Prime Cup Results 11v11

Capt. Caveman wrote:

SdadX2 wrote:

wxyz wrote:

Capt. Caveman wrote:hmmm...They played that game on one side of the field the majority of the game, stands to reason the defense will be closer to the goal, Webb had Rowdies on the ropes from the very beginning.

Who is right? Did Webb have Rowdies on the ropes both half or did the team with the wind have the other team on the ropes? Damn, I should have cancelled everything this weekend to watch those matches... It's like listening to six blind men describing an elephant!

IMO, the team that had the wind had the ball on the other teams side the most. I don't recall Rowdies being on the Webb side much at all in the 1st half. 2nd half, Rowdies had the wind and were on Webb side a lot, but didn't appear to be inside the 18 like Webb did with as many goal scoring chance and pressure. I could be wrong though.

Yep you should've been there, everyone has different views and perspectives on these games, what is glaringly clear is the top 3 remain unquestionably FCDP, Rowdies & SRSA.

Good point. In my best Robot Greggo voice.

Does anyone have an opinion on what happened to the other '02 "contenders"(DT-Glotz & Fever)? They didn't seem to do very well.

SdadX2 wrote:

wxyz wrote:

Capt. Caveman wrote:hmmm...They played that game on one side of the field the majority of the game, stands to reason the defense will be closer to the goal, Webb had Rowdies on the ropes from the very beginning.

Who is right? Did Webb have Rowdies on the ropes both half or did the team with the wind have the other team on the ropes? Damn, I should have cancelled everything this weekend to watch those matches... It's like listening to six blind men describing an elephant!

IMO, the team that had the wind had the ball on the other teams side the most. I don't recall Rowdies being on the Webb side much at all in the 1st half. 2nd half, Rowdies had the wind and were on Webb side a lot, but didn't appear to be inside the 18 like Webb did with as many goal scoring chance and pressure. I could be wrong though.

Fact is SRSA came ready to play Rowdies did not. They thought they'd breeze past SRSA and they did not. First half was SRSA's game, second half Rowdies played better but missed scoring opportunities. SRSA still played good in second half but did not dominate like im first half.. I did see atleast one other hand ball in box that was not called. The ref allowed extra time due to injuries and balls going over the fence. Not sure if extra time is allowed or not but as we all know it is the refs discretion. Both teams have talent that's for sure and one is not head and shoulders above the other. Rowdies stayed composed and made PK's under pressure SRSA did not (with two going right of the goalface and one saved by keeper,SRSA keeper saved one the rest were nicely placed), that doesn't ness. determine the better team, but in a tourn they have to come up with a winner and a loser of each game. Hats off the SRSA and Rowdies Rowdies girl and parents know how very lucky they were tp advance from that game!

Score and commentary for Rowdies FCD game?????????????????????

BJones wrote:Score and commentary for Rowdies FCD game?????????????????????

FCD 2 Rowdies 1


Both teams played outstanding. As in pool play against the Rowdies, FCD had the game in hand. Rowdies gave FCD a better game in the championship. DM panicked with his line up.

A little trouble in FCD land. Recent addition defender's mom stormed off the field and heard her shout were done.

Atomic Flea wrote:

BJones wrote:Score and commentary for Rowdies FCD game?????????????????????

FCD 2 Rowdies 1


Both teams played outstanding. As in pool play against the Rowdies, FCD had the game in hand. Rowdies gave FCD a better game in the championship. DM panicked with his line up.

A little trouble in FCD land. Recent addition defender's mom stormed off the field and heard her shout were done.

More on what "DM panicked"? Also, is the "recent addition" you are referring to the one from Stav?

Well DUH........... Matt Grubbs recruited that defender so he could get the stud leftie and right forward with bow not that defender. Just made the mom do the leg work for him. Plan worked , now that she did the work, he has no use for them. Cya.

BJones wrote:Well DUH........... Matt Grubbs recruited that defender so he could get the stud leftie and right forward with bow not that defender. Just made the mom do the leg work for him. Plan worked , now that she did the work, he has no use for them. Cya.

Not if they came as a group and would leave as a group... Anyone know what happened? I have seen many parents over the years state that they were "done" (usually for lack of playing time) but ended up staying, especially with top teams like Grubb.

jae wrote:

Atomic Flea wrote:

BJones wrote:Score and commentary for Rowdies FCD game?????????????????????

