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Post by sccrprntsrcrazy 15/09/13, 11:38 am

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pro16 wrote:For you maybe it's reality in your adult world, but it shouldn't happen from a coach with 11/12 year olds.  There's no place for it under any circumstance because they're not adults; they're bot ecen teenagers or young adults. And whether it happens "a lot" or only once, it's wrong. If I were to ever hear a teacher (as tiu auggest) say what this coach has said with F-bombs and other things, my 11/12 year old wouldnt be there period. It's not reality and things just don't happen. There is a major issue when a grown man or woman can't manage himself or herself in that role; especially with pre-teens.

This is not the first time for this coach so lets not live in a bubble. Unfortunately many parents today have grown silent and passive; choosing to to turn their heads as if nothing has happened or it's no big deal.....Really? Their the future; so how are we going to teach them.....

Yes, parents should parent. Novel idea.
The only reason that the coaches behavior is under question is because the team has lost two in a row.  If they win next week, this may go away until the next loss.  

The parents, although they have not approved of their coaches behavior have sat quietly because of the end result; wins. These parents should be ashamed and likely are ashamed.   Now their girls are stuck in contracts with a coach who offers them nothing.  Will any step up?  I believe a small group will ban together and take this forward to improve the situation.  Remember when a small group of Solar parents rose up to remove  their daughters' coach when his behavior (and other team mom's) became exposed?

What is it with NTX soccer?  In the last year, we have had at least two coaches who's documented and admitted ill behavior has boiled over.
It amazes me also what the parent's tolerate from these coaches. If the parent's that do stand up too these coaches are mostly labeled as "Trouble Parents" or "Crazy Parents".  There a good team, if i was a parent and fed up with the bad behavior from Higg, i would be making a move to see if Hassan would put Roderick Scott as the coach, before i would see the team crumble at the end of the year.

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Post by hombre 15/09/13, 11:41 am

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hombre wrote:Yeah so there was a big shove by Higg. So what? .
Well if this is now acceptable behavior for youth coaches things have gone south.  And so what?....well let me ask you - I guess if this behavior is acceptable for Higgs- I guess it is acceptable for the other coach, correct?  And if the other coach responded in kind yesterday are we not likely talking about something far uglier this morning?
I think I said it wrong. No, it aint right to have shoving matches between coaches. Its stupid and a horrible role model moment. I'm very glad the other coach was more grown up. All I'm saying is regrettable moments do happen once in a while under stressful situations to the best of us. I'm just trying to point out the F-bomb speeches to your own kids is a whole different level of stupidity because the coach has time to think about it a lot more and still goes through with it. That said to be fair, I wasn't there for any of this stupidity.
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Post by Urajoke 15/09/13, 11:42 am

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hombre wrote:Yeah so there was a big shove by Higg. So what? .
Well if this is now acceptable behavior for youth coaches things have gone south.  And so what?....well let me ask you - I guess if this behavior is acceptable for Higgs- I guess it is acceptable for the other coach, correct?  And if the other coach responded in kind yesterday are we not likely talking about something far uglier this morning?
Yeah if there was a big shove it is a big deal.  If a parent did that to another parent or to a coach on the sideline would you be saying the same thing Hombre? It IS is a big deal.  This coach's language is also a big deal.   His team doesn't look like they are responding well to his bullying ways.


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Post by vwrocket 15/09/13, 12:52 pm

In the 70's we had Watergate, the 80's the Iran-Contra scandal, the 90's and 00's take your pick. When we are old and gray and all of our daughters are starters on the National team we will always be able to look back at August 14, 2013 at approx 12:24 as "Shovegate 2K13"

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Post by Referee 15/09/13, 01:04 pm

Let's get back to the games.
What was more surprising?
Andromeda's upset over DT South?
Rush victory over Texans?
Sting tie vs Solar Red?
To me it was Andromeda's upset, followed by Sting tie. Really didn't expect either.

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Post by Guess Who 15/09/13, 01:34 pm

Referee wrote:Let's get back to the games.  
 What was more surprising?
 Andromeda's upset over DT South?
 Rush victory over Texans?
 Sting tie vs Solar Red?
 To me it was Andromeda's upset, followed by Sting tie.  Really didn't expect either.
All Three games were a surprise for me.
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Post by yo#10 15/09/13, 02:15 pm

sccrprntsrcrazy wrote:
Rabbit of Seville wrote:
pro16 wrote:For you maybe it's reality in your adult world, but it shouldn't happen from a coach with 11/12 year olds.  There's no place for it under any circumstance because they're not adults; they're bot ecen teenagers or young adults. And whether it happens "a lot" or only once, it's wrong. If I were to ever hear a teacher (as tiu auggest) say what this coach has said with F-bombs and other things, my 11/12 year old wouldnt be there period. It's not reality and things just don't happen. There is a major issue when a grown man or woman can't manage himself or herself in that role; especially with pre-teens.

