'02 FBR Rankings - Week 6

RoidRage wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

soccerdad19 wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

I have seen games in SDL where the keeper and two top 02 defensive players from Kat's team stay on the field the entire game(maybe, get a few minutes break). In 9v9 that's 33% of the team. It seems that some are underestimating how big of a difference that can make in a game. Like when 02 rowdies use some 01's to help them out when they play up.

I'm sure Derek knows what he is doing since he was successful in the past with the 00's.

Well..... Then you know as much as I do. You are more than welcome to leave us off any rankings. Our team is more about development rather than rankings. I am personally proud of what our team is doing in D1 and 11v11 even with the assistance of 1-2 '02s on occasion.

JJ - come one now. This sounds like a different tune. You are on these forums a lot, much of the time on the 02 threads, talking up Kat and this SRSA 03 team and how good they are, as an 03 team competing with 02 D1 teams. It is a good team, and they did dominate the 02 D2 teams last season, thus playing up this season. Really should be no complaints about using the 02 players, in an 02 division, seems fine to me. Some fourm browesers might see it as a little mis leading, considering this fact is down played or never mentioned until now when called out on it, all the while talking about how great this SRSA 03 team is and has competed in the 02 D1 division this season. As for the rankings, between JJ and Turftow, you both seem really happy to be mentioned in the 02 rankings up to this point, as you have mentioned before.

Look at all the old threads. We NEVER denied utilizing '02s on this team. NEVER. We appreciate the fact that we are mentioned in some of the polls. I do not believe you heard any complaints about SRSA being left off of bwgophers poll. If you want to rank us, feel free to rank us as an '02 team. If you want to leave us off your rankings, then feel free to do so. SRSA has proven where they stand in the '02 & '03 soccer world on the field. I think that speaks louder than txsoccer.net pollsters.

The 02 soccer teams could care less if they use guests! Most other teams do it....Stavou, Dynamo, DT Vigil uses Glotz players, DT South uses stud forward from Waco Blast periodically....only teams that I never see use guests in a league game are DT Glotz, Webb 02, FC Dallas! Now the big question for Jj and TT is why are they using the guests? Is to to help them win? If so....how is that helping development? I understand using a guest if they are trying out your team, but these 02's are obviously not trying out for a 03 team! So there is only one obvious answer...its to help them be competitive! So yes when they do beat an 02 team while using 02 players is does take a little shine off of the victory compared to a victory using only 03 players! But, hey if they need the 02' s to competitive that is what the top
02 teams want.....a competitive game.

RoidRage wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

soccerdad19 wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

I have seen games in SDL where the keeper and two top 02 defensive players from Kat's team stay on the field the entire game(maybe, get a few minutes break). In 9v9 that's 33% of the team. It seems that some are underestimating how big of a difference that can make in a game. Like when 02 rowdies use some 01's to help them out when they play up.

I'm sure Derek knows what he is doing since he was successful in the past with the 00's.

Well..... Then you know as much as I do. You are more than welcome to leave us off any rankings. Our team is more about development rather than rankings. I am personally proud of what our team is doing in D1 and 11v11 even with the assistance of 1-2 '02s on occasion.

JJ - come one now. This sounds like a different tune. You are on these forums a lot, much of the time on the 02 threads, talking up Kat and this SRSA 03 team and how good they are, as an 03 team competing with 02 D1 teams. It is a good team, and they did dominate the 02 D2 teams last season, thus playing up this season. Really should be no complaints about using the 02 players, in an 02 division, seems fine to me. Some fourm browesers might see it as a little mis leading, considering this fact is down played or never mentioned until now when called out on it, all the while talking about how great this SRSA 03 team is and has competed in the 02 D1 division this season. As for the rankings, between JJ and Turftow, you both seem really happy to be mentioned in the 02 rankings up to this point, as you have mentioned before.

Look at all the old threads. We NEVER denied utilizing '02s on this team. NEVER. We appreciate the fact that we are mentioned in some of the polls. I do not believe you heard any complaints about SRSA being left off of bwgophers poll. If you want to rank us, feel free to rank us as an '02 team. If you want to leave us off your rankings, then feel free to do so. SRSA has proven where they stand in the '02 & '03 soccer world on the field. I think that speaks louder than txsoccer.net pollsters.

The 02 soccer teams could care less if they use guests! Most other teams do it....Stavou, Dynamo, DT Vigil uses Glotz players, DT South uses stud forward from Waco Blast periodically....only teams that I never see use guests in a league game are DT Glotz, Webb 02, FC Dallas! Now the big question for Jj and TT is why are they using the guests? Is to to help them win? If so....how is that helping development? I understand using a guest if they are trying out your team, but these 02's are obviously not trying out for a 03 team! So there is only one obvious answer...its to help them be competitive! So yes when they do beat an 02 team while using 02 players is does take a little shine off of the victory compared to a victory using only 03 players! But, hey if they need the 02' s to be competitive that is what the top
02 teams want.....a competitive game.

jj4mel wrote:

RoidRage wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

soccerdad19 wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

I have seen games in SDL where the keeper and two top 02 defensive players from Kat's team stay on the field the entire game(maybe, get a few minutes break). In 9v9 that's 33% of the team. It seems that some are underestimating how big of a difference that can make in a game. Like when 02 rowdies use some 01's to help them out when they play up.