FCD 2 Rowdies 1


Both teams played outstanding. As in pool play against the Rowdies, FCD had the game in hand. Rowdies gave FCD a better game in the championship. DM panicked with his line up.

A little trouble in FCD land. Recent addition defender's mom stormed off the field and heard her shout were done.

More on what "DM panicked"? Also, is the "recent addition" you are referring to the one from Stav?

IMO, It had to do with Ian Farley doing tons of coaching in the SRSA vs Rowdies game, along with SRSA taking the Rowdies to the woodshed. Now losing 2 times in championship games!! It is not DM DNA to lose LOL. The trend continues, DM cant beat Grubbies.. Look for DM to sail into the sunset and Ian to come along and take over the team.

Rowdies are all fine with our coach and team, and are a tight group of parents and kids. Losing a game is not what you wish for but.......... big deal, these kids have a long road ahead and will lose many games. No one is looking to jump ship or changes coaches because of a few loses, and loses were not blow outs they were close. Some players did not play as much in crucial games and that will happen as he tries to put his best team -for that game , I'm sure the same thing happens at FCD and SRSA. I tell my dd to improve her game if she wants to play during the tough games.. SRSA did dominate Rowdies in first half- but who won the game??????? (if you agree with ref or not-outcome was that Rowdies won)
Same could be said about Waco Blast beating SRSA in first game, the only diff is they got a chance to play them again and redeem themselves. Really all these teams will lose . Didn't FCD lose to SRSA in reg season? Didn't SRSA lose to Lady Blast and Stavrou(during season???? Big Deal. I can just speak for Rowdies, not panicking bc of a lose -taking it and learning for it and improving would be more like it.
Also FCD has cut many weaker players so the stronger ones can play together. Smart move IMO, but Rowdies have not done that yet, and probably need to to become stronger.

Capt. Caveman wrote:Does anyone have an opinion on what happened to the other '02 "contenders"(DT-Glotz & Fever)? They didn't seem to do very well.

I thought Glotz played very well in all their games except the Webb game! Webbs girls were beating us to every ball it seemed like....it was very different from the week before where we tied them only to lose in Shootout! Against Fever... Glotz had more chances to score and hit the crossbow on one and missed a open net on the other! We still haven't beaten any of the top 3 ever(tied FCD, tied Webb) and we've never beaten Fever(tied 2 times). We are worthy of being about 4-6 in rankings along with Fever and DT South until one of these teams shows dominance over the other 2. Glotz handled Waco Blast 6-3...neither Glotz or Fever lost to anyone that they were expected to beat! Glotz is getting closer....I don't think any team takes out team for granted!

happygilmore wrote:Rowdies are all fine with our coach and team, and are a tight group of parents and kids. Losing a game is not what you wish for but.......... big deal, these kids have a long road ahead and will lose many games. No one is looking to jump ship or changes coaches because of a few loses, and loses were not blow outs they were close. Some players did not play as much in crucial games and that will happen as he tries to put his best team -for that game , I'm sure the same thing happens at FCD and SRSA. I tell my dd to improve her game if she wants to play during the tough games.. SRSA did dominate Rowdies in first half- but who won the game??????? (if you agree with ref or not-outcome was that Rowdies won)
Same could be said about Waco Blast beating SRSA in first game, the only diff is they got a chance to play them again and redeem themselves. Really all these teams will lose . Didn't FCD lose to SRSA in reg season? Didn't SRSA lose to Lady Blast and Stavrou(during season???? Big Deal. I can just speak for Rowdies, not panicking bc of a lose -taking it and learning for it and improving would be more like it.
Also FCD has cut many weaker players so the stronger ones can play together. Smart move IMO, but Rowdies have not done that yet, and probably need to to become stronger.

Happy, you might want to do some more research on your team. Let me start off by saying that I agree with you about (Taking it and learning/improving from it). However, I can promise you that the parents are not fine with there coach DM and hence the change will come sooner. BLAH BLAH BLAH, you aint buying it right ?? but you as well as many of the parents know and talked about Ian coming on to take over the team asap. Let the fun times begin.

Happy, as you know, there is a pattern of IF taking over the team earlier than planned. One can never be sure what the underlying drivers are (since the parents are often mum on their reasons on this board) but there is definitely a pattern. I agree 100% that all teams lose (even Bates '01 will lose at some point). However, I do not think losing is the reason why the transfer happens earlier than planned.

