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Post by rockindaddy 08/11/14, 10:45 am

Mustangs FC - Spence wrote:I have taken time to read over everyone's comments, allegations of wrong doing, etc... however, there are always two sides to a every story....

First, everyone is correct that we did use a 1 CP player; however, it was not used to gain a competitive edge over FWFC.  We were missing 3 players who all happen to be forwards. We had a need in a specific position so we used the CP.  I didn't "deactivate" the players unable to play because I was not at my max roster size.  
We have a total of 17 players on our roster; however, one of those is brand new to our team, which is why we wore our practice t-shirts in the game.  

Second, FWFC is too good of a team to say 1 player determined the outcome. I find it hard to believe people on this forum with such a vast knowledge of soccer would believe that 1 player would make that much of a difference to change the outcome of a game.

I have 3 teams (02, 00 & 98) in LH and I face CP players almost every week on every team.  I see several parents posted on this thread that they are against the CP; however, their own Coaches use it.  I even had a coach tell me after a game "you have to do what you can to win".... This was a coach who used (2) CP players from the LHGCL D1 team to play against us in D3, so in my experience I have seen small - medium - large clubs use it and not always for the right reasons. I believe the rule needs to be edited/amended/revised there is a opportunity for the rule to be abused.

The purpose of this post is not to plead my case but it is to give you information you didn't have before.
I will leave you (the fine people of this forum) to be the judge & jury in the matter of if I used the CP rule "unfairly".

Please feel free to ask me for more information or questions.

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You just stated you where needing forwards so how can you claim you didn't use it for a competitive advantage. If you have 11 players able to play then it is always used as a competitive advantage. I don't blame you for doing it and it is within the rules so i don't claim like some others do that it is cheating, but please don't claim it is not for a competitive advantage.

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Post by what82 08/11/14, 12:45 pm

I can tell you there were players on the Mustang bench.
I can also tell you the regular forwards were on the field.
Nothing outside the rules but "missing players" was not the reason for the CPP use.

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Post by Packrabbit 08/11/14, 04:32 pm

I gotta give the man credit for being the first & only coach to stand his ground, expose himself to the chatter, as well as comment on CPP. I'm inclined to give the man the benefit of the doubt.

3 D3 injuries, 1 CPP from D2? Sure, someone played down, but it's hard for me to beat-up the man when the rule mis-use is so rampant. It hasn't been an even playing field for over a year now. Its gotten so egregious,  CPP has become a weekly process with some clubs.  Should we expect the mustangs to take their relegation "like a man"? People, we're chasing minnows as the whales swim by.

I hate it for FC White, but my guess is their coach isn't blaming the loss on the D2 player. If Spence kept the faith with his team with playing one D2 player, he went far beyond what we have been witnessing on a weekly basis.

Lastly, if we want honest input from coaches and the like, it would be productive to limit the catcalls from the peanut gallery, when they do participate.

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Post by textigerfan 09/11/14, 06:40 am

Packrabbit wrote:I gotta give the man credit for being the first & only coach to stand his ground, expose himself to the chatter, as well as comment on CPP. I'm inclined to give the man the benefit of the doubt.

3 D3 injuries, 1 CPP from D2? Sure, someone played down, but it's hard for me to beat-up the man when the rule mis-use is so rampant. It hasn't been an even playing field for over a year now. Its gotten so egregious,  CPP has become a weekly process with some clubs.  Should we expect the mustangs to take their relegation "like a man"? People, we're chasing minnows as the whales swim by.

I hate it for FC White, but my guess is their coach isn't blaming the loss on the D2 player. If Spence kept the faith with his team with playing one D2 player, he went far beyond what we have been witnessing on a weekly basis.

Lastly, if we want honest input from coaches and the like, it would be productive to limit the catcalls from the peanut gallery, when they do participate.

You are correct Pack, the FC White coach did not blame the loss on the CPP, it was a collective team effort. Mustangs were just better that day...simple as that.
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Post by InaB 09/11/14, 10:30 am

Pack, I agree with you 100%.
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