I'm sure Derek knows what he is doing since he was successful in the past with the 00's.

Well..... Then you know as much as I do. You are more than welcome to leave us off any rankings. Our team is more about development rather than rankings. I am personally proud of what our team is doing in D1 and 11v11 even with the assistance of 1-2 '02s on occasion.

JJ - come one now. This sounds like a different tune. You are on these forums a lot, much of the time on the 02 threads, talking up Kat and this SRSA 03 team and how good they are, as an 03 team competing with 02 D1 teams. It is a good team, and they did dominate the 02 D2 teams last season, thus playing up this season. Really should be no complaints about using the 02 players, in an 02 division, seems fine to me. Some fourm browesers might see it as a little mis leading, considering this fact is down played or never mentioned until now when called out on it, all the while talking about how great this SRSA 03 team is and has competed in the 02 D1 division this season. As for the rankings, between JJ and Turftow, you both seem really happy to be mentioned in the 02 rankings up to this point, as you have mentioned before.

Look at all the old threads. We NEVER denied utilizing '02s on this team. NEVER. We appreciate the fact that we are mentioned in some of the polls. I do not believe you heard any complaints about SRSA being left off of bwgophers poll. If you want to rank us, feel free to rank us as an '02 team. If you want to leave us off your rankings, then feel free to do so. SRSA has proven where they stand in the '02 & '03 soccer world on the field. I think that speaks louder than txsoccer.net pollsters.

The 02 soccer teams could care less if they use guests! Most other teams do it....Stavou, Dynamo, DT Vigil uses Glotz players, DT South uses stud forward from Waco Blast periodically....only teams that I never see use guests in a league game are DT Glotz, Webb 02, FC Dallas! Now the big question for Jj and TT is why are they using the guests? Is to to help them win? If so....how is that helping development? I understand using a guest if they are trying out your team, but these 02's are obviously not trying out for a 03 team! So there is only one obvious answer...its to help them be competitive! So yes when they do beat an 02 team while using 02 players is does take a little shine off of the victory compared to a victory using only 03 players! But, hey if they need the 02' s to be competitive that is what the top
02 teams want.....a competitive game.

Watch the Solar Red '00 team. You think they used older girls on their team for the wins or for development when they were in academy coached by Derek? I do believe they are now one of the top '00 teams, if not the top team?

jj4mel wrote:

RoidRage wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

soccerdad19 wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

I have seen games in SDL where the keeper and two top 02 defensive players from Kat's team stay on the field the entire game(maybe, get a few minutes break). In 9v9 that's 33% of the team. It seems that some are underestimating how big of a difference that can make in a game. Like when 02 rowdies use some 01's to help them out when they play up.

I'm sure Derek knows what he is doing since he was successful in the past with the 00's.

Well..... Then you know as much as I do. You are more than welcome to leave us off any rankings. Our team is more about development rather than rankings. I am personally proud of what our team is doing in D1 and 11v11 even with the assistance of 1-2 '02s on occasion.

JJ - come one now. This sounds like a different tune. You are on these forums a lot, much of the time on the 02 threads, talking up Kat and this SRSA 03 team and how good they are, as an 03 team competing with 02 D1 teams. It is a good team, and they did dominate the 02 D2 teams last season, thus playing up this season. Really should be no complaints about using the 02 players, in an 02 division, seems fine to me. Some fourm browesers might see it as a little mis leading, considering this fact is down played or never mentioned until now when called out on it, all the while talking about how great this SRSA 03 team is and has competed in the 02 D1 division this season. As for the rankings, between JJ and Turftow, you both seem really happy to be mentioned in the 02 rankings up to this point, as you have mentioned before.

Look at all the old threads. We NEVER denied utilizing '02s on this team. NEVER. We appreciate the fact that we are mentioned in some of the polls. I do not believe you heard any complaints about SRSA being left off of bwgophers poll. If you want to rank us, feel free to rank us as an '02 team. If you want to leave us off your rankings, then feel free to do so. SRSA has proven where they stand in the '02 & '03 soccer world on the field. I think that speaks louder than txsoccer.net pollsters.

