LH D-3 Four open spots-who gets in?

soccerjack wrote:

HeadHaunter wrote:

soccerjack wrote:

2girls wrote:It's 'anointed' .... Now get back to prognosticating on 11 year old girls soccer

You're right...not much left to discuss here. If your dd is on one of the "annoited" teams above she will be in d-3 next year. If not...well she better be trying to get on one of them. Case closed.

Or at 11/12, she continues to enjoy the beautiful game of soccer and continues to develop without adult intervention and worrying about how much "said parent" can pound their chest about the team their DD plays on.  Who cares?  As long as the kid is playing and learning NOW cause in a few years it won't matter what happened today, only that they developed in a way that made them successful and that, generally, will have nothing to do with what League or Division they've played in.  The key is if they continue to enjoy the game without burning out and develop in a way that makes them more confident in their own skills and decision making. Then anything can happen...seen it first hand, players that didn't join club until they were 14 and did just fine getting scholarships and others that started club at 7 and burned out by 14 so they quit - which one would you rather have?  Maybe that's why parents push so hard for the "win now" scenario, cause there's a good chance their kid won't be playing soccer in two or three years.

That's a bunch of BS.  This is about D-1 Scholarships...If your kid didn't hit puberty when she was nine...she's out...If she's not in LH this year...Good luck ain't gonna happen next year.  NOW is the time, find the LH team with the biggest most athletic kids on it and go there NOW!  Next years D-3 teams have already been chosen....seek them out now.

Nice sarcasm - I hope... 

HeadHaunter wrote:

soccerjack wrote:

2girls wrote:It's 'anointed' .... Now get back to prognosticating on 11 year old girls soccer

You're right...not much left to discuss here. If your dd is on one of the "annoited" teams above she will be in d-3 next year. If not...well she better be trying to get on one of them. Case closed.

Or at 11/12, she continues to enjoy the beautiful game of soccer and continues to develop without adult intervention and worrying about how much "said parent" can pound their chest about the team their DD plays on.  Who cares?  As long as the kid is playing and learning NOW cause in a few years it won't matter what happened today, only that they developed in a way that made them successful and that, generally, will have nothing to do with what League or Division they've played in.  The key is if they continue to enjoy the game without burning out and develop in a way that makes them more confident in their own skills and decision making. Then anything can happen...seen it first hand, players that didn't join club until they were 14 and did just fine getting scholarships and others that started club at 7 and burned out by 14 so they quit - which one would you rather have?  Maybe that's why parents push so hard for the "win now" scenario, cause there's a good chance their kid won't be playing soccer in two or three years.

Or, your dd can play on a team that loses most of their games, but the coach says he is stressing "development".  However, a good number of the girls mess around at practices, or simply are there to have fun, or are just not as serious about it as your dd,  and while your dd is learning some skills, she becomes increasingly frustrated at others who are on her team who are not as serious about it as she is.  Her TEAMmates don't develop, and more and more your dd leaves them behind.  You know that development is important, so you continue to leave her on a team that isn't developing with her.  So she gets frustrated that she has to put of with this crap year after year, and eventually just quits.  

Which do you think is more likely - your scenario or mine?

There are plenty of teams who develop players AND win.  The 2 are not mutually exclusive.  Do you think it is more fun to develop on a winning team, where most everyone on the team shares your dd's passion?  Or one with a losing record at a lower level, where she is not being challenged by her teammates at practice or her opponents?

HeadHaunter wrote:

soccerjack wrote:

HeadHaunter wrote:

soccerjack wrote:

2girls wrote:It's 'anointed' .... Now get back to prognosticating on 11 year old girls soccer

You're right...not much left to discuss here. If your dd is on one of the "annoited" teams above she will be in d-3 next year. If not...well she better be trying to get on one of them. Case closed.

Or at 11/12, she continues to enjoy the beautiful game of soccer and continues to develop without adult intervention and worrying about how much "said parent" can pound their chest about the team their DD plays on.  Who cares?  As long as the kid is playing and learning NOW cause in a few years it won't matter what happened today, only that they developed in a way that made them successful and that, generally, will have nothing to do with what League or Division they've played in.  The key is if they continue to enjoy the game without burning out and develop in a way that makes them more confident in their own skills and decision making. Then anything can happen...seen it first hand, players that didn't join club until they were 14 and did just fine getting scholarships and others that started club at 7 and burned out by 14 so they quit - which one would you rather have?  Maybe that's why parents push so hard for the "win now" scenario, cause there's a good chance their kid won't be playing soccer in two or three years.

That's a bunch of BS.  This is about D-1 Scholarships...If your kid didn't hit puberty when she was nine...she's out...If she's not in LH this year...Good luck ain't gonna happen next year.  NOW is the time, find the LH team with the biggest most athletic kids on it and go there NOW!  Next years D-3 teams have already been chosen....seek them out now.

Nice sarcasm - I hope... 

Pure sarcasm....My dd is not even involved in the upcoming QT tournament ....just killing time and getting a chuckle.  Now I am gonna have to worry about Sleeping Giants...Are they like "Annoited" White Walkers?

Hey, the weather for the QT's has a chance to be cooler this year.

Zizou wrote:Hey, the weather for the QT's has a chance to be cooler this year.

Cooler temps bring higher humidity and skeeters so be careful what you wish for...

Sounds like the field might be narrowed – any thoughts 2girls?