In terms of "pruning" weaker players, does Rowdies '02 have enough new recruits or a long roster to be able to do that? Grubb was able to do that because he had an inflow of talent from Stav (which he may or may not be able to keep based on observations from the championship game over the weekend). Rowdies '00s roster was relatively short and '01s roster was relatively long. My understanding is that '02s roster is relatively short but have no idea on recruiting new and better players.

Atomic Flea wrote:

happygilmore wrote:Rowdies are all fine with our coach and team, and are a tight group of parents and kids. Losing a game is not what you wish for but.......... big deal, these kids have a long road ahead and will lose many games. No one is looking to jump ship or changes coaches because of a few loses, and loses were not blow outs they were close. Some players did not play as much in crucial games and that will happen as he tries to put his best team -for that game , I'm sure the same thing happens at FCD and SRSA. I tell my dd to improve her game if she wants to play during the tough games.. SRSA did dominate Rowdies in first half- but who won the game??????? (if you agree with ref or not-outcome was that Rowdies won)
Same could be said about Waco Blast beating SRSA in first game, the only diff is they got a chance to play them again and redeem themselves. Really all these teams will lose . Didn't FCD lose to SRSA in reg season? Didn't SRSA lose to Lady Blast and Stavrou(during season???? Big Deal. I can just speak for Rowdies, not panicking bc of a lose -taking it and learning for it and improving would be more like it.
Also FCD has cut many weaker players so the stronger ones can play together. Smart move IMO, but Rowdies have not done that yet, and probably need to to become stronger.

Happy, you might want to do some more research on your team. Let me start off by saying that I agree with you about (Taking it and learning/improving from it). However, I can promise you that the parents are not fine with there coach DM and hence the change will come sooner. BLAH BLAH BLAH, you aint buying it right ?? but you as well as many of the parents know and talked about Ian coming on to take over the team asap. Let the fun times begin.

SRSA, FCD, and Now the Rowdies have finally joined the ride. All 3 of these teams have beat each other, Some more than others. SRSA has beaten FCD the last 2 times and I think Rowdies and FCd have split. FCD keeps moving players in and out to find the right mix. If there was a different tournament, there would definitely be a different outcome. FCD and SRSA have very dominant and fast, skilled forwards. Rowdies has great defenders and speed. When these teams play each other, you are guaranteed a championship caliber matches.

I say this to show that all 3 of these teams have similar and different strengths and can beat each other at any given time. That is truly the beauty of it. Some may prefer one team to the other..That's all good. They all have great Forwards, Mids, and defenders. I enjoy the opinions because it shows how all 3 of these teams are dominant.

One more thing, Yes, Webb lost to stavrou, the game of SDL season, but they won every SDL game afterwards and That included FCD twice......I'm just sayin!

wxyz wrote:Happy, as you know, there is a pattern of IF taking over the team earlier than planned. One can never be sure what the underlying drivers are (since the parents are often mum on their reasons on this board) but there is definitely a pattern. I agree 100% that all teams lose (even Bates '01 will lose at some point). However, I do not think losing is the reason why the transfer happens earlier than planned.

In terms of "pruning" weaker players, does Rowdies '02 have enough new recruits or a long roster to be able to do that? Grubb was able to do that because he had an inflow of talent from Stav (which he may or may not be able to keep based on observations from the championship game over the weekend). Rowdies '00s roster was relatively short and '01s roster was relatively long. My understanding is that '02s roster is relatively short but have no idea on recruiting new and better players.

I also believe you were the same one who reported we had girls leaving to go to FCD a month or so ago-did that ever happen?? Not that I know of

mcik17 wrote:

Capt. Caveman wrote:Does anyone have an opinion on what happened to the other '02 "contenders"(DT-Glotz & Fever)? They didn't seem to do very well.

I thought Glotz played very well in all their games except the Webb game! Webbs girls were beating us to every ball it seemed like....it was very different from the week before where we tied them only to lose in Shootout! Against Fever... Glotz had more chances to score and hit the crossbow on one and missed a open net on the other! We still haven't beaten any of the top 3 ever(tied FCD, tied Webb) and we've never beaten Fever(tied 2 times). We are worthy of being about 4-6 in rankings along with Fever and DT South until one of these teams shows dominance over the other 2. Glotz handled Waco Blast 6-3...neither Glotz or Fever lost to anyone that they were expected to beat! Glotz is getting closer....I don't think any team takes out team for granted!

