Re: 06 Scores 09/21 & 09/23

by Guest 22/09/13, 10:08 pm

Get the Record Straight wrote:I will set the record straight. Rockwall is correct Sting pulled their goalie and played one girl down and had to pass the ball 5 times before they scored. On top of that he moved all his girls around while some of his top players watched from the bench. The fault come from the other coach for putting his team in the top platinum 06 league at SDL. Then fault also comes from the league for not moving this team from his division after the first or second week. ROCKWALL made a rookie mistake by listing the score but he was only following directions by Borussia. Who I think we would yall agree is the biggest instigator on the 06 forum lol. Keep it up Borussia!! As far as to rehash an old tournament that is petty! Especially when you have the facts wrong. You must of " mis remembered" The ref called the game on the field the girls all met in the middle and shook hands with yalls team. Then Sting did their after game cheered and got their soccer bags and " Walked off the field". They all took their gear off and one by one got their Trophies. At the end everyone had their trophies and took pictures it was only when Sting all started leaving that a parent start to complain and your coach followed suit. By then the team was halfway in the parking lot and some were hurrying to get to their old girls soccer game that day that some of your parents started to attack our parent verbally. Which was not the first time this has happened. The refs made a mistake but your coach should of caught it while we were still on the field after the game which was about 15 mins. You pay your coach to know the situation of the game so fault her not Sting. By the way Chacon was not even coaching that day he had an 04 game. The team was coached by two volunteer parents. Chacon coached the first game in the tournament which Sting won 4-0 or did you mis remembered that one too! Ok enough digs lets just play soccer and get along. McDaniel is a very good coach you can tell with her girls play on the field. Lets just keep it on the field and enjoy the girls playing their heart out. I am sure we will see each other down the road. Two top teams playing to make each team better isn't that what it is all about!!! Not petty digs and grown parent yelling and fighting. This is a great group of 06 teams and we have a chance to be great if we continue to play each other but please not with all the madness. Lets be examples to the other younger groups.

Most scores are sent via PM. A 26-0 score is one that should have probably been sent via PM. Your friend Rockwall felt otherwise and added emphasis to that ... "(yes that is really the score").

Galaxy shouldnt be in the 9v9 league correct

by Get the Record Straight 22/09/13, 10:17 pm

That is why I put down rookie mistake he is not aware of the underlying rules of the game. Lets move on and talk about how you are going to set up the great 06 tournament.

by Guest 22/09/13, 10:23 pm

"Underlying rules" How about class, or common sense?

by Guest 22/09/13, 10:25 pm

I thought I was only an instigator? Ill just go back to instigating and leave the tourney play to you. I havent had a single coach call asking, they all know how to reach me if they want. Till then its just a bunch of us parents blowing smoke.

by Guest 22/09/13, 10:33 pm

Marley Cannonball

by Rockwall 22/09/13, 10:38 pm

THESWEEPER wrote:"Underlying rules" How about class, or common sense?

Again swamper, glasshouses and all that. Swamper, you might want to stop reading now as some of this will be over your head.

Borussia, I admit to a rookie mistake in saying the score, and yes I stated the results were not a typo for a purpose. In another thread of yours I discussed that the weighting and averaging you utilize in your models can and do make the results you publish. I recall once or perhaps twice in the past a goal differential greater than ten being reported (I must say that nothing was stated contrarian about that). Additionally, I was not aware of a "cut off" for the differential of goals (maximum), so to populate your model, with constraints unknown, I reported the score.
Will I do that again in the future, hell no! Will I provide any scores? probably not, as I don't want to have to defend myself to "individuals" like swifter.

by Guest 22/09/13, 10:45 pm

Please stop posting.

by Rockwall 22/09/13, 10:47 pm

THESWEEPER wrote:Please stop posting.

Ditto, you brought it up "champ"

by Guest 22/09/13, 10:53 pm

The reason for the information I provided on the score differential was because of information provided to me by the creator of FBR and what a score like that would do to the whole damn enchilada.

BW has been kind enough to hold my hand on this as I familiarize myself with the inner workings of FBR.

Did I poke fun at you, oh yeah, but I hear you are man enough to take a little light hearted hummor and roll with it.

My buddy Get the record straight knows me well enough to know its all in good fun. Dont you.. no more 530am text messages homeboy! HAHA

by Rockwall 22/09/13, 11:07 pm

Borussia wrote:The reason for the information I provided on the score differential was because of information provided to me by the creator of FBR and what a score like that would do to the whole damn enchilada.

BW has been kind enough to hold my hand on this as I familiarize myself with the inner workings of FBR.

Did I poke fun at you, oh yeah, but I hear you are man enough to take a little light hearted hummor and roll with it.

My buddy Get the record straight knows me well enough to know its all in good fun. Dont you.. no more 530am text messages homeboy! HAHA

Lol, no worries, was not I at 5:30 am, lol.
It was my own ignorance as to the cut off for maximum goal differential. I actually love what you are doing by tracking things, makes things fun.

Swapper had to throw his unrelated crap into the mix to muddy a pretty cool statistical exercise.

