FBR 06

I am working on the FBR for the 06 girls. I have entered all the teams and I am now entering scores. After entering all the teams I have a few questions if you have answers to these please post them!!!

- I see Bellatores in UAL Platinum and then Bellatores BLACK in UAL U10 Silver; I just want to confirm these are indeed two seperate teams

- Dallas Texans 06 playing in UAL Silver A does anyone know who this coach is? This way I can identify them more easily in the list. Most teams from larger clubs have a color or coach name by them so it is easier to distinguish.

- NTFC playing in UAL U10 9V9 and NTFC 06 Black playing in PTCL I just want to confirm these are two seperate teams.

Hopefully in the next week I will be able to post an updated FBR for the 06 girls.

Can't answer Bellatores question.

Dallas Texans 06 coach - Michelle Nguyen

NTFC 06 Raiet playing UAL 05 9v9

Bellatores Black is the same team with the exception of two additional players that are only on the black team.

Now if the weather will just let the teams actually play some spring games...

Yes need the weather to get better!

Today I have entered all 06 teams.   If you are playing in SDL please PM me scores each week since they are not posted.  

I also entered all games played in league play so far for Spring and all tournament games since November.   

It will take some time for this FBR to look right.   I started from scratch!  

Bwgophers who does the 05 FBR is helping me get started.

If you have scores from SDL for Feb 21st for following games please post. Thanks.

Mutiny vs HPSA Scots

Andromeda Cooney vs LFCA Keegan Figueroa

Mutiny vs Leon Guerrero

andro 1 liverpool 0

Please do not start this back up for the 9 year-olds. The girls want to have fun, make new friends and do something they are good at.

While competition and striving for to get better are an important part of sports, as coaches and parents we need to keep the girls wants ahead of our own.

Ferenc Puskás wrote:Please do not start this back up for the 9 year-olds.  The girls want to have fun, make new friends and do something they are good at.

While competition and striving for to get better are an important part of sports, as coaches and parents we need to keep the girls wants ahead of our own.  

Okay, I'll stop.

I have the FBR ready to post. It might be better to wait until more games are played though. Many many teams do not have three games in since November.

FBR06G wrote:Many many teams do not have three games in since November.  

I think the FBR's go past the 16wk timeframe for early Spring for that reason... just not enough winter games played.  In looking at the 05 FBR, Gophers has results from mid Oct so that might be a good starting point. Otherwise, I agree.. should probably wait.

Thanks for stepping up to do this, no small task.

Ferenc Puskás wrote:Please do not start this back up for the 9 year-olds.  The girls want to have fun, make new friends and do something they are good at.

While competition and striving for to get better are an important part of sports, as coaches and parents we need to keep the girls wants ahead of our own.  

Well, hopefully there are no kids on this site looking at the FBR. For that matter,  they shouldn't even know this site or FBR even exist. FBR is strictly for entertainment purposes only. You should be able to spot who the top teams are by their play on the field. You or your DD shouldn't need FBR for that.

Yes I went back and added all tournament games and Spring games but not fall league games. Those would drop off soon anyways. I will keep a bit more than 16 weeks due to winter break until we have 16 weeks of games after winter.

Please stop ranking 3rd and 4th grade soccer teams. Please do right by our players and children, and stop this useless and damaging exercise.

The horror!!!

FBR06G wrote:Yes I went back and added all tournament games and Spring games but not fall league games.   Those would drop off soon anyways.    I will keep a bit more than 16 weeks due to winter break until we have 16 weeks of games after winter.

Seriously, thanks for picking up the reigns on this, disregard the criticism of some, the FBR keeps things interesting around here

Those wanting rankings are misguided and are not considering the well-being of the players. It is not about here and now, and certainly not about entertainment value of the FBR.

This is a forum----- if you don't like the title of the topic being discussed then just don't click on the topic. Carry on...............

The presuppositions enshrined in the FBR reflect the culture in which they were made and the society in which they are used. These embedded ideologies have no benefit to the development of the players and they do not encourage learning or positive player engagement.

Please stop ranking 9 year old players for your entertainment.

Ferenc Puskás wrote:Those wanting rankings are misguided and are not considering the well-being of the players.   It is not about here and now, and certainly not about entertainment value of the FBR.

Please elaborate on what exactly about FBR is damaging the well-being of the players.

While we're at it, lets stop the relegation/promotion concept in classic league. It basically uses a ranking system to determine who advances.

Every team should also get green ribbons for participation at the end of the season

FBR is nothing more than a exercise in statistics and probability (admittedly not particularly rigorous or disciplined, but an exercise nonetheless).

People pay attention to FBR for one reason only... Over time, it has proven to be pretty darn good at predicting which teams will qualify for LHGCL at U11.

To that extent, FBR is a symptom of the illness, not the illness itself. The illness is that the NTX girls' soccer community places a tremendous amount of emphasis starting at 10 yrs old, on placing teams into a competitive league that uses a competitive qualifying tournament and a promotion/relegation system to determine who gets into, and eventually who gets to stay in the league, and in each division within that league. Then, starting at 11 yrs. old, NTX soccer places a tremendous amount of emphasis on winning a certain tournament that happens every May.

If you think there is too much emphasis on winning over player development in NTX, this is what is causing that. Not FBR or any other kind of ranking thread on any forum out there.

FBR, and all other ranking related threads could disappear today, and it wouldn't change thing one about the NTX soccer scene. It would be akin to taking an aspirin to temporarily alleviate the headache caused by a brain tumor.

Ferenc Puskás wrote:The presuppositions enshrined in the FBR reflect the culture in which they were made and the society in which they are used.  These embedded ideologies have no benefit to the development of the players and they do not encourage learning or positive player engagement.

Please stop ranking 9 year old players for your entertainment.

Wait Ferenc; as a kid didn't you once use an alias to lie about your age so you could play up?

Hungarians...sigh...the Pariahs of Europe.  

the FBR reinforces the emphasis on results and not development, has no positive purpose for the players, and may potentially result in players dropping the sport at an early age.