The 02 soccer teams could care less if they use guests! Most other teams do it....Stavou, Dynamo, DT Vigil uses Glotz players, DT South uses stud forward from Waco Blast periodically....only teams that I never see use guests in a league game are DT Glotz, Webb 02, FC Dallas! Now the big question for Jj and TT is why are they using the guests? Is to to help them win? If so....how is that helping development? I understand using a guest if they are trying out your team, but these 02's are obviously not trying out for a 03 team! So there is only one obvious answer...its to help them be competitive! So yes when they do beat an 02 team while using 02 players is does take a little shine off of the victory compared to a victory using only 03 players! But, hey if they need the 02' s to be competitive that is what the top
02 teams want.....a competitive game.

Watch the Solar Red '00 team. You think they used older girls on their team for the wins or for development when they were in academy coached by Derek? I do believe they are now one of the top '00 teams, if not the top team?

soccerskills wrote:......and if you're looking at a major reason you dont get scored on, it's not 03's....just sayin'

UpperNiner wrote:You say that Derek and Kat agree that it is better for the development of your '03 girls to pull in the help of the '02 keeper and '02 defenders against the D1 '02 teams?

Wouldn't it be better for the '03's development to actually play the tougher opponents themselves?

UpperNiner wrote:You say that Derek and Kat agree that it is better for the development of your '03 girls to pull in the help of the '02 keeper and '02 defenders against the D1 '02 teams?

Wouldn't it be better for the '03's development to actually play the tougher opponents themselves?

soccermom4* wrote:JJ - I have actually been in attendance of more than half of the 03s games this season...oh wait, or was it 02s...I'm getting them mixed up now.

soccermom4* wrote:JJ - I have actually been in attendance of more than half of the 03s games this season...oh wait, or was it 02s...I'm getting them mixed up now.

soccermom4* wrote:Not that it really matters, but many of my DDs games have fallen before or after SRSAs at the very same complexes. Additionally, my DD has several friends on SRSAs team. With that being said, yes, I am aware of who the "top performers" (as you put it) are.

turftoe9 wrote:

soccermom4* wrote:Not that it really matters, but many of my DDs games have fallen before or after SRSAs at the very same complexes. Additionally, my DD has several friends on SRSAs team. With that being said, yes, I am aware of who the "top performers" (as you put it) are.

So then you know it's the 03's and not the 02's who make the difference in the games.

soccermom4* wrote:

Funny.

I don't care who does and/or doesn't play for your team. I am simply agreeing with previous posts that you can't minimize the fact that you use 02s and it's effectiveness for your team.

jj4mel wrote:

turftoe9 wrote:

soccermom4* wrote:Not that it really matters, but many of my DDs games have fallen before or after SRSAs at the very same complexes. Additionally, my DD has several friends on SRSAs team. With that being said, yes, I am aware of who the "top performers" (as you put it) are.

So then you know it's the 03's and not the 02's who make the difference in the games.

Additionally it is obvious to you soccermom who the top defenders are.

soccerdad19 wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

turftoe9 wrote:

soccermom4* wrote:Not that it really matters, but many of my DDs games have fallen before or after SRSAs at the very same complexes. Additionally, my DD has several friends on SRSAs team. With that being said, yes, I am aware of who the "top performers" (as you put it) are.

So then you know it's the 03's and not the 02's who make the difference in the games.

Additionally it is obvious to you soccermom who the top defenders are.

Soooo...you and TT both have the same response. So which is it, we "readily admit using 02 players", no secret, its all about development. Or, we don't really need the 02 players, as they are not a major difference maker in our games? Even though, it sounds as though, 3 of 9 players, goalie and 2 defenders are playing much/most of the time? So the question remains, why use them? I realize you are not the coach, but you are the one arguing the points, on both sides of the argument it seems. As RoidRage said, most of these 02 parents could care less about the SRSA 03 team using 02 players, but it sure is fun watching you continue to argue one side and then the other.

jj4mel wrote:

soccermom4* wrote:

Funny.

I don't care who does and/or doesn't play for your team. I am simply agreeing with previous posts that you can't minimize the fact that you use 02s and it's effectiveness for your team.

Obviously you do care since you just doubled your posts on this topic alone. It also surprises me that you would come on here and blast SRSA for using '02s, then say you have "friends" on the team. Hope I am not your friend too!

My apologies to the rest of the '02 pollsters. Please continue on with your rankings discussions. Please do not hesitate to leave '03 SRSA out of your discussions. It appears it would be for the better.

soccermom4* wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

soccermom4* wrote:

Funny.

I don't care who does and/or doesn't play for your team. I am simply agreeing with previous posts that you can't minimize the fact that you use 02s and it's effectiveness for your team.

Obviously you do care since you just doubled your posts on this topic alone. It also surprises me that you would come on here and blast SRSA for using '02s, then say you have "friends" on the team. Hope I am not your friend too!

My apologies to the rest of the '02 pollsters. Please continue on with your rankings discussions. Please do not hesitate to leave '03 SRSA out of your discussions. It appears it would be for the better.

Let me begin by apologizing if it appeared that I was "blasting SRSA"...that was definitely not my intent. And yes, my daughter does have friends on the team. And, once again, I have simply agreed with previous posts.