as a fever parent, i'd have to agree with the glotz parent on this. i think the consensus is (and has been) that fcd, rowdies, and webb are the top three and fever and glotz are in the next group. so as far as "what happened", well things generally worked out the way they should have. on paper it may look as thogh fever and glotz had a real fall, but really we had the top six teams together in one field.

pool b was a tough group and the margin between being in the semis and playing the in the last place game was so close. in the last game saturday fever was up on lady blast 1-0 half way though the second half; one more goal and fever goes to the semi finals. a tie sends lady blast to the semis, and a loss gets glotz there. so fever tied 1-1 and ends up playing for 7th/8th and glotz plays for 5th/6th.

it's safe to say parents and coaches on both fever and glotz have that woulda, shoulda, coulda feeling, but they are still both top teams even though to an outsider it looks as if they rounded out the bottom end.

happygilmore wrote:

wxyz wrote:Happy, as you know, there is a pattern of IF taking over the team earlier than planned. One can never be sure what the underlying drivers are (since the parents are often mum on their reasons on this board) but there is definitely a pattern. I agree 100% that all teams lose (even Bates '01 will lose at some point). However, I do not think losing is the reason why the transfer happens earlier than planned.

In terms of "pruning" weaker players, does Rowdies '02 have enough new recruits or a long roster to be able to do that? Grubb was able to do that because he had an inflow of talent from Stav (which he may or may not be able to keep based on observations from the championship game over the weekend). Rowdies '00s roster was relatively short and '01s roster was relatively long. My understanding is that '02s roster is relatively short but have no idea on recruiting new and better players.

I also believe you were the same one who reported we had girls leaving to go to FCD a month or so ago-did that ever happen?? Not that I know of

Nope wrong again, I was the one who said there were some Rowdies looking to make the change. Has it happen yet? I dont think so, but will it ? Time will only tell. These things take time Happy.. I tried to get more info from the parents but they did not want to discuss it. They were upset that it got out in the open.

Sure

bobmac15 wrote:

mcik17 wrote:

Capt. Caveman wrote:Does anyone have an opinion on what happened to the other '02 "contenders"(DT-Glotz & Fever)? They didn't seem to do very well.

I thought Glotz played very well in all their games except the Webb game! Webbs girls were beating us to every ball it seemed like....it was very different from the week before where we tied them only to lose in Shootout! Against Fever... Glotz had more chances to score and hit the crossbow on one and missed a open net on the other! We still haven't beaten any of the top 3 ever(tied FCD, tied Webb) and we've never beaten Fever(tied 2 times). We are worthy of being about 4-6 in rankings along with Fever and DT South until one of these teams shows dominance over the other 2. Glotz handled Waco Blast 6-3...neither Glotz or Fever lost to anyone that they were expected to beat! Glotz is getting closer....I don't think any team takes out team for granted!

as a fever parent, i'd have to agree with the glotz parent on this. i think the consensus is (and has been) that fcd, rowdies, and webb are the top three and fever and glotz are in the next group. so as far as "what happened", well things generally worked out the way they should have. on paper it may look as thogh fever and glotz had a real fall, but really we had the top six teams together in one field.

pool b was a tough group and the margin between being in the semis and playing the in the last place game was so close. in the last game saturday fever was up on lady blast 1-0 half way though the second half; one more goal and fever goes to the semi finals. a tie sends lady blast to the semis, and a loss gets glotz there. so fever tied 1-1 and ends up playing for 7th/8th and glotz plays for 5th/6th.

it's safe to say parents and coaches on both fever and glotz have that woulda, shoulda, coulda feeling, but they are still both top teams even though to an outsider it looks as if they rounded out the bottom end.

Good points, and as an outsider, other than Waco Blast the only competition was between them, HOWEVER, earlier in the year various parents & supporters of both DT-Glotz & Fever boasted of being ready to not only compete but beat SRSA & Rowdies..not so much FCDP (I suppose they know their limitations), with all the early hype as if they were deserving of a top 3 ranking I expected more of a stronger showing from those teams, but they seem to be in each others way, IMO DT-Glotz & Fever need to play a best 3 out of 5 one weekend and clearly determine whose #? & #? before going after the '02 Juggernauts.

I am curious to know if Waco Lady Blast had any additional "help"? They are a good team with great parents. However, my DD's '03 team played these girls. Tied once 1-1 and beat them 2-0 just back in April. DT South '03 beat them 4-3 and lost to them 2-1. All games on the 11v11 field. Did this team greatly improve? Bring in some "friends" to help out?