This is not the first time for this coach so lets not live in a bubble. Unfortunately many parents today have grown silent and passive; choosing to to turn their heads as if nothing has happened or it's no big deal.....Really? Their the future; so how are we going to teach them.....

Yes, parents should parent. Novel idea.
The only reason that the coaches behavior is under question is because the team has lost two in a row.  If they win next week, this may go away until the next loss.  

The parents, although they have not approved of their coaches behavior have sat quietly because of the end result; wins. These parents should be ashamed and likely are ashamed.   Now their girls are stuck in contracts with a coach who offers them nothing.  Will any step up?  I believe a small group will ban together and take this forward to improve the situation.  Remember when a small group of Solar parents rose up to remove  their daughters' coach when his behavior (and other team mom's) became exposed?

What is it with NTX soccer?  In the last year, we have had at least two coaches who's documented and admitted ill behavior has boiled over.
It amazes me also what the parent's tolerate from these coaches. If the parent's that do stand up too these coaches are mostly labeled as "Trouble Parents" or "Crazy Parents".  There a good team, if i was a parent and fed up with the bad behavior from Higg, i would be making a move to see if Hassan would put Roderick Scott as the coach, before i would see the team crumble at the end of the year.
Dude-this team is already in shambles half the team hates the other half, they have major division. Many didnt want to sign papers in summer but felt it was too late to leave . Recruiting is going to be CA-PUT for next year because of Higg's behavior in games and bc individuals people just have had bad experiences and dont want to play with. This team will probably remain top ten, but unless they get their stuff together now , they will never climb back up to a top 3 team becuz people are already making plans for next season. At best they may be able to get some good 03's to play up or some from 2nd texan team .

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Post by mommabear1 15/09/13, 03:45 pm

Standing up for your daughter is harder than you think. Especially when you need to do it mid fall season. Most teams are full or even if they have a spot...may not need a player for the position your daughter is best at. We did what we felt was the right thing and left in late Sept last year due to the fact we felt the Coach's behaivor and basic philosophies would be detrimental to our dd. It's been a hard road and it has hurt her. 1st, had to go to a team that wasn't LHGCL (qualifying rule). 2nd, she didn't get to play her normal position at the new team. This summer she had to try to prove herself again and even Coaches that had seen her play in the past and knew what she could do were afraid to take a chance on her because she was "rusty" at her old position. She has gone from D1 to D3 but luckily she did find a coach who believed in her and she is doing very well.

My point is...it is hard when you are standing alone to do what you think is right....so don't judge. I'm sure some Higgy parents wish they had a "do over", but it isn't as easy as you would think....especially only 3 or 4 months into your contract.

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Post by hombre 15/09/13, 04:01 pm

Guess Who wrote:
Referee wrote:Let's get back to the games.  
 What was more surprising?
 Andromeda's upset over DT South?
 Rush victory over Texans?
 Sting tie vs Solar Red?
 To me it was Andromeda's upset, followed by Sting tie.  Really didn't expect either.
All Three games were a surprise for me.
I'd say the biggest surprise was Andro over South. South has been strong recently. People were expecting them to challenge for top slot. Did Andro just gel or did they pick up some new blood over the summer? While the other two were surprises, Sting tie with Red is real interesting. Sting has good defense but Red had best defense in terms of goals allowed last year after the big 2. Sting putting two goals in on Red is big time impressive. Best part is it looks like the D1 is going to be more even than everybody thought. Might be looking at upsets every weekend.
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Post by Referee 15/09/13, 04:30 pm

My thoughts exactly. So far Premier is looking good but they've had a relatively easy schedule. The wannabes are coming up next for them and it should get very interesting. I think both Andromeda and Sting have to come through the hard part of the schedule with a decent record to be considered top 5.

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Post by Guest 15/09/13, 09:20 pm

"It amazes me also what the parent's tolerate from these coaches. If the parent's that do stand up too these coaches are mostly labeled as "Trouble Parents" or "Crazy Parents".  There a good team, if i was a parent and fed up with the bad behavior from Higg, i would be making a move to see if Hassan would put Roderick Scott as the coach, before i would see the team crumble at the end of the year".

