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Post by Guest 08/09/11, 12:11 pm

chump wrote:So the tryouts are today at ross stewart to make the aka rowdies/texans?
Can any other DT teams tryout like DT rangel, DT south, or even DT vigel??
Can any players from other teams tyrout also?? Does it only have to be only ex glotz players? wow thats not fair??? Evil or Very Mad

What time is that pool practice today? I would like to drop my DD's off. Laughing Laughing Laughing lol!

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Post by Guest 08/09/11, 12:12 pm

Would Love to be at practice tonight and see the parents fight over the benches can someone video and send it to me!???

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Post by Guest 08/09/11, 12:20 pm

All seriousness, Everyone knows Glotz parents/kids upset and he'll(bennett) probably lose
some here and there or even all at once. Does anyone know if all is good on Rowdie front?????????. Any looking to jump ship after first outtings with Higgy. Was the loss to SRSA too much . Everyone with older DD's like myself wondered how he would do with 9 year olds. Dealing with 92's is much different that 9 and 10 year old kids. If enough leave you could fill in with remaining Glotz kids.

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Post by patricia_grrty 08/09/11, 12:23 pm

Don't forget - Parents are NOT allowed to watch practices at Ross Stewart - apparently the DT club feels that it 'distracts' the players. So parents have to stand outside in the parking lot looking through the bars of the fence.

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Post by chump 08/09/11, 12:24 pm

Youtube it tonight!!! I wanna see all the fight's...lol
Should I see the first NFL game or wait for this youtube to come out??
lol! lol! lol!

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Post by chump 08/09/11, 12:31 pm

patricia_grrty wrote:Don't forget - Parents are NOT allowed to watch practices at Ross Stewart - apparently the DT club feels that it 'distracts' the players. So parents have to stand outside in the parking lot looking through the bars of the fence.

That's pretty messed up. Can't even watch ur DD practice. I wonder do they do that for the games there?

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Post by Mega Man02 08/09/11, 12:45 pm

parents can watch practice. They 'parents' have to be off the field by 6pm. paractice is from 445-600. feel free to come out. It will be a great day for soccer. lol
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Post by Staywide 08/09/11, 01:03 pm

Mega Man02 wrote:
Lefty wrote:
Lobo_Momma wrote:
Larrythesoccerguy wrote:I wonder how this will affect the Dallas Texans 03 and 04 teams in the future? The 04's have DT North, DT South, and the Rowdies, which are all top teams. I wonder if DT North and DT South will have to take a backseat to the Rowdies at some point.
Of course. This is not even a question. DT North 04 will be expected to pass their best players to Rowdies as the teams get closer to U11. Most DT coaches comply with their handlers in this respect.

lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!
The coaches of the other teams are not under the same pressure and just need to have a full team in place to keep their job.
SO it's their job to win! ReallY? So why don't you tell that to the 15 girls that gave it their all to win. Oh sorry I fogot your not the top team. B.S. You play to win the game. I doesn't matter if you're not the top team. That is were the Teaxas are wrong, and never will have 2 top teams in the same age division.

Hmmm, wrong! But, it sure is fun listening to the Texans haters show their... Check out the boys '00/u12 D1 Classic League Division. 4 out of the 10 teams are Dallas Texans...ANY of them have the opportunity to win the division. Same as the '99/u13s...3 out of the 10 D1 teams are Dallas Texans. If you don't think the Texans want to replicate this on the girls side...sorry, can't argue with stupidity.

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Post by Staywide 08/09/11, 01:12 pm

AirForceOne wrote:All seriousness, Everyone knows Glotz parents/kids upset and he'll(bennett) probably lose
some here and there or even all at once. Does anyone know if all is good on Rowdie front?????????. Any looking to jump ship after first outtings with Higgy. Was the loss to SRSA too much . Everyone with older DD's like myself wondered how he would do with 9 year olds. Dealing with 92's is much different that 9 and 10 year old kids. If enough leave you could fill in with remaining Glotz kids.

Hopefully every parent that attacked/accused JG of losing the game or not trying to win the game because of the Texans philosophy...stands behind their words/actions and finds a new club. My guess, they will all be standing out there tonight.

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Post by patricia_grrty 08/09/11, 01:15 pm

Mega Man02 wrote:parents can watch practice. They 'parents' have to be off the field by 6pm. paractice is from 445-600. feel free to come out. It will be a great day for soccer. lol

I thought it was all parents - regardless of which team that could not watch practice at RS - based on this thread:

http://www.txsoccer.net/t7940-closed-texan-practices#92509

Are the 02s exempt?