Keep it up.

by Guest 22/09/13, 11:10 pm

No, the 530am referrence was for Get the record straight. He should have created an alias to post that. Haha good one though!

by Rockwall 22/09/13, 11:15 pm

es ist alles gut! (In the spirit of your sig,lol)

by Cmon_Man 22/09/13, 11:47 pm

. [/quote]Lol, ok corky:

#2.) the sting team moved their offensive players to defense and defense to offense and they played with a five pass rule before scoring. ( you really should have a clue of what you speak of before running your pie hole)
[/quote]
OK not taking sides here as it is all ridiculous (if half of any of this crap is true between these two teams what a joke)....sure makes me more thankful for our coach and STABLE parents.

That said I have to call major BS to the statement made above (or at least the the impression this person tried to give). Or maybe better said at what point did your coach implement a 5 pass rule? Anyone who has ever coached knows you cannot score a goal evey two minute or less when connecting 5 passes and i dont care how good your players are(pretty sure FC Barcelona is busy across the pond). My guess is if the 5 pass rule was truly implemented-it was after the game was already well out of hand (and much too late).

Also what is the point of removing a goalie- the issue wasn't that the other team did not score? If you scoring a goal every two minutes there is no way the other team even saw your side of the field- what do you need a goalie for anyway? If your coach truly removed the goalie and not a field players- that really says all you need to know IMHO.

by Top Corner Goalkeepers 22/09/13, 11:52 pm

Also what person keeps score after a certain point, especially in a league where they don't keep the score. To me a coach who coaches for there ego or a parent living there dreams through there daughter

by Rockwall 22/09/13, 11:55 pm

Cmon_Man wrote:.

Lol, ok corky:

#2.) the sting team moved their offensive players to defense and defense to offense and they played with a five pass rule before scoring. ( you really should have a clue of what you speak of before running your pie hole)
[/quote]OK not taking sides here as it is all ridiculous (if half of any of this crap is true between these two teams what a joke)....sure makes me more thankful for our coach and STABLE parents.

That said I have to call major BS to the statement made above (or at least the the impression this person tried to give). Or maybe better said at what point did your coach implement a 5 pass rule? Anyone who has ever coached knows you cannot score a goal evey two minute or less when connecting 5 passes and i dont care how good your players are(pretty sure FC Barcelona is busy across the pond). My guess is if the 5 pass rule was truly implemented-it was after the game was already well out of hand (and much too late).

Also what is the point of removing a goalie- the issue wasn't that the other team did not score? If you scoring a goal every two minutes there is no way the other team even saw your side of the field- what do you need a goalie for anyway? If your coach truly removed the goalie and not a field players- that really says all you need to know IMHO.
[/quote]Did I ever once state that at 0-0 the 5pass rule was implemented, no I didn't. Sting scored a ton of goals from the outset, (as they should when the outcome is unknown ) once it became obvious is when it occurred. The pulling of the goalie was a function of our goalie, who is freaking awesome and can stop just about anything, saw zero action. I say zero because the ball never crossed the midfield line. We had a few players not at the game so she was moved up so she could do something, anything.

by Rockwall 23/09/13, 12:02 am

ukcoach wrote:Also what person keeps score after a certain point, especially in a league where they don't keep the score. To me a coach who coaches for there ego or a parent living there dreams through there daughter

Now I'm getting pissed, read what I f'ing wrote, did I ever once say the coach came dancing over and say we one 26-0!!? Seriously, read what I wrote before you run your mouth.
Or that I was standing up and saying hell yea!! As a matter of fact the little five year old boy sitting next to me was keeping score which is how I know what it was. (Literal statement )
Damn, how about berating the other teams coach for putting his team into a league it was so unqualified for? Duhh there's an idea.

Basically, after five minutes the game was over, should the Sting team have just passed for the other 45 minutes??

by futbollove 23/09/13, 05:15 am

I agree that the issue here should really be with the other coach for placing his/her team in a league that they obviously have no business participating in. Let's see if the other teams practice the same restraint being preached here when it's their turn.

by Guest 23/09/13, 05:22 am

The question may be if SDL attempted to move the team. I know for a fact there was an acknowledged issue with the squad in question when the season started because Spirit Weir picked up their first match of the 9v9 season vs Roach. Once an issue was identified the squad should have been moved. Who wants to pay for 26-0 on either end of the beat down???

by Cmon_Man 23/09/13, 05:58 am

Rockwall wrote:
ukcoach wrote:Also what person keeps score after a certain point, especially in a league where they don't keep the score. To me a coach who coaches for there ego or a parent living there dreams through there daughter
Now I'm getting pissed, read what I f'ing wrote, did I ever once say the coach came dancing over and say we one 26-0!!? Seriously, read what I wrote before you run your mouth.
Or that I was standing up and saying hell yea!! As a matter of fact the little five year old boy sitting next to me was keeping score which is how I know what it was. (Literal statement )
Damn, how about berating the other teams coach for putting his team into a league it was so unqualified for? Duhh there's an idea.

Basically, after five minutes the game was over, should the Sting team have just passed for the other 45 minutes??