Outstanding suggestion!!! Roderick is an excellent coach. Higg is clearly in violation of LHGCL rules, with many that witnessed it. I'll be interested to see if LHGCL has the courage of their convictions. I suspect they don't.

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Post by loveme1 16/09/13, 01:44 am

I think the topic here is that by Higg shoving Johnny yesterday at the game he committed an assault....period. And he did this in front of four teams basically. (A game ended and one was about to begin). This is a great group of kids and parents. I know everyone likes to hate the Texans but these are twelve year old kids. Hopefully they stay together and keep playing with each other. NTSA should and probably will kick Higg out of the LHGCL for a very long time and maybe forever. Even the powers that be over at the Texans won't be able to over look this. This girls will have a new coach that will be probably be announced as early as tomorrow.

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Post by pitchafit 16/09/13, 07:52 am

I think this was just one of those crazy soccer weeks.. A loss for both Texans, a tie for SRSA.. Maybe this is just one weird kink and next week it will be back to normal.
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Post by dirknowitzki 16/09/13, 09:18 am

The Texans are smart at damage control. If they change coaches, it ain't going to hurt Higg. They will swap a few teams around and sell the parents on it. Business as usual. Money continues to flow. Kids perform better with a fresh coach. Parents feel better. Everybody is happy again. Welcome to big club soccer Texans style.
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Post by happygilmore 16/09/13, 10:25 am

I think all the lastest events have just brought some issues to the surface and there are definate issues as there would be when you have had  same kids and parents together this long.  As a coach Higg is great , our girls like him and like that he is demanding of their best. He runs great practices and I think if a change is made the girls would be upset and parents too. I think you will always have a few upset if little Suzy isnt starting or playing enough, but overall we like him and the progress the girls have made. I hope to have him as our coach.But I also think if Teaxns clean house then they really need to clean house or same issues will arise again. I do find it disheartening that the teams latest issues have become entertainment for most. But maybe thats just fair play.

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Post by oldboot 16/09/13, 11:05 am

pitchafit wrote:I think this was just one of those crazy soccer weeks.. A loss for both Texans, a tie for SRSA.. Maybe this is just one weird kink and next week it will be back to normal.
Come on - the vast majority of loyal readers of this fine informational website don't want things "back to normal." Normal is boring and makes for dull posts. When everything is normal, I have nothing to do but focus on my job so I can feed my family.
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Post by GrandTXSoccer 16/09/13, 01:32 pm

I have no doubt Lake Highlands will take care of it, however be sure to bring cash as everything they do requires a cash payment of some sorts, at least that's the way I remember them. Maybe they've changed.

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Post by hombre 16/09/13, 07:30 pm

happygilmore wrote:I think all the lastest events have just brought some issues to the surface and there are definate issues as there would be when you have had  same kids and parents together this long.  As a coach Higg is great , our girls like him and like that he is demanding of their best. He runs great practices and I think if a change is made the girls would be upset and parents too. I think you will always have a few upset if little Suzy isnt starting or playing enough, but overall we like him and the progress the girls have made. I  hope to have him as our coach.But I also think if Teaxns clean house then they really need to clean house or same issues will arise again. I do find it disheartening that the teams latest issues have become entertainment for most. But maybe thats just fair play.
When you are the king of the hill team from last season, a lot of people want to try and stir issues. Not fun. Hope it works out well in the end.
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Post by soccerdad19 17/09/13, 12:55 pm

loveme1 wrote:I think the topic here is that by Higg shoving Johnny yesterday at the game he committed an assault....period. And he did this in front of four teams basically. (A game ended and one was about to begin). This is a great group of kids and parents. I know everyone likes to hate the Texans but these are twelve year old kids. Hopefully they stay together and keep playing with each other. NTSA should and probably will kick Higg out of the LHGCL for a very long time and maybe forever. Even the powers that be over at the Texans won't be able to over look this. This girls will have a new coach that will be probably be announced as early as tomorrow.
You seemed pretty certain of an imminent change?  Any update?

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Post by whoshotjr 17/09/13, 05:34 pm

soccerdad19 wrote:
loveme1 wrote:I think the topic here is that by Higg shoving Johnny yesterday at the game he committed an assault....period. And he did this in front of four teams basically. (A game ended and one was about to begin). This is a great group of kids and parents. I know everyone likes to hate the Texans but these are twelve year old kids. Hopefully they stay together and keep playing with each other. NTSA should and probably will kick Higg out of the LHGCL for a very long time and maybe forever. Even the powers that be over at the Texans won't be able to over look this. This girls will have a new coach that will be probably be announced as early as tomorrow.
You seemed pretty certain of an imminent change?  Any update?
Stark is or has filed a complaint .

