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Post by PLAY2FEET!! 04/09/18, 09:35 am

So is it time to acknowledge that DFW really only needs 2 Girls DA programs? Regardless of who those 2 are.

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Post by AngelinaGoalee 04/09/18, 09:37 am

So...if Texans got dropped from DA what would be next for the club?
Is ECNL forgiving enough to allow them back into the folds?

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Post by DT03GWhiteNPL 04/09/18, 08:50 pm

AngelinaGoalee wrote:Loooooong day at Ross Stewart today except for 03 FDL...
Solar came through and throttled the whole DA crew.
(Pre) Labor Day Massacre. ::gunshots::

What happened to the 03 FDL?
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Post by AngelinaGoalee 04/09/18, 08:51 pm

They won 6-0 vs Solar

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Post by AngelinaGoalee 04/09/18, 08:52 pm

Like a small consolation prize

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Post by DT03GWhiteNPL 04/09/18, 08:55 pm

Scores are all lopsided - no matter how you slice it I guess... nothing close...
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Post by Pele98 05/09/18, 09:36 am

PLAY2FEET!! wrote:So is it time to acknowledge that DFW really only needs 2 Girls DA programs? Regardless of who those 2 are.

Ironically, same argument was made 10+ years ago when DFW was given five ECNL spots, that all was needed was 2 or 3 spots.

Girls DA is still in its infancy.  Most, not all, of the DA Clubs were given Girls DA invites based on their Boys DA success.  And you can look at success in so many different ways.   I don't think there was ever an expectation that those Clubs will compete and be at the same level all at once, with no growing pains. 

Now, 5 or 6 years down the road I think there could be a legit argument on what Clubs really deserve to have Girls DA and which ones do not.  Not in the second year of DA Girls pilot program, and definitely not based on first games of 9-months season.
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Post by AngelinaGoalee 05/09/18, 09:44 am

Pele98 wrote:
PLAY2FEET!! wrote:So is it time to acknowledge that DFW really only needs 2 Girls DA programs? Regardless of who those 2 are.

Ironically, same argument was made 10+ years ago when DFW was given five ECNL spots, that all was needed was 2 or 3 spots.

Girls DA is still in its infancy.  Most, not all, of the DA Clubs were given Girls DA invites based on their Boys DA success.  And you can look at success in so many different ways.   I don't think there was ever an expectation that those Clubs will compete and be at the same level all at once, with no growing pains. 

Now, 5 or 6 years down the road I think there could be a legit argument on what Clubs really deserve to have Girls DA and which ones do not.  Not in the second year of DA Girls pilot program, and definitely not based on first games of 9-months season.
Well it’s just the first weekend but at this rate and how the club...on the girls side...at the DA level...is being ran, Texans should let Solar and FCD have at it. I’m not sure Texans have a goal or identity that they can use as a foundation for the younger girls. They’ll all end up being scouted and taken by the other two clubs.

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Post by Pele98 05/09/18, 11:29 am

AngelinaGoalee wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
PLAY2FEET!! wrote:So is it time to acknowledge that DFW really only needs 2 Girls DA programs? Regardless of who those 2 are.

Ironically, same argument was made 10+ years ago when DFW was given five ECNL spots, that all was needed was 2 or 3 spots.

Girls DA is still in its infancy.  Most, not all, of the DA Clubs were given Girls DA invites based on their Boys DA success.  And you can look at success in so many different ways.   I don't think there was ever an expectation that those Clubs will compete and be at the same level all at once, with no growing pains. 

Now, 5 or 6 years down the road I think there could be a legit argument on what Clubs really deserve to have Girls DA and which ones do not.  Not in the second year of DA Girls pilot program, and definitely not based on first games of 9-months season.
Well it’s just the first weekend but at this rate and how the club...on the girls side...at the DA level...is being ran, Texans should let Solar and FCD have at it. I’m not sure Texans have a goal or identity that they can use as a foundation for the younger girls. They’ll all end up being scouted and taken by the other two clubs.

Revolving doors recruiting, isn't it?  As they get recruited by the other two Clubs and leave, some will get dropped by same two Clubs and join.  The cycle will repeat year after year and not just after the first games...and that is the beauty of it.
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Post by PLAY2FEET!! 05/09/18, 01:53 pm

Pele98 wrote:
PLAY2FEET!! wrote:So is it time to acknowledge that DFW really only needs 2 Girls DA programs? Regardless of who those 2 are.

Ironically, same argument was made 10+ years ago when DFW was given five ECNL spots, that all was needed was 2 or 3 spots.

Girls DA is still in its infancy.  Most, not all, of the DA Clubs were given Girls DA invites based on their Boys DA success.  And you can look at success in so many different ways.   I don't think there was ever an expectation that those Clubs will compete and be at the same level all at once, with no growing pains. 

Now, 5 or 6 years down the road I think there could be a legit argument on what Clubs really deserve to have Girls DA and which ones do not.  Not in the second year of DA Girls pilot program, and definitely not based on first games of 9-months season.
But DA and ECNL serve 2 very different purposes, right? Otherwise, why was DA established for the girls? And who's to say that argument from 10 years ago was ever proven wrong. My statement on the number of DA clubs was not in regards to DA's infancy, but rather the talent pool in NTX.

