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Post by smugrr 31/07/18, 09:45 am

As someone new to this, why does Girls Classic set up one large, 20 team first division for the U-11's? They then create two divisions after that year. It seems like this leads to some mismatches when a highly ranked team plays number 19 or 20.

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Post by soccerjack 31/07/18, 10:25 am

Because it's downright funny watching 12 yr old girls lose a game 0-8 and get completely demoralized.
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Post by CATX 31/07/18, 10:25 am

From my perspective as a parent of an 07 it gives teams an opportunity that may have had either a great\bad tournament an opportunity to show if they are truly a D1 team after a full season. Seeding, weather etc always gets complained about every QT year so to me the 20 makes sense. It definitely shakes out the contenders after the first season.

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Post by soccerjack 31/07/18, 10:35 am

Stay positive the forecast has been calling for hell to freeze over for a while now.
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Post by Yo 31/07/18, 11:03 am

smugrr wrote:As someone new to this, why does Girls Classic set up one large, 20 team first division for the U-11's? They then create two divisions after that year.  It seems like this leads to some mismatches when a highly ranked team plays number 19 or 20.

There is no good reason. Everybody gets a medal.

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Post by Zizou 31/07/18, 11:20 am

CATX wrote:From my perspective as a parent of an 07 it gives teams an opportunity that may have had either a great\bad tournament an opportunity to show if they are truly a D1 team after a full season. Seeding, weather etc always gets complained about every QT year so to me the 20 makes sense. It definitely shakes out the contenders after the first season.

20 teams in division one the first year of select creates as others have stated “ complete ass woopens” if you look at past results #15 and up have horrible seasons. The top 13 may change a little but not enough to justify 20 teams.

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Post by Zizou 31/07/18, 11:24 am

A solution might be division one 9,10 play division two 1,2 play-off. Division two 9,10 play Division three 1,2 play-off. Division three 9,10 play re-qualifier.

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Post by boflc 31/07/18, 03:23 pm

Zizou wrote:A solution might be division one 9,10 play division two 1,2 play-off. Division two 9,10 play Division three 1,2 play-off. Division three 9,10 play re-qualifier.

I believe you're proposing a relegation/promotion play-off.  If so, I'm a big fan of this.  It'd certainly help teams/families comprehend where they actually sit.

Of course, in the 1:1e9 chance something like this ever went into place, they'd have to lock down the whole CPP/ghost thing.  And of course, that'd never happen.  :/

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Post by ekkeeper12 05/08/18, 10:00 am

boflc wrote:
Zizou wrote:A solution might be division one 9,10 play division two 1,2 play-off. Division two 9,10 play Division three 1,2 play-off. Division three 9,10 play re-qualifier.

I believe you're proposing a relegation/promotion play-off.  If so, I'm a big fan of this.  It'd certainly help teams/families comprehend where they actually sit.

Of course, in the 1:1e9 chance something like this ever went into place, they'd have to lock down the whole CPP/ghost thing.  And of course, that'd never happen.  :/
LHGCL used to challenge system like the boys top two and bottom two would play challengers had to win i believe to advance. There was also only a D! and D2 at that time

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Post by Treinador3 05/08/18, 11:55 am

ekkeeper12 wrote:
boflc wrote:
Zizou wrote:A solution might be division one 9,10 play division two 1,2 play-off. Division two 9,10 play Division three 1,2 play-off. Division three 9,10 play re-qualifier.

I believe you're proposing a relegation/promotion play-off.  If so, I'm a big fan of this.  It'd certainly help teams/families comprehend where they actually sit.

Of course, in the 1:1e9 chance something like this ever went into place, they'd have to lock down the whole CPP/ghost thing.  And of course, that'd never happen.  :/
 LHGCL used to challenge system like the boys top two and bottom two would play challengers had to win i believe to advance. There was also only a D! and D2 at that time

True. And winners of PPL and APL could also get in via a challenge game.

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Post by Zizou 05/08/18, 01:56 pm

Treinador3 wrote:
ekkeeper12 wrote:
boflc wrote:
Zizou wrote:A solution might be division one 9,10 play division two 1,2 play-off. Division two 9,10 play Division three 1,2 play-off. Division three 9,10 play re-qualifier.

I believe you're proposing a relegation/promotion play-off.  If so, I'm a big fan of this.  It'd certainly help teams/families comprehend where they actually sit.

Of course, in the 1:1e9 chance something like this ever went into place, they'd have to lock down the whole CPP/ghost thing.  And of course, that'd never happen.  :/
 LHGCL used to challenge system like the boys top two and bottom two would play challengers had to win i believe to advance. There was also only a D! and D2 at that time

True.  And winners of PPL and APL could also get in via a challenge game.

Yeah wishful thinking! They would to go through the qualifier into division three.

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Post by Treinador3 05/08/18, 01:59 pm

Zizou wrote:
Treinador3 wrote:
ekkeeper12 wrote:
boflc wrote:
Zizou wrote:A solution might be division one 9,10 play division two 1,2 play-off. Division two 9,10 play Division three 1,2 play-off. Division three 9,10 play re-qualifier.

I believe you're proposing a relegation/promotion play-off.  If so, I'm a big fan of this.  It'd certainly help teams/families comprehend where they actually sit.

Of course, in the 1:1e9 chance something like this ever went into place, they'd have to lock down the whole CPP/ghost thing.  And of course, that'd never happen.  :/
 LHGCL used to challenge system like the boys top two and bottom two would play challengers had to win i believe to advance. There was also only a D! and D2 at that time

True.  And winners of PPL and APL could also get in via a challenge game.

Yeah wishful thinking! They would to go through the qualifier into division three.

Nope. A team I coached won PPL, challenged into D2 and eventually wound up D1. There was no D3. Before your time I guess.

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Post by Zizou 05/08/18, 10:04 pm

Damn, showing your age a lot has changed.

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Post by ekkeeper12 06/08/18, 12:28 am

Zizou wrote:Damn, showing your age a lot has changed.
Challenge system was †he norm until about 2006... 2005/2006 when academy started becoming bigger and u11 added d3. Shoot when I started playing competitive soccer d 1 and d2 then Arlington and Plano yes everything was a challenge system. I actually prefer how it used to be lol but will likely never be that way again. The first gk i trained were 95's/96's

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