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Post by yo#10 17/09/13, 05:38 pm

whoshotjr wrote:
soccerdad19 wrote:
loveme1 wrote:I think the topic here is that by Higg shoving Johnny yesterday at the game he committed an assault....period. And he did this in front of four teams basically. (A game ended and one was about to begin). This is a great group of kids and parents. I know everyone likes to hate the Texans but these are twelve year old kids. Hopefully they stay together and keep playing with each other. NTSA should and probably will kick Higg out of the LHGCL for a very long time and maybe forever. Even the powers that be over at the Texans won't be able to over look this. This girls will have a new coach that will be probably be announced as early as tomorrow.
You seemed pretty certain of an imminent change?  Any update?
Stark is or has filed a complaint .
As he should. Team meeting a bust- more divided than ever. Team is done, start recruiting now.

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Post by Santa Claus 02 20/09/13, 01:32 pm

Everyone knew what they were getting when RH took the team. If the parents didn't then that's on them. The stories have been out forever. His cursing at players. His lack of disregard for the parents paying his salary to teach their children a sport or skill he claims to be so great at. He is very arrogant. He lives off the National Titles of KM players. Once KM players had finally run through the program it didn't take long for Hassan to see he had made a mistake in naming RH as DOC. Ask yourself how long was RH there without a KM class? Not long at all! I hope the parents have the guts to demand a coaching change and stand up for their little girls. My guess is by the spokes mouth of the Texans " Happy Gilmore" The parents have made their mind up. Stand behind a coward that rips and cusses little girls. Wow! Hope it's worth it in the end. santa 

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Post by pitchafit 20/09/13, 01:51 pm

And who can they even complain to? Hassan is worse! SMH
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Post by Santa Claus 02 20/09/13, 01:57 pm

pitchafit wrote:And who can they even complain to? Hassan is worse! SMH
Hassan is a business man. If they went as a group he would make a change. Hassan sees $. Plus this is still IMO the best team in Dallas. This team will be a great ECNL team. Hassan would make a change. The parents just have to have the courage to replace RH. Would you really want your daughter learning from a man like this. It's more than just soccer. Like I said it sounds like the parents have decided to back him anyway. Sad!

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Post by yo#10 20/09/13, 04:09 pm

Santa Claus 02 wrote:Everyone knew what they were getting when RH took the team.  If the parents didn't then that's on them. The stories have been out forever. His cursing at players. His lack of disregard for the parents paying his salary to teach their children a sport or skill he claims to be so great at. He is very arrogant. He lives off the National Titles of KM players.  Once KM players had finally run through the program it didn't take long for Hassan to see he had made a mistake in naming RH as DOC. Ask yourself how long was RH there without a KM class? Not long at all! I hope the parents have the guts to demand a coaching change and stand up for their little girls. My guess is by the spokes mouth of the Texans " Happy Gilmore"  The parents have made their mind up. Stand behind a coward that rips and cusses little girls. Wow! Hope it's worth it in the end. santa 
It is a case of weak people, scared people and in some cases immoral ) . Some girls get decent treatment bc their parents wouldnt dream of speaking up -dont want to offend the almight- It turns into certain people speaking up (either privately or publically) who cant handle treatment, then in turn their kids are made examples of-screamed at, demoralized -lose starting spots, put in no win situations in games so coach can prove his point. Happens all the time. You call him out your kid gets the wrath. So if your trying to make it work or even stick it out till possible new coach comes it can be hell for your kid. Like standing up to a bully but your kid get the punishment not you..

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Post by Referee 20/09/13, 04:25 pm

What's wrong with you people? Think of it as anybody mistreating your kid, and on top of it paying for it. I would jump his a#& and raise a big stink. Where's your dignity? To hell with worried and afraid to speak up. This bully needs a kick in the rear and show him the way out. What's so wonderful about him? If your kids is as good as you say, then other teams will sign them in a heartbeat. Losing the rest of the season to me is better than having to pay him to bully your dear 12 year old and scar her for a long time. How do you know the new coach is going to mistreat your kid? Can't be any worse than already is. You guys jump his case as a group and demand a new teacher of the sport. One who has respect and treats your kids with dignity.

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