04 Top 15 Rankings Wek 5

Moosh98 wrote:

2good4u wrote:Dalglish probably does have the deepest and strongest roster from player 1 through 12. That is likely a function of them starting the earliest in the academy years and having the largest pool to choose from. This helps in the games because everybody has to play. I have seen players on Solar, Rowdies, TX spirit, Fever, and DT north who are just as good or better than those on Dalglish. But in a full game, Dalglish is more likely to win.

The other X factor is the goalie. How many goals have we all seen because of a goalie mistake or a goal kick that didn't make it out of the box? Does it really mean your a better team if the other team's goalie can't pick up the ball or kicks it right to the other team? The ability of your goalie to clear the ball really makes a difference at this age. Does anybody know which teams have dedicated goalies?

Somebody mentioned Dalglish having a relatively easy time against Fever. I believe they are the only top 04 team who has played the current roster of Dalglish. My recollection is that Fever lost 3 to 1. Isn't that the same score of Rowdies against Fever? I believe the Fever team also handily beat the Beardsley team. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Ha!! Well, that was the score after the first half. The final was like 6-2

Shekicks04 wrote:

slrsoccer wrote:Lets be honest here. There are 4 teams that can beat each other on any given weekend. We've had DT South beat Dalglish in a very close game, and we've had Kenny beat Rowdies in an even closer game. We have even had Fever play Kenny very close.

Only my opinion here, but the one thing that these top teams have in common is size and athletes. The athletes will continue to be on top, but some of the dominant players now because of size will begin to even themselves out. Not one of these teams is more or less skilled than the other. These games are still dominated by 3 or 4 girls on each of these teams. We have small, EXTREMELY skilled girls who are only average right now, but will be great when everyone begins to equal out. We have big fast girls that dominate at the current moment simply because they can kick the ball 30 yards downfield. We have good goalkeepers on some teams and some that still play field players in goal.

If you really want to project what the future holds for these teams, start with the small girls who are very skilled, not the big, fast boomers that dominate right now. The skilled players are going to be the ones that add the dimension needed by ALL of these teams in a few years.

I appreciate your comment! I have a young, small 04 who has the speed and skills, but I often wonder how long her soccer career will last if size is a huge factor.

Futboler wrote:Someone a bit worked up tonight?

Moosh98 wrote:

Shelby427 wrote:

Moosh98 wrote:

Shelby427 wrote:

go99 wrote:

Shelby427 wrote:And by the way... you are quick to go on the defensive. I didn't attack anyone... merely pointing out that IMO Dalglish is over rated. In the PT tournament, they finished 7-7 goal for/against and were shut out one of those games 4-0. You could hardly say they dominated the other 04 teams.

Since then, they have played fairly poor competition in D3 03 which is essentially REC level soccer.

Yes, I am sure Dalglish is a "different" team, but I am sure ALL of the teams are improved. That being said, with the other 04s playing better competition, I think they are improving at a faster rate.

I am sorry this steps on the massive pride of several (not all) Dalglish parents, but I am just calling it like I see it.

Come on just admit it. You are "over rated" is another way of saying you are no good. It's okay that you hate a group of 7yr old girl. Talk to double DD I think he can help you thru it. BTW a better comparison may be the fever games. The daglish team is not just better since the tournament it is physically a different roster. That team did scrimmage fever and rowdies played them. It was a much tougher and closer game for the Rowdies.

But to make it easy for you, yes the coach made a horrible mistake playing them in the 03's, they will never learn now. They are no where near the other top teams now and next season they will have to drop down to the 04 Div 2 (which everbody know is rec anyway).

Let's see if I can break this down to you. "Over rated" means a team is rated or thought of as being HIGHER than it really is. This by no means equals poor or "no good".

It actually makes perfect since when you realise they are ranked or thought of as #1 when I believe them to be more like #4. #4 is lower than #1 thus the concept of overrated. I did not say they were #10 or "sucked".... just that they are at least 4 steps down from number 1... again thus overrated.

Got it... clear?

Here's one for ya! How bout you stop worrying about what Dalglish is doing, where they are ranked, who they play etc. Yall have bashed the liverpool parents when all they have really done is come on here when one of you jealous parents starts bumpin your gums about what YOUR expert opinion is, is defend their team. It is these Solar, Rowdies, South parents etc, that come on here and do the best they can to make ignorant comments about this Dalglish team to try and make them feel better about their own team. How bout let's leave Dalglish out of your rankings,a nd not worry about what they are doing. WHO CARES!!!! If it makes you feel better that YOU think they are rated 4th, good for you!! We don't really give a crap about the 04 division!! I would be SHOCKED if ANY 04 team could pull off a win against them. But you know what, I don't really care and it doesn't really matter!!! Let your DD play freakin soccer and stop crying about the Dalglish team!!

Wow...give me a break. Nobody is attacking Liverpool unless you consider someone saying they are... Wait for it... OMG.. Maybe not number 1!!! How dare they! What a horrible thing to say!!

But seriously, in case you missed it this was a rankings thread by opinion only. It really means nothing. But you saying it means nothing, then getting all pissed off that someone says LP is not #1 in their opinion says more about you than anyone else.

This was a civil thread until you came along throwing fits that some might think LP is not the best 04 team.

Thanks for your spare input Mr civilized. This Daglish team has all you 04 parents with ur panties in a wad. I don't care where you 04 parents rank them, so thanks smart ass. How bout all the 04 parents just quit crying about what WE are doing and go on with the SUPER talented 04 division. All I hear on hear is whinning about this team, its pathetic. Then I say shut up, and u come one here acting like I'm the one stirring the pot. Your a joke

2good4u wrote:Moosh, thanks for letting us know the details about your scrimmage. I'm glad you are here to clarify.

When you win, you imply it should have been more because you didn't have your best player or none of the goals were gimme's. When you lose, it's only because it was pk's or because the other team's coach walked behind your goal. Gimme a break...did you really just say that?. At least you made me laugh.

I can't wait to hear what you say the next time you lose. Oh wait, I'm sorry. You guys are so good and everybody else is so bad that will never happen.

Shelby427 wrote:

2good4u wrote:Moosh, thanks for letting us know the details about your scrimmage. I'm glad you are here to clarify.

When you win, you imply it should have been more because you didn't have your best player or none of the goals were gimme's. When you lose, it's only because it was pk's or because the other team's coach walked behind your goal. Gimme a break...did you really just say that?. At least you made me laugh.

I can't wait to hear what you say the next time you lose. Oh wait, I'm sorry. You guys are so good and everybody else is so bad that will never happen.

Most of the LP parents are cool.. if not a little arrogant, but hey, most of the parents at the other top 04 teams are too I suppose.

The difference is Moosh is almost psychotic about it, and is so blinded by his arrogance, he can't even see straight. You are EXACTLY right, Moosh ALWAYS makes excuses... lucky bounces, missing player, bad refs... ect... He can never credit another team and can't fathom any other lowly 04s being in the same LEAGUE as Dalglish, even though the facts strongly suggest otherwise.

No one in this thread attacked LP, but Moosh comes on here after a couple of folks suggest LP might not be #1 and freaks out saying people are attacking Dalglish... its sad.

Shelby427 wrote:

2good4u wrote:Moosh, thanks for letting us know the details about your scrimmage. I'm glad you are here to clarify.

When you win, you imply it should have been more because you didn't have your best player or none of the goals were gimme's. When you lose, it's only because it was pk's or because the other team's coach walked behind your goal. Gimme a break...did you really just say that?. At least you made me laugh.

I can't wait to hear what you say the next time you lose. Oh wait, I'm sorry. You guys are so good and everybody else is so bad that will never happen.

Most of the LP parents are cool.. if not a little arrogant, but hey, most of the parents at the other top 04 teams are too I suppose.

The difference is Moosh is almost psychotic about it, and is so blinded by his arrogance, he can't even see straight. You are EXACTLY right, Moosh ALWAYS makes excuses... lucky bounces, missing player, bad refs... ect... He can never credit another team and can't fathom any other lowly 04s being in the same LEAGUE as Dalglish, even though the facts strongly suggest otherwise.

No one in this thread attacked LP, but Moosh comes on here after a couple of folks suggest LP might not be #1 and freaks out saying people are attacking Dalglish... its sad.

Shelby427 wrote:

2good4u wrote:Moosh, thanks for letting us know the details about your scrimmage. I'm glad you are here to clarify.

When you win, you imply it should have been more because you didn't have your best player or none of the goals were gimme's. When you lose, it's only because it was pk's or because the other team's coach walked behind your goal. Gimme a break...did you really just say that?. At least you made me laugh.

I can't wait to hear what you say the next time you lose. Oh wait, I'm sorry. You guys are so good and everybody else is so bad that will never happen.

Most of the LP parents are cool.. if not a little arrogant, but hey, most of the parents at the other top 04 teams are too I suppose.

The difference is Moosh is almost psychotic about it, and is so blinded by his arrogance, he can't even see straight. You are EXACTLY right, Moosh ALWAYS makes excuses... lucky bounces, missing player, bad refs... ect... He can never credit another team and can't fathom any other lowly 04s being in the same LEAGUE as Dalglish, even though the facts strongly suggest otherwise.

No one in this thread attacked LP, but Moosh comes on here after a couple of folks suggest LP might not be #1 and freaks out saying people are attacking Dalglish... its sad.

yellowcard5 wrote:Mod, please lose this if for no other reason than to have these whack job '04 parents go 5 for 5 on closed threads. They are the Ted Williams of Academy Soccer forums.

Your DD's would be real proud o you guys.

04dad wrote:

yellowcard5 wrote:Mod, please lose this if for no other reason than to have these whack job '04 parents go 5 for 5 on closed threads. They are the Ted Williams of Academy Soccer forums.

Your DD's would be real proud o you guys.

The 04 parents deserve to talk about meaningless rankings like any other age group.

This thread has been very civil other than Moosh dragging in old baggage. As already proven, no one was negative about anyone until he came along... I think that is the common trait in 04 threads going off the edge.

Moosh98 wrote:

Shelby427 wrote:

2good4u wrote:Moosh, thanks for letting us know the details about your scrimmage. I'm glad you are here to clarify.

When you win, you imply it should have been more because you didn't have your best player or none of the goals were gimme's. When you lose, it's only because it was pk's or because the other team's coach walked behind your goal. Gimme a break...did you really just say that?. At least you made me laugh.

I can't wait to hear what you say the next time you lose. Oh wait, I'm sorry. You guys are so good and everybody else is so bad that will never happen.

Most of the LP parents are cool.. if not a little arrogant, but hey, most of the parents at the other top 04 teams are too I suppose.

The difference is Moosh is almost psychotic about it, and is so blinded by his arrogance, he can't even see straight. You are EXACTLY right, Moosh ALWAYS makes excuses... lucky bounces, missing player, bad refs... ect... He can never credit another team and can't fathom any other lowly 04s being in the same LEAGUE as Dalglish, even though the facts strongly suggest otherwise.

No one in this thread attacked LP, but Moosh comes on here after a couple of folks suggest LP might not be #1 and freaks out saying people are attacking Dalglish... its sad.

You guys are commical. How bout you go back over the past couple of weeks and look at ALL the threads. Its not just this one. There are several parents from other teams who brings up Dalglish. It just drives them crazy that many people pick them as #1. So they come on here and cry about this and that. Claim ANY 04 team would dominate in 03 D3, which is a joke in itself. Its not me who cant stand it, its all of the other parents full of hot air talking crap about Dalglish playing up, or Dalglish losing in the final at PT. That tourney is old news and the team is completely different now. Just sounds to me like a bunch of bitter parents. I havent started any threads or conversations. The 04 parents bring Dalglish into it. If you want to prove how great your teams are, then enter a tourney they are playing in and beat them. Otherwise dont talk about how strong the 04 group is and where you think Dalglish ranks there. They are not playing U7. LW does not care where they rank in the U7 group.... or any group for that matter. He is doing what he thinks is best to develope them, not to be on top of everyones rankings. Like I said, if you feel better ranking them #4, or talking about how much stronger the 04 division is than the division Dalglish is in, then knock yourself out. I would really prefer you rank the teams who are actually in your division and leave Dalglish out of it. It doesnt matter. It wont matter at all unless more of the U7 teams play Dalglish. If that happens, THEN rank them. Until then, leave it alone. From the talk I have heard, it sounds like it wouldnt matter what this team did from some folks anyway. They could go undefeated in the 03 D1 division and they would still have some clever comment.... well, that D1 division any 04 team would dominate. It has just gotten very old.

Ballzag wrote:Clearly someone has waaaaay too much time on your hands....and again is it an excuse if its true...no matter who says it?

SuperSoccer wrote:

Ballzag wrote:Clearly someone has waaaaay too much time on your hands....and again is it an excuse if its true...no matter who says it?

Yes Moosh, it's still an excuse.

Ballzag wrote:I have surfed around alot on these forums and have never joined or posted. I joined so I could post about this topic
Oh welcome Ballzag! You have great timing. Moosh just hung up his keyboard less than 30 minutes ago, so we need some new members.
Its obvious parents in the 04s are absolutely supportive of there kids soccer. I dont have a dd that plays for Dalglish or Solar or The Rowdies etc.
Tell me more Ballzag. I like where your story is going.
from the outside looking in its real apparent that folks are always critical of Dalglish. The rankings come out and then its a bashing Dalglish page.
Gee whiz, your right. Poor Daglish.
I watched Dalglish beat everyone in game play during SDL this season, good soccer lots of passes and good play.
Wow, that is really cool that you are able to watch all of their games yet you don't have a daughter on the Daglish team. I'm voting for you to get 04Girls fan of the year!
The coach seems to be a class act and the parents dont seem over the top during games. Sure they get a little rowdy but so do the other teams.
I think everyone should support their own and quit bashing liverpool
I couldn't agree more. Hey everyone, quit being mean to Liverpool!
Funny I dont see anything (bashing, making fun saying the Rowdies arent good etc from liverpool after there "rec" as some of you call it D2 team beat the Rowdies Red team who play D1 SDL at Pot O Gold. )
Oh, you must be referencing the fact that the Liverpool Beardsly team beat the Rowdies in the other division of the Pot O Gold 3v3 tournament. Wow, your grasp of Liverpool is amazing! If I didn't know any better, I would swear that you had a kid that played for them. Can I buy you a beer sometime?
I know its 3v3 but its still players against players!
Yes, your right, it's still players against players! You read my mind! It's almost exactly like 7v7 soccer. All of those so called soccer experts don't know what they are talking about.
Anyway good job Solar Kennington, good Job Rowdies, good job Tx Spirit and the rest! Oh and Dalglish......keep winning! and stay together this team will be even better once the chemistry gets better....
Yes, I agree. Keep winning Daglish. If they can stay together, they can do double duty. Let's get rid of the U.S. Womens National team and replace them with Daglish.

And thank you Ballzag for one of the most well written, thought out posts I have seen in a long time. It's great to see sincere human beings showing such a great concern for teams other than their own. You sir, are an inspiration to us all.

SuperSoccer wrote:

Ballzag wrote:I have surfed around alot on these forums and have never joined or posted. I joined so I could post about this topic
Oh welcome Ballzag! You have great timing. Moosh just hung up his keyboard less than 30 minutes ago, so we need some new members.
Its obvious parents in the 04s are absolutely supportive of there kids soccer. I dont have a dd that plays for Dalglish or Solar or The Rowdies etc.
Tell me more Ballzag. I like where your story is going.
from the outside looking in its real apparent that folks are always critical of Dalglish. The rankings come out and then its a bashing Dalglish page.
Gee whiz, your right. Poor Daglish.
I watched Dalglish beat everyone in game play during SDL this season, good soccer lots of passes and good play.
Wow, that is really cool that you are able to watch all of their games yet you don't have a daughter on the Daglish team. I'm voting for you to get 04Girls fan of the year!
The coach seems to be a class act and the parents dont seem over the top during games. Sure they get a little rowdy but so do the other teams.
I think everyone should support their own and quit bashing liverpool
I couldn't agree more. Hey everyone, quit being mean to Liverpool!
Funny I dont see anything (bashing, making fun saying the Rowdies arent good etc from liverpool after there "rec" as some of you call it D2 team beat the Rowdies Red team who play D1 SDL at Pot O Gold. )
Oh, you must be referencing the fact that the Liverpool Beardsly team beat the Rowdies in the other division of the Pot O Gold 3v3 tournament. Wow, your grasp of Liverpool is amazing! If I didn't know any better, I would swear that you had a kid that played for them. Can I buy you a beer sometime?
I know its 3v3 but its still players against players!
Yes, your right, it's still players against players! You read my mind! It's almost exactly like 7v7 soccer. All of those so called soccer experts don't know what they are talking about.
Anyway good job Solar Kennington, good Job Rowdies, good job Tx Spirit and the rest! Oh and Dalglish......keep winning! and stay together this team will be even better once the chemistry gets better....
Yes, I agree. Keep winning Daglish. If they can stay together, they can do double duty. Let's get rid of the U.S. Womens National team and replace them with Daglish.

And thank you Ballzag for one of the most well written, thought out posts I have seen in a long time. It's great to see sincere human beings showing such a great concern for teams other than their own. You sir, are an inspiration to us all.

Ballzag wrote:

SuperSoccer wrote:

Ballzag wrote:I have surfed around alot on these forums and have never joined or posted. I joined so I could post about this topic
Oh welcome Ballzag! You have great timing. Moosh just hung up his keyboard less than 30 minutes ago, so we need some new members.
Its obvious parents in the 04s are absolutely supportive of there kids soccer. I dont have a dd that plays for Dalglish or Solar or The Rowdies etc.
Tell me more Ballzag. I like where your story is going.
from the outside looking in its real apparent that folks are always critical of Dalglish. The rankings come out and then its a bashing Dalglish page.
Gee whiz, your right. Poor Daglish.
I watched Dalglish beat everyone in game play during SDL this season, good soccer lots of passes and good play.
Wow, that is really cool that you are able to watch all of their games yet you don't have a daughter on the Daglish team. I'm voting for you to get 04Girls fan of the year!
The coach seems to be a class act and the parents dont seem over the top during games. Sure they get a little rowdy but so do the other teams.
I think everyone should support their own and quit bashing liverpool
I couldn't agree more. Hey everyone, quit being mean to Liverpool!
Funny I dont see anything (bashing, making fun saying the Rowdies arent good etc from liverpool after there "rec" as some of you call it D2 team beat the Rowdies Red team who play D1 SDL at Pot O Gold. )
Oh, you must be referencing the fact that the Liverpool Beardsly team beat the Rowdies in the other division of the Pot O Gold 3v3 tournament. Wow, your grasp of Liverpool is amazing! If I didn't know any better, I would swear that you had a kid that played for them. Can I buy you a beer sometime?
I know its 3v3 but its still players against players!
Yes, your right, it's still players against players! You read my mind! It's almost exactly like 7v7 soccer. All of those so called soccer experts don't know what they are talking about.
Anyway good job Solar Kennington, good Job Rowdies, good job Tx Spirit and the rest! Oh and Dalglish......keep winning! and stay together this team will be even better once the chemistry gets better....
Yes, I agree. Keep winning Daglish. If they can stay together, they can do double duty. Let's get rid of the U.S. Womens National team and replace them with Daglish.

And thank you Ballzag for one of the most well written, thought out posts I have seen in a long time. It's great to see sincere human beings showing such a great concern for teams other than their own. You sir, are an inspiration to us all.

You are absolutely out of control....
Ballzag, that hurts,...that hurts real bad. I thought we were friends?
I was wrong in stating ive "seen" all of the games.
It's OK. No one is perfect. It would be very easy to get that confused. Last year, I thought I had been to every Texas Rangers game only to realize that I hadn't seen any of them. Sh** happens.
Ive seen scores on here and bits of games when my dd plays around the same time or field as them.
That makes perfect sense to me. Maybe your coach and the Daglish coach are good buddies and schedule their SDL games at the same times and same fields so that they can look over at each other from time to time. You gotta respect that.
I dont have a daughter on Dalglish.
I know you don't old buddy. But you'll get there someday. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Sorry to disapoint you, maybe you can go find some other person to bash.
Sir, that offends me. You have become like a brother to me. I was going to name my next child "Ballzag".
I guess the OTHER division where my DD does play with alot of other DD makes them second class? Guess they all should hang up there cleats at 7!
Wow, once again sir, you amaze me. You are effin brilliant. Even though I never said that (or even implied it), I was secretly thinking that exact thought. All day today, I kept thinking to myself, "if you don't play for Liverpool Daglish, you must be second class and you should probably hang up your cleats at the age of seven. Your mind reading is "spot on". Right now I am giving you a standing ovation with a slow clap.
You need to grow up and quit makeing fun of people you dont know! Your post is ridiculous and so are you. Gee now I know why I dont post on this forum...because of people like you whos only intent for this forum is to bash other folks opinions and comments!
You think I'm bad? Remind to tell you sometime about this guy named Moosh that used to post on here. He was legendary! Too bad he decided to quit posting on this forum. Well, I gotta run Ballzag. Stay hard.