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Post by socrocks 16/01/12, 01:06 pm

With a few events having been played, I'm curious to know some of your thoughts of HS teams you've seen play thru this point.
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Post by Uncle Numanga 16/01/12, 03:22 pm

You start.
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Post by socrocks 16/01/12, 05:23 pm

So far I've seen....S Carroll, Grapevine, Coppell, Colleyville, Rosary (Calif), Bishop Lynch and Amarillo. These were all teams Flower Mound played or scrimmaged.

Some of the group lived up to their preseason billing (Carroll, Coppell) and some did not (most notably Colleyville). My assessment is more from the run of play perspective, than necessarily the score (especially the 2 short scrimmages vs Carroll/Grapevine).

My feeling is that Carroll is particularly solid and Coppell looked pretty good, too. I felt FM pretty handily controlled all of the other games...from a possession and scoring chance perspective (despite the 1-0 loss to Rosary, FM heavily controlled the game). Not sure my perspective means much to anyone else, since FM was the basis for comparison in all of the games.

Though I didn't see them play, clearly Marcus made a statement. Their results probably speak for themselves. It also looks like Keller made a strong showing. Boyd did well until the Grapevine tie....which sort of surprised me. And Ursuline had solid results, short of their loss to Marcus.
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Post by u95g dad 16/01/12, 07:29 pm

socrocks wrote:So far I've seen....S Carroll, Grapevine, Coppell, Colleyville, Rosary (Calif), Bishop Lynch and Amarillo. These were all teams Flower Mound played or scrimmaged.

Some of the group lived up to their preseason billing (Carroll, Coppell) and some did not (most notably Colleyville). My assessment is more from the run of play perspective, than necessarily the score (especially the 2 short scrimmages vs Carroll/Grapevine).

My feeling is that Carroll is particularly solid and Coppell looked pretty good, too. I felt FM pretty handily controlled all of the other games...from a possession and scoring chance perspective (despite the 1-0 loss to Rosary, FM heavily controlled the game). Not sure my perspective means much to anyone else, since FM was the basis for comparison in all of the games.

Though I didn't see them play, clearly Marcus made a statement. Their results probably speak for themselves. It also looks like Keller made a strong showing. Boyd did well until the Grapevine tie....which sort of surprised me. And Ursuline had solid results, short of their loss to Marcus.

Soc, I was speaking to the Rosary coaches before their game against Amarillo and they pretty much confirmed that Flower Mound had the better play in that game.

It looks like Grapevine did pretty well against some stout competition. They lost 1-0 to Aquinas and tied Boyd and Coppell. The also lost 5-2 to Kingwood which makes you wonder if they were getting some people in that game. I started to watch some of their scrimmage against Flower Mound and they started out with second teamers per one of the parents. I didn't stay around so don't know if the first team played much and how they did.

From the tournament I would say Heritage was over ranked and Marcus was under ranked, at least early in the season. Looks like that has been corrected with this weeks ranking. I don't know if Carroll and Marcus should be one and two but the people that rank seemed to give more credit to winning than who the competition was (Marcus probably had better competition than Carroll). That is, except for Keller. I think they have a pretty good team and should be ranked somewhere.

I am suprised they had all these Texas teams ranked in the Top 50 before any games were played. For the most part, I would say the Texas teams outplayed the out of state teams this year, unlike previous years. Maybe the out of state competition was not as strong this year (some of the same teams but not as strong?).

Looks like there is supposed to be some good weather this weekend. Lets enjoy it while we can before it gets miserable like it was Thursday night.
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Post by BigBoy 16/01/12, 07:36 pm

With bias, Frisco Centennial (4A) is doing pretty well. Beat every 4A they have faced so far (5 games) and then beat 5A Denton Ryan 3-2 last weekend (game 6), and took 5A Hebron Hawks to shoot-outs in the Championship game (Centennial lost that 2-0).

We face both Ryan and Hebron again this weekend, so should be a good prep for district play.
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Post by Lawnboy 16/01/12, 09:25 pm

I expect Boyd to repeat again this year -- despite their last-minute uh-oh with Grapevine.