I think Glotz is one of the "juggernauts", just had a bad weekend. Same goes for SRSA.

I am excited to see a re-match for all the teams. Rowdies, FCD, SRSA and Glotz. Way to go, way to compete at the next level, and hope to see it again!!

happygilmore wrote:

wxyz wrote:Happy, as you know, there is a pattern of IF taking over the team earlier than planned. One can never be sure what the underlying drivers are (since the parents are often mum on their reasons on this board) but there is definitely a pattern. I agree 100% that all teams lose (even Bates '01 will lose at some point). However, I do not think losing is the reason why the transfer happens earlier than planned.

In terms of "pruning" weaker players, does Rowdies '02 have enough new recruits or a long roster to be able to do that? Grubb was able to do that because he had an inflow of talent from Stav (which he may or may not be able to keep based on observations from the championship game over the weekend). Rowdies '00s roster was relatively short and '01s roster was relatively long. My understanding is that '02s roster is relatively short but have no idea on recruiting new and better players.

I also believe you were the same one who reported we had girls leaving to go to FCD a month or so ago-did that ever happen?? Not that I know of

Nope. I did no such thing because I have absolutely no inside or outside info on any player movement. Why don't you go back and check before accusing randomly! I do take note on what others post. I stand by what I post and I still am wondering about YOUR POST on Rowdies needing to cut weaker players.

jj4mel wrote:I am curious to know if Waco Lady Blast had any additional "help"? They are a good team with great parents. However, my DD's '03 team played these girls. Tied once 1-1 and beat them 2-0 just back in April. DT South '03 beat them 4-3 and lost to them 2-1. All games on the 11v11 field. Did this team greatly improve? Bring in some "friends" to help out?

I think Glotz is one of the "juggernauts", just had a bad weekend. Same goes for SRSA. I am excited to see a re-match for all the teams. Rowdies, FCD, SRSA and Glotz. Way to go, way to compete at the next level, and hope to see it again!!

Depends on your definition of a bad weekend. SRSA couldn't finish scoring chances against Blast but dominated the game. I would say they performed well in the other games even without advancing, so not sure a bad weekend is accurate. Now, if your definition of bad is not making the finals and winning, well I guess they had a bad weekend.

jj4mel wrote:I am curious to know if Waco Lady Blast had any additional "help"? They are a good team with great parents. However, my DD's '03 team played these girls. Tied once 1-1 and beat them 2-0 just back in April. DT South '03 beat them 4-3 and lost to them 2-1. All games on the 11v11 field. Did this team greatly improve? Bring in some "friends" to help out?

I think Glotz is one of the "juggernauts", just had a bad weekend. Same goes for SRSA.

I am excited to see a re-match for all the teams. Rowdies, FCD, SRSA and Glotz. Way to go, way to compete at the next level, and hope to see it again!!

I am curious to find out why your 03 did not play up in the tournament against the 02 ? I am assuming Primetime would not allow it.

Waco Lady Blast had help from DT South

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happygilmore wrote:

wxyz wrote:Happy, as you know, there is a pattern of IF taking over the team earlier than planned. One can never be sure what the underlying drivers are (since the parents are often mum on their reasons on this board) but there is definitely a pattern. I agree 100% that all teams lose (even Bates '01 will lose at some point). However, I do not think losing is the reason why the transfer happens earlier than planned.

In terms of "pruning" weaker players, does Rowdies '02 have enough new recruits or a long roster to be able to do that? Grubb was able to do that because he had an inflow of talent from Stav (which he may or may not be able to keep based on observations from the championship game over the weekend). Rowdies '00s roster was relatively short and '01s roster was relatively long. My understanding is that '02s roster is relatively short but have no idea on recruiting new and better players.

I also believe you were the same one who reported we had girls leaving to go to FCD a month or so ago-did that ever happen?? Not that I know of

Oh yes sorry wxyz is the TFCGuzman 01 parent who began slamming our team when we beat them and in EAL because some 01 Texans helped out when we were missing girls. Sorry. Atomic Flea (fitting name btw) was the one who came on and in first post tried to stir up trouble of girls leaving Rowdies and going to Grubb when in fact the two girl who went to Grubb were two girls from Stav. one being the mgr, who is now so mad that she wants to leave herself. My bad . Two diff screennames on here to bash what they don't know about.