Hearing a couple teams have had multiple departures in the past week, and with others looking may not have enough to secure that PPL D1 slot.  Without that security, additional departures may be inevitable.

Of course, coaches of those teams may be in the know, but are keeping it close, right douche?  Plans to expand?  At this point, probably happy to not lose a team.

So...what's gonna happen with this whole LP Redknapp thing?  
Last I heard, Sting Springate was hoping to keep 75% to hang on to that bye, but the last rumors I heard is that it's unlikely.
Which means the bye stays with LP, where there doesn't even have to be 1 returning player to retain the bye (which I disagree with, mind you)...but rules are rules I guess.

If Sting does not get the 75%...what LP team will be taking over the D2 bye?  And how competitive will they be?

Does Sting then need to enter the QT to try and get a D3 spot?  

In my perfect world...if Sting does not hold 75%, and LP does not hold N+1, then both teams go to QT and the D2 spot is vacated...everything shifts up, and an additional spot in D3 opens up.  But that makes too much common sense for a politically based organization.

I would guess that in the absence of 50% Redknapp players that St John would move up with Raisbeck taking their D3 spot.

I don't believe that Raisbeck can just move into St. John's spot. It would have to be a forfeit of the D3 bye...correct?

I would assume from the business side LP will fill the old rednapp team with new kids...3 teams equals MO money. I think LH has the right to move them down to D-3 if the team is not as competitive as before. I did hear, don't know if it's true, that another D-2 team might not be back which I think would move up another D-3 team to D-2 and create another D-3 spot. Again I have no idea how true that is about the D-2 team...very good team and stinks if they do disband.

I agree on the LP business stuff...
Take the top "N-1" of St. John, plus the top 3 from Raisbeck, and form a new D2 team...then either backfill St. John with Raisbeck players or fill with recruits. Leaves St. John weaker and Raisbeck significantly weaker...but adds the revenue. Could make for some very unhappy parents in LP world though...could make them feel like they are walking alone.

That'll be tough since they are geographically separated. May be best just to give Raisbeck D2 bye.

...and for those who would say that there is not much difference between the bottom end of D1 and D2/3..

http://www.txsoccer.net/t27238-liverpool-fc-04-classic-d2-open-session  Tom Blencoe coached LP Carragher last season in PPL D1. Looks to me like they may try to combine a couple of teams and add some players to fill the D2 spot? Regardless, it looks like LP is assuming they have the D2 spot locked up?

KnKsDad wrote:...and for those who would say that there is not much difference between the bottom end of D1 and D2/3..

I think they were just referring to the team you represent not the other d-1 teams. lol!:

Having fun with ya knk. Really like your team.

No worries Jack. When that avatar first hit the scene I knew you were one not to take too serious..lol  I might would like your team too...if I knew who it was. And I just know they are only talking about our team when someone says something like "if you take out the top 6 teams in D1 there is very little difference between the rest of the teams in LH" because who else could they be talking about?

curious and maybe you people know. if a d1 ppl makes it to lh. does the lh automatically take their spot? also if a d1 ppl team makes lh does the club keep the d1 bye? or is it filled with the team coming down?

Woohoo, I think this thread will answer your questions:

http://www.txsoccer.net/t25054-lhgcl-to-ppl-curiosity

Woohoo select soccer wrote:curious and maybe you people know. if a d1 ppl makes it to lh.  does the lh automatically take their spot? also if a d1 ppl team makes lh does the club keep the d1 bye?  or is it filled with the team coming down?

From what's been posted on the board, the club keeps the bye. If a lh team doesn't get back in ppl puts them wherever they want not in the vacated spot. The board has already decided who will get in though. Unless your dd is on one of those teams I wouldn't worry about it.

lol

So does that mean a ppl FCD team has a shot? I don't know enough about this so was hoping you could help explain it?

isawthelight wrote:So does that mean a ppl FCD team has a shot? I don't know enough about this so was hoping you could help explain it?

No. Most FC Dallas teams prefer ppl given the location and smaller fields.

What I believe happens to a former LH team is that they are forced to play the PPL QT at which point PPL can decide which level to place them depending upon which level has availability. Chances are that there will be a team or two from the PPL D1 that will earn a LH spot based upon their performance in the LH QT. I believe PPL also has N+1 rules that Dribble any team that is losing a certain number of player to have to reQualify via the QT. There's a lot of LH and PPL teams having player loss so there's no guarantee that a former LH team is even a PPL D1 team anymore.

CBTeamworks wrote:What I believe happens to a former LH team is that they are forced to play the PPL QT at which point PPL can decide which level to place them depending upon which level has availability. Chances are that there will be a team or two from the PPL D1 that will earn a LH spot based upon their performance in the LH QT. I believe PPL also has N+1 rules that Dribble any team that is losing a certain number of player to have to reQualify via the QT. There's a lot of LH and PPL teams having player loss so there's no guarantee that a former LH team is even a PPL D1 team anymore.

Do tell. Seems like it's the same 10 kids going from practice to practice. Which team do you think has changed the most?

jibjab2 wrote:

isawthelight wrote:So does that mean a ppl FCD team has a shot? I don't know enough about this so was hoping you could help explain it?

No.  Most FC Dallas teams prefer ppl given the location and smaller fields.

LOL...He hates FCD.

I Would love to see FCD Central get in, they truly try to play good soccer.