Now I've just completely jinxed them.

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Post by 94/00 16/01/12, 09:33 pm

Yep, you did. Tied Midlothian tonight 0-0.

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Post by Frogfan1 16/01/12, 10:40 pm

BigBoy wrote:With bias, Frisco Centennial (4A) is doing pretty well. Beat every 4A they have faced so far (5 games) and then beat 5A Denton Ryan 3-2 last weekend (game 6), and took 5A Hebron Hawks to shoot-outs in the Championship game (Centennial lost that 2-0).

We face both Ryan and Hebron again this weekend, so should be a good prep for district play.

Denton Ryan is 4A not 5A.
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Post by Uncle Numanga 17/01/12, 05:50 am

Frogfan1 wrote:
BigBoy wrote:With bias, Frisco Centennial (4A) is doing pretty well. Beat every 4A they have faced so far (5 games) and then beat 5A Denton Ryan 3-2 last weekend (game 6), and took 5A Hebron Hawks to shoot-outs in the Championship game (Centennial lost that 2-0).

We face both Ryan and Hebron again this weekend, so should be a good prep for district play.

Denton Ryan is 4A not 5A.

No, they are 5A. Have been since last year. 7-5A along with Carroll, Coppell and the rest.
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Post by Gunners 17/01/12, 07:14 am

Uncle Numanga wrote:
Frogfan1 wrote:
BigBoy wrote:With bias, Frisco Centennial (4A) is doing pretty well. Beat every 4A they have faced so far (5 games) and then beat 5A Denton Ryan 3-2 last weekend (game 6), and took 5A Hebron Hawks to shoot-outs in the Championship game (Centennial lost that 2-0).

We face both Ryan and Hebron again this weekend, so should be a good prep for district play.

Denton Ryan is 4A not 5A.

No, they are 5A. Have been since last year. 7-5A along with Carroll, Coppell and the rest.
Eh? They were 4A last year and are again this year.

Btw, high school soccer blows...meh.

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Post by bronxdad 17/01/12, 07:19 am

Uncle Numanga wrote:
Frogfan1 wrote:
BigBoy wrote:With bias, Frisco Centennial (4A) is doing pretty well. Beat every 4A they have faced so far (5 games) and then beat 5A Denton Ryan 3-2 last weekend (game 6), and took 5A Hebron Hawks to shoot-outs in the Championship game (Centennial lost that 2-0).

We face both Ryan and Hebron again this weekend, so should be a good prep for district play.

Denton Ryan is 4A not 5A.

No, they are 5A. Have been since last year. 7-5A along with Carroll, Coppell and the rest.

District 11-4A
Argyle
Denton
Denton Ryan
Keller Timber Creek
Lake Dallas
N Richland Hills
Birdville
Northwest Nelson

I have heard they will be 5A in next re-alignment in February

http://www.uiltexas.org/soccer/state-team/denton-ryan-2010-2011-girls-soccer



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Post by Uncle Numanga 17/01/12, 08:31 am

I was thinking about Guyer. My bad.
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Post by stillyuk 17/01/12, 09:14 am

You were thinking about guys. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Post by Pitchmon 17/01/12, 09:25 pm

[quote="bronxdad"]
Uncle Numanga wrote:
Frogfan1 wrote:
BigBoy wrote:With bias, Frisco Centennial (4A) is doing pretty well. Beat every 4A they have faced so far (5 games) and then beat 5A Denton Ryan 3-2 last weekend (game 6), and took 5A Hebron Hawks to shoot-outs in the Championship game (Centennial lost that 2-0).

We face both Ryan and Hebron again this weekend, so should be a good prep for district play.

Denton Ryan is 4A not 5A.

No, they are 5A. Have been since last year. 7-5A along with Carroll, Coppell and the rest.

District 11-4A
Argyle
Denton
Denton Ryan
Keller Timber Creek
Lake Dallas
N Richland Hills
Birdville
Northwest Nelson

I have heard they will be 5A in next re-alignment in February

http://www.uiltexas.org/soccer/state-team/denton-ryan-2010-2011-girls-soccer


For 7-5A next year I have heard from a coach that Saginaw and Guyer are gone to 4A, Ryan and Timbercreek are in to 7-5A, rest stays the same. Not sure it's real butmakes some sense.
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Post by Number07 18/01/12, 11:40 am

We (TC) have been told we will be 5A next year... Would have preferred another year or 2 in 4A personally.