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Post by AngelinaGoalee 05/09/18, 02:50 pm

PLAY2FEET!! wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
PLAY2FEET!! wrote:So is it time to acknowledge that DFW really only needs 2 Girls DA programs? Regardless of who those 2 are.

Ironically, same argument was made 10+ years ago when DFW was given five ECNL spots, that all was needed was 2 or 3 spots.

Girls DA is still in its infancy.  Most, not all, of the DA Clubs were given Girls DA invites based on their Boys DA success.  And you can look at success in so many different ways.   I don't think there was ever an expectation that those Clubs will compete and be at the same level all at once, with no growing pains. 

Now, 5 or 6 years down the road I think there could be a legit argument on what Clubs really deserve to have Girls DA and which ones do not.  Not in the second year of DA Girls pilot program, and definitely not based on first games of 9-months season.
But DA and ECNL serve 2 very different purposes, right? Otherwise, why was DA established for the girls? And who's to say that argument from 10 years ago was ever proven wrong. My statement on the number of DA clubs was not in regards to DA's infancy, but rather the talent pool in NTX.
All these leagues in place for the players...
What about stricter standards for all of these coaches and clubs?
Is it too much to have standards set and consequences to be paid for not meeting those standards? #CoachingAccountability

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Post by Guest 05/09/18, 04:52 pm

AngelinaGoalee wrote:
PLAY2FEET!! wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
PLAY2FEET!! wrote:So is it time to acknowledge that DFW really only needs 2 Girls DA programs? Regardless of who those 2 are.

Ironically, same argument was made 10+ years ago when DFW was given five ECNL spots, that all was needed was 2 or 3 spots.

Girls DA is still in its infancy.  Most, not all, of the DA Clubs were given Girls DA invites based on their Boys DA success.  And you can look at success in so many different ways.   I don't think there was ever an expectation that those Clubs will compete and be at the same level all at once, with no growing pains. 

Now, 5 or 6 years down the road I think there could be a legit argument on what Clubs really deserve to have Girls DA and which ones do not.  Not in the second year of DA Girls pilot program, and definitely not based on first games of 9-months season.
But DA and ECNL serve 2 very different purposes, right? Otherwise, why was DA established for the girls? And who's to say that argument from 10 years ago was ever proven wrong. My statement on the number of DA clubs was not in regards to DA's infancy, but rather the talent pool in NTX.
All these leagues in place for the players...
What about stricter standards for all of these coaches and clubs?
Is it too much to have standards set and consequences to be paid for not meeting those standards? #CoachingAccountability

The only standard that will ever matter is where people take their kid$.

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Post by Checkpoint Charlie 05/09/18, 05:12 pm

DeltaTauChi wrote:
AngelinaGoalee wrote:
PLAY2FEET!! wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
PLAY2FEET!! wrote:So is it time to acknowledge that DFW really only needs 2 Girls DA programs? Regardless of who those 2 are.

Ironically, same argument was made 10+ years ago when DFW was given five ECNL spots, that all was needed was 2 or 3 spots.

Girls DA is still in its infancy.  Most, not all, of the DA Clubs were given Girls DA invites based on their Boys DA success.  And you can look at success in so many different ways.   I don't think there was ever an expectation that those Clubs will compete and be at the same level all at once, with no growing pains. 

Now, 5 or 6 years down the road I think there could be a legit argument on what Clubs really deserve to have Girls DA and which ones do not.  Not in the second year of DA Girls pilot program, and definitely not based on first games of 9-months season.
But DA and ECNL serve 2 very different purposes, right? Otherwise, why was DA established for the girls? And who's to say that argument from 10 years ago was ever proven wrong. My statement on the number of DA clubs was not in regards to DA's infancy, but rather the talent pool in NTX.
All these leagues in place for the players...
What about stricter standards for all of these coaches and clubs?
Is it too much to have standards set and consequences to be paid for not meeting those standards? #CoachingAccountability

The only standard that will ever matter is where people take their kid$.

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Post by TatonkaBurger 06/09/18, 08:44 am

There was no doubt in my mind that Texans would be in the DA cellar again this year.  But I do agree with Charlie to a point.  It might last more than a couple of years but the club and its DA teams will pick back up.  There is always movement in the offseason and there will be good ECNL players who decide to give the DA a go.  If you get a good enough collection from Sting and Feet teams and those that drop off from FC Dallas and Solar at the same time who decide to check out Texans, you could have a competitive team quickly.  It will happen.  

Or on the other hand Texans could get dropped from DA like that poor club in Kansas City.
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Post by Guest 06/09/18, 12:50 pm

Why doesn’t an ELITE CLUB with DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY just develop their own players?

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Post by BENDMEOVER 06/09/18, 06:19 pm

That would be work that's why.

