, as they focused on "player development" rather appreciating a nice tournament win. scratch

You totally took what I said, and created your own fantasy post. Nice effort, strawman.
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Post by go99 17/02/13, 10:10 am

I think they are pointing to the apparent contradiction. First Kenn being the master tactician who completely out coached LW by putting the entire team in defense. I seem to remeber it being pretty nasty infact. With LW being blasted for his inabilty to recognize and make changes in tactics to win the game. Now it has switched to it's all about development not wins scratch I can unserstand peoples confusion. I agree with you though. At this age it should be all about development and learning to play your style of soccer. You win some and you lose some and you can learn from both.
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Post by Busby Babes 17/02/13, 10:47 am

Go 99,

In that match, the point of my post was, Kenn had an excellent game plan which wasn't so bland as to a general reference of " parking the bus". There was much more to the way he tactically set up that match. There was a simple counter plan that the Liverpool coach could have installed once he saw how the match was progressing, and failed to see it. I was honestly surprised because I assumed he would have picked it out easily. Not to say he is a poor manager, but in that match, he failed to make the adjustment when the spacing in midfield was congested.

I tend to think you are pretty on top of the sport, and have a good understanding of what I'm talking about.
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Post by db10 17/02/13, 10:48 am

I'm confused, he stacks the box in one game and gets blasted for trying to get a result? But when he doesn't play for the result he gets blasted for not trying to win? His girls seem pretty well coached every time I've seen them. So hopefully someone can enlighten me on what the big issue is?

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Post by skills 17/02/13, 10:58 am

db10 wrote:I'm confused, he stacks the box in one game and gets blasted for trying to get a result? But when he doesn't play for the result he gets blasted for not trying to win? His girls seem pretty well coached every time I've seen them. So hopefully someone can enlighten me on what the big issue is?

Agreed

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Post by go99 17/02/13, 11:03 am

he is not getting blasted for it. Some people are pointing out the apparent contradiction.
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Post by skills 17/02/13, 11:09 am

Both Kenn & LW are great coaches. it's fun when those team play.

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Post by go99 17/02/13, 11:13 am

Busby Babes wrote:Go 99,

In that match, the point of my post was, Kenn had an excellent game plan which wasn't so bland as to a general reference of " parking the bus". There was much more to the way he tactically set up that match. There was a simple counter plan that the Liverpool coach could have installed once he saw how the match was progressing, and failed to see it. I was honestly surprised because I assumed he would have picked it out easily. Not to say he is a poor manager, but in that match, he failed to make the adjustment when the spacing in midfield was congested.

I tend to think you are pretty on top of the sport, and have a good understanding of what I'm talking about.

I definitely understand what he did and those kind of tactics can get results even if its not the best for development. I thought the girls showed incredible discipline to carry it out. I have since seen several others try a similar approach and been unable to pull it off. My argument at that time was I didn't know if LW recognized it or not but a that age he should not have made the adjustments. The girls are still learning to execute a style of play. I know my DD learned alot from that game and improved as a player. And to be fair it was said that LW was a poor manager and was completely outclassed by Kenn.

So there is the rub. On one hand he is a tactics genius who completely outclassed LW. But then in his lose he is just a coach who cares about the development of his girls.

I prefer and hope he is the later. I was dissapointed to see what I felt was a very good attacking team sink in and refuse to attack. Hopefully that is all done with and the team is back to their attacking ways even if they lose
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