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Post by Mega Man02 08/09/11, 01:15 pm

Yes they will be their tonight. But what goes on behind close doors, only the parents know. Do you really think they will stay. Maybe a few but the rest will leave. JMO!
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Post by Mega Man02 08/09/11, 01:17 pm

patricia_grrty wrote:
Mega Man02 wrote:parents can watch practice. They 'parents' have to be off the field by 6pm. paractice is from 445-600. feel free to come out. It will be a great day for soccer. lol

I thought it was all parents - regardless of which team that could not watch practice at RS - based on this thread:

http://www.txsoccer.net/t7940-closed-texan-practices#92509

Are the 02s exempt?
As long as your DD is not select you may watch. Which is why practice is at 445 and ends at 6. Select groups get the fields from 6 to when ever.
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Post by Mega Man02 08/09/11, 01:19 pm

Also the parents are not mad at Glotz. Mad at the system. Ok lunch is over.
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Post by Staywide 08/09/11, 01:31 pm

[quote="goalgetter"]
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happygilmore wrote:
goalgetter wrote:
mcik17 wrote:Let me make this whole situation real for everyone. I have never hid who I am or what team I'm affliated and I wasn't even really sure I wanted to post anything about this situation and just add to the drama, but let me tell you I learned tonight that this is real to a little 10 year old girl and not just some forum drama!

First off, I'm not sure if I'm mad at Glotz, or the Texans, or the parent drama including myself....maybe its all the above! I think what Glotz did this weekend was wrong and obvious...I'm not sure why he would do it but it happened and I told him I wasn't happy. Everyone that wasnt at the game doesn't know. Don't act like its just 9 yr old soccer and our kids don't care because they do care. They knew it was a big game, they talked about it and I'm sure heard the parents talk about it. You should of seen the girls when they scored the go ahead goal...they were going crazy...it wasn't just the normal reaction...they knew what they were accomplishing. And Glotzbach didn't seem to want to give them every chance at that victory. I'm still not sure why?

Now to the part that really made it hit home. I told my dd tonight that Coach Glotzbach was quiting and guess what her response was? Is it because we didn't beat the Rowdies? Now do you think she knew it was a big game? Then she started crying and tried to hide the fact she was crying. If anyone knows my dd she doesn't cry...she is the "Stone Cold Goalie" no emotion! Then she blamed herself and said if I just hadn't let that last goal in! At this point I'm getting upset and pissed at the same time. Why is my dd blaming herself for a coach leaving? She obviously loves this coach and he was always great with them. This is testament to how good of a coach he was...the girls love him!! I tried to tell her it was just a coaching change and it always happens. She cried herself to sleep tonight. She doesn't want to lose her coach or her friends! But, I am having a hard time justifying leaving her with the Texans if this is how its run! But, I don't want to add to my dd's emotions by taking her away from her friends also! I'm at a crossroads with no good outcome for my dd.

The new plan is for the both Higgabothams(Rowdies) and Bennett(ex Glotz) to practice together as one unit with 2 coaches. I assume this fall season the teams will stay seperate for game purposes. Then I assume they will make a super team and a "b" team. I also assume when this happens there will be upset parents that will take their dd's elsewhere and then the 2nd team will most likely implode again and this whole drama scene will start all over again. So basically if we stay we will be kicking the can down the road and putting off the inevitable! Of course if your dd makes the top team everything will be fine until playing time issues arise. I'm just not sure if I want to go thru the drama again in a couple of months right before signing contract time and have to scramble to find a team at the last moment because my dd didn't make the "A" team and most girls that made the "b" teams decided to go find greener pastures. This is the senario I'm afraid of happening!

What do I do? I have a good team that wants my dd. But, my dd and our family also have very good friends that we will miss dearly! This whole situation sucks!


Hell yeah it sucks! The Texans don't care about this team. All they want are numbers to chose from to add to their all mighty Rowdies/Texans team. They want to play the parents like fools keep em coming out and make em feel that the team is just as important. When all they really want is to develop 3 to 5 girls to add to Higgs team. That is really not a bad plan, but when the parents are being told one thing and then the club does the total opposite it let's you know that the only thing being looked out for is the Club and not the DD's that put in all the hard work. I'm not bitter about the Higg team I will be the first to say that my DD is not on that level YET!! Just tired of everybody worrying about what the Higg team is doing?? Who cares what they are doing.....the only concern here should be Glotz team. This team is a really good team and has closed the gap significantly. No need to mix up the teams. This team is a team that don't depend on just 2 or 3 studs, every DD on the team brings something special to the team from top to bottom. And the chemistry that they have built up is impressive. I would hate to see all this hard work go to waste over some clubs greed....this team has the potential to be the top team in 02's. Just don't get why some people are so ready to jump ship... not saying you are Mcik I know you are very committed to your dd and the team. If the parents are really sincere about keeping this team in tact then in my little opinion I think the best thing going foward would be to take the team as a whole to another club. This would take the team out from under the shadows of the Higg team and really allow the team to compete to their max potential. Their is something to be said about buiding it, develop it, and earning it. This team is right there on the doorstep pounding in the door. I don't know I'm just saying........K Medina and camp looking pretty good at Sting!!!!
NEWSFLASH parents----YOU are the CUSTOMERS , they (Ryan, Jason, Tim, Hassien) work for you, you pay them!!!!! If you are not happy keep your solid team together and find a club that will treat you right. No one want to see a good TExans team leave -but if you all are this fed up-ban together and leave or threathen to until you get what you want. [/quote]
All I have to say is Your Right.
agreed!!

mcik17 -
Please say that you don't believe this BS that Jason didn't coach to win that game!!! The only thing that sucks about this game is the parents probably didn't truly congratulate their daughters with complete excitement about playing such a great game as a TEAM...they were pissed about some fabricated idea. I have a perfect example of why Jason did NOT coach to lose..but instead he wanted to allow ALL the girls to feel somewhat part of the BIG game. And, instead of saying 'Thank You' to Jason for doing a great job developing the girls and helping them enjoy the game...it was the mob looking for blood. I congratulate Jason for telling all the parents that attacked him "goodbye!" Truly unfortunate for the girls that the parents had to be immature ones.