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Post by McFarlandTx 08/09/18, 07:13 am

Lol..
DFW need more than 3 DA teams.
Texans are not going anywhere.
For the record , Texans lost talented 04, 05, 06 , 02-03 players this off season to Solar. The same players that moved accounted for more than 60% of those goals this past weekend.  My prediction is these current Solar teams will do these kinds of numbers to a lots of DA clubs this season.   Dfw is always a revolving door. Things change fast here.
The Texan teams are all new and it’s too early to know where they stand in DA.  I am sure HN has a game plan to develop these players. He is too involved in boys teams and hopefully this was a wake up call for him to know where his girls teams are and help them when they need him the most. After all , he is the one who scouted , developed and groomed Clint Dempsey.  


TatonkaBurger wrote:There was no doubt in my mind that Texans would be in the DA cellar again this year.  But I do agree with Charlie to a point.  It might last more than a couple of years but the club and its DA teams will pick back up.  There is always movement in the offseason and there will be good ECNL players who decide to give the DA a go.  If you get a good enough collection from Sting and Feet teams and those that drop off from FC Dallas and Solar at the same time who decide to check out Texans, you could have a competitive team quickly.  It will happen.  

Or on the other hand Texans could get dropped from DA like that poor club in Kansas City.

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Post by Zizou 08/09/18, 08:29 am

McFarlandTx wrote:Lol..
DFW need more than 3 DA teams.
Texans are not going anywhere.
For the record , Texans lost talented 04, 05, 06 , 02-03 players this off season to Solar. The same players that moved accounted for more than 60% of those goals this past weekend.  My prediction is these current Solar teams will do these kinds of numbers to a lots of DA clubs this season.   Dfw is always a revolving door. Things change fast here.
The Texan teams are all new and it’s too early to know where they stand in DA.  I am sure HN has a game plan to develop these players. He is too involved in boys teams and hopefully this was a wake up call for him to know where his girls teams are and help them when they need him the most. After all , he is the one who scouted , developed and groomed Clint Dempsey.  


HN and Texans have never given the attention to the girls side of the club that the boys have received. HN and Texans would need to spend money on the coaching staff to pull the quality players from FCD and Solar and to keep their quality players from leaving.

TatonkaBurger wrote:There was no doubt in my mind that Texans would be in the DA cellar again this year.  But I do agree with Charlie to a point.  It might last more than a couple of years but the club and its DA teams will pick back up.  There is always movement in the offseason and there will be good ECNL players who decide to give the DA a go.  If you get a good enough collection from Sting and Feet teams and those that drop off from FC Dallas and Solar at the same time who decide to check out Texans, you could have a competitive team quickly.  It will happen.  

Or on the other hand Texans could get dropped from DA like that poor club in Kansas City.

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Post by Checkpoint Charlie 08/09/18, 09:12 am

[quote="McFarlandTx"]Lol..
DFW need more than 3 DA teams.
Texans are not going anywhere.
For the record , Texans lost talented 04, 05, 06 , 02-03 players this off season to Solar. The same players that moved accounted for more than 60% of those goals this past weekend.  My prediction is these current Solar teams will do these kinds of numbers to a lots of DA clubs this season.   Dfw is always a revolving door. Things change fast here.
The Texan teams are all new and it’s too early to know where they stand in DA.  I am sure HN has a game plan to develop these players. He is too involved in boys teams and hopefully this was a wake up call for him to know where his girls teams are and help them when they need him the most. After all , he is the one who scouted , developed and groomed Clint Dempsey.  




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Post by 918soccer 28/04/19, 08:30 pm

Real Colorado DOC on GDA/ECNL conflict and asking for 2 ECNL teams to leave GDA...

https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/82075/lorne-donaldson-on-how-the-ecnl-vs-development-ac.html?verified=1

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Post by AngelinaGoalee 28/04/19, 09:02 pm

This isn’t news...

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Post by Nothing_but_net 04/05/19, 12:59 am

Sorry to be off topic a little, but when does the season end/begin for ECNL and DA officially? If you change clubs and/or divisions at this level, do you stay with your current team until all league games are played? With rain makeups the season is ending later than usual. Wasn’t sure if it was July 1 like LH teams.
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Post by Big Ern 05/05/19, 09:01 pm

Nothing_but_net wrote:Sorry to be off topic a little, but when does the season end/begin for ECNL and DA officially? If you change clubs and/or divisions at this level, do you stay with your current team until all league games are played? With rain makeups the season is ending later than usual. Wasn’t sure if it was July 1 like LH teams.  

GDA kids are 7/1-6/30 but if they are released from their club midseason to join another GDA team, there is a probationary period (6 games I think?) before they are eligible to play.  Not 100% on ECNL but I believe they sign the same NTX contract as the rest.

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Post by Big Ern 05/05/19, 09:04 pm

918soccer wrote:Real Colorado DOC on GDA/ECNL conflict and asking for 2 ECNL teams to leave GDA...

https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/82075/lorne-donaldson-on-how-the-ecnl-vs-development-ac.html?verified=1

As it turns out NineEighteen, they went the other way didn't they?

Is FCD next?  

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