Have also heard a rumor that Fossil Ridge may move down to 4A again but I have no idea I'd this is true.
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Post by Gunners 18/01/12, 11:42 am

Number07 wrote:We (TC) have been told we will be 5A next year... Would have preferred another year or 2 in 4A personally.

Have also heard a rumor that Fossil Ridge may move down to 4A again but I have no idea I'd this is true.

You should learn to hide kids better like some of the less scrupulous 4A schools *cough* Ryan *cough*.


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Post by TNT 18/01/12, 12:30 pm

Uncle Numanga wrote:
Frogfan1 wrote:
BigBoy wrote:With bias, Frisco Centennial (4A) is doing pretty well. Beat every 4A they have faced so far (5 games) and then beat 5A Denton Ryan 3-2 last weekend (game 6), and took 5A Hebron Hawks to shoot-outs in the Championship game (Centennial lost that 2-0).

We face both Ryan and Hebron again this weekend, so should be a good prep for district play.

Denton Ryan is 4A not 5A.

No, they are 5A. Have been since last year. 7-5A along with Carroll, Coppell and the rest.

4A, it is being said they will move to 5A next year.

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Post by TNT 18/01/12, 12:31 pm

Uncle Numanga wrote:I was thinking about Guyer. My bad.
Ironically Guyer will be moving down next year to 4A Wink

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Post by bronxdad 18/01/12, 01:24 pm

Gunners wrote:
Number07 wrote:We (TC) have been told we will be 5A next year... Would have preferred another year or 2 in 4A personally.

Have also heard a rumor that Fossil Ridge may move down to 4A again but I have no idea I'd this is true.

You should learn to hide kids better like some of the less scrupulous 4A schools *cough* Ryan *cough*.

Wrong Denton school...it's Guyer that has creative enrollment/dis enrollment ideals. Ryan HS is going up to 5a because they aren't as creative as Guyer

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Post by bronxdad 18/01/12, 01:31 pm

This guy tweeted possible alignments a month ago. Remember soccer is usually different from football alignments

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/padillapoll

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Post by socrocks 18/01/12, 01:51 pm

Gunners wrote:
Number07 wrote:We (TC) have been told we will be 5A next year... Would have preferred another year or 2 in 4A personally.

Have also heard a rumor that Fossil Ridge may move down to 4A again but I have no idea I'd this is true.

You should learn to hide kids better like some of the less scrupulous 4A schools *cough* Ryan *cough*.


Care to expand on that?

Are you suggesting a less than scrupulous attempt by a school to misrepresent enrollment...so as to gain an advantage on the fields of athletic play?
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Post by bronxdad 18/01/12, 03:39 pm

socrocks wrote:
Gunners wrote:
Number07 wrote:We (TC) have been told we will be 5A next year... Would have preferred another year or 2 in 4A personally.

Have also heard a rumor that Fossil Ridge may move down to 4A again but I have no idea I'd this is true.

You should learn to hide kids better like some of the less scrupulous 4A schools *cough* Ryan *cough*.


Care to expand on that?

Are you suggesting a less than scrupulous attempt by a school to misrepresent enrollment...so as to gain an advantage on the fields of athletic play?

not in this forum..probably said too much...already

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Post by socrocks 18/01/12, 03:43 pm

Spineless amphibian...
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Post by Pitchmon 18/01/12, 06:51 pm

bronxdad wrote:This guy tweeted possible alignments a month ago. Remember soccer is usually different from football alignments

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/padillapoll

All district alignments are the same for all sports
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Post by Gunners 18/01/12, 06:52 pm

Pitchmon wrote:
bronxdad wrote:This guy tweeted possible alignments a month ago. Remember soccer is usually different from football alignments

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/padillapoll

All district alignments are the same for all sports

Incorrect.

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