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Post by Staywide 08/09/11, 01:34 pm

Mega Man02 wrote:Yes they will be their tonight. But what goes on behind close doors, only the parents know. Do you really think they will stay. Maybe a few but the rest will leave. JMO!

You can always PM 1v1 Phenom...he was trolling for players this weekend to fill out his DDs FCD Grubb team. ...sorry 1v1 had to give them a lead.

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Post by Staywide 08/09/11, 01:49 pm

Mega Man02 wrote:Also the parents are not mad at Glotz. Mad at the system. Ok lunch is over.

The only 'system' is the fact the Texans want as many top teams as they can produce! Why would anyone think they wouldn't want this? Do you honestly think they want to lose 30...40..50..girls coming to (or leaving) their club to protect a roster of 16 girls on the 'top' team? Look at my previous post regarding the boys side of the club...they have successfully achieved the ability to have multiple 'top' teams in D1 and each of these teams have the opportunity to win EVERY game! Example...Hassan coached the '97 boys, and at u13 this team was beat twice by another Texans team and they finished behind the other Texans team in Classic League that year. Don't be mad at the system...be mad at yourself for thinking differently.

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Post by nopatience 08/09/11, 02:20 pm

Wow!! All I can write is wow. I have no dog in this fight, but someone told me to read this little thread (i suspect staywide) for some entertainment. I will agree with staywide's sentiments and argue that all the conspiracy theorists have a self inflated ego and are attempting to live their unfulfilled dreams through their dd. I cannot write it anymore eloquently than staywide. The conspiracy theorists need to get a life.

In a few years that dd will be a teenager, will be headed to highschool and will have no time left for the balding, overweight and overbearing idiot that is her dad. Appreciate that the girls did a great job, that they played well and that they are getting better. Stop blaming someone else for your own inadequacies.

It is only going to get worse as next summer approaches. The politics are going to escalate exponentially. Don't bring it in front of your dd. They do not deserve it. Have fun, let them have fun, and enjoy your time with your little girl while she still wants to be with you numbnuts...

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Post by jen_nah 08/09/11, 02:29 pm

patricia_grrty wrote:
Mega Man02 wrote:parents can watch practice. They 'parents' have to be off the field by 6pm. paractice is from 445-600. feel free to come out. It will be a great day for soccer. lol

I thought it was all parents - regardless of which team that could not watch practice at RS - based on this thread:

http://www.txsoccer.net/t7940-closed-texan-practices#92509

Are the 02s exempt?

I have an '02 & '04. While my '02 isn't on a DT that practice at RS but my '04 team does and I have seen many parents at all ages watching practice from the side line even the select age every time I am there.


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Post by Guest 08/09/11, 04:11 pm

conspiracytheorist wrote:
hardtruthsoldier123 wrote:

I hope they can get enough money to have Mel Gibson star in this Glotz Conspiracy Theory Movie....I am just trying to find a good movie Title for the movie...The .Screen play has already been written with all these posts.

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I'm partial to "The Grassy Goal"...


I am thinking "JFG: What Really happened at the Grassy Goal" I will try and get Oliver Stone to produce it....


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Post by Guest 08/09/11, 07:40 pm

A reliable source says::::
Few Glotz girls/parents are thinking they can be moved up, they r wrong for now, maybe after season and maybe one.
Few Rowdies are thinking they may be cut. Two might be right.

Two Rowdies , other than the ones to be cut , thinking of leaving before being taken over by Glotz wacky parents (not my words ), only one will really go.
Is this 100% true? I don't know, but I been told..........................
Stay tuned for more.

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Post by Guest 08/09/11, 08:27 pm

AirForceOne wrote:A reliable source says::::
Few Glotz girls/parents are thinking they can be moved up, they r wrong for now, maybe after season and maybe one.
Few Rowdies are thinking they may be cut. Two might be right.

Two Rowdies , other than the ones to be cut , thinking of leaving before being taken over by Glotz wacky parents (not my words ), only one will really go.
Is this 100% true? I don't know, but I been told..........................
Stay tuned for more.

One of the saddest parts of this is that most of us will stay tuned for more.

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Post by mcik17 08/09/11, 10:14 pm

[quote="Staywide"]
goalgetter wrote:
Mega Man02 wrote:
happygilmore wrote:
goalgetter wrote:
mcik17 wrote:Let me make this whole situation real for everyone. I have never hid who I am or what team I'm affliated and I wasn't even really sure I wanted to post anything about this situation and just add to the drama, but let me tell you I learned tonight that this is real to a little 10 year old girl and not just some forum drama!

First off, I'm