Hey if you would came on here and said we just went out and played our game- the other team should not have signed up for the league fine, but you acted like the coach did everything they could not to run up score, which is not true. Originally you imply he took out the goalie to to even things out ...now you say he wanted to give this great player more work in field. If the game was over in the first 5 minutes- it is obvious that the coach did NOT implement the 5 pass rule then- so don't act like there was some major attempt to keep score down...should just say the other team signed up for the wrong league and we played our game. And blaming a 5 year old for keeping up with the score that is just sad ..Cmon man

by Rockwall 23/09/13, 06:41 am

Cmon_Man wrote:
Rockwall wrote:
ukcoach wrote:Also what person keeps score after a certain point, especially in a league where they don't keep the score. To me a coach who coaches for there ego or a parent living there dreams through there daughter
Now I'm getting pissed, read what I f'ing wrote, did I ever once say the coach came dancing over and say we one 26-0!!? Seriously, read what I wrote before you run your mouth.
Or that I was standing up and saying hell yea!! As a matter of fact the little five year old boy sitting next to me was keeping score which is how I know what it was. (Literal statement )
Damn, how about berating the other teams coach for putting his team into a league it was so unqualified for? Duhh there's an idea.

Basically, after five minutes the game was over, should the Sting team have just passed for the other 45 minutes??

Hey if you would came on here and said we just went out and played our game- the other team should not have signed up for the league fine, but you acted like the coach did everything they could not to run up score, which is not true. Originally you imply he took out the goalie to to even things out ...now you say he wanted to give this great player more work in field. If the game was over in the first 5 minutes- it is obvious that the coach did implement the 5 pass rule then- so don't act like there was some major attempt to keep score down...should just say the other team signed up for the wrong league and we played our game. And blaming a 5 year old for keeping up with the score that is just sad ..Cmon man

Not blaming the 5 year old, lol, he was simply saying out loud what it was. Period. It was not a big deal.
Your other points I disagree with, you pull a goalie, well that gives the other team a greater opportunity to score. Playing the goalie in an upfield position, just gives her the opportunity to do something other than stand around.
I will admit to not fully being educated on all the unwritten protocols surrounding a situation such as this and wish I had not even responded to this thread to begin with, it was not once mean to offend anyone.
So with that, I have wasted enough time on this issue.

by Guest 23/09/13, 06:52 am

One last one, since I am the #1 06 instigator!! haha

Instead of pulling the goalie, why couldnt he have played 5v9 or 4v9 or hell, pause the game for a "water break" and mix the two teams up and let them go at it then. Chacons D plays for Galaxy and Galaxys D plays for Chacon. Get my drift.. it is supposed to be about development.

Wasnt there a news piece about a girls basketball score being 100-0, does this fall within the same realm??

by Top Corner Goalkeepers 23/09/13, 07:21 am

For me the fact that you believed 5 year old when he said the score was 26-0 is where i think you made the mistake. I coach 5-6 year olds all the time and nearly all them make the score or points seem more than they actually did. Also to have a 5 year old sit there for 44 minutes counting goals i can't see that happening, so i think someone else kept score.

by Guest 23/09/13, 07:24 am

Actually, its 58 minutes. 29 minute 9v9 halves. cyclops

by OneOnOne 23/09/13, 07:41 am

From Rockwall- "Basically, after five minutes the game was over, should the Sting team have just passed for the other 45 minutes??"

Short, easy, classy, respectful answer: Yes.

by Guest 23/09/13, 07:50 am

The deushiest part about this whole thing is that either ROCKWALL, another parent from the team, or CHACON actually kept track OF ALL 26 GOALS.

"What's the score?" "It's like 22 to 0" "3 more we are at the quarter century mark" "are you sure it's 26 I counted 28?"

YOU actually keeping track of 26 goals speaks volumes fort that was truly your intent.

by The_Dude 23/09/13, 09:14 am

Wow.. you guys were fired up last night huh.

TBT (truth be told) GetItStraight's account of the May PT tourney is 99% correct.. the only part he left out, which he might not have been aware of (not saying he should have), was that McDaniel's parents were trying to get the ref's attention, up until Sting received their trophies.. but he kept blowing them off. By the time the tourney official/head ref got involved, Sting was wrapping up their ceremony, which by then was too late, no question. The head ref said a re-kick was in order, but both teams would have to consent. Words were then exchanged by both sides.. end of story.

To Rockwall.. I feel bad that you are being blasted a bit, but let's not pretend that you are an innocent bystander. If you'll check the FBR thread, you brought up the Thanksgiving thing all by yourself.. not in response to anyone.

Rockwall wrote:Seriously, you have McDaniel above Sting East Chacon, ughhhh No not even close. Not At all.... I can buy off on your choice for first, second I could argue both ways, but McDaniel? Maybe if you are voting on which coach will stomp off the field leaving their girls behind after a loss...

Don't blast others w/o provocation like TO then scratch your head when it happens to you. Just saying brother.. time to let it go, agreed?

On the 26-0 game, I put this squarely on both coaches. Why not walk over at half-time or as suggested take a water break and discuss options coach to coach? There is nothing to gain from a game like this on either side.

Last and not least to everyone.. follow our DD's lead and let them simply play the game. Our time passed long ago.. it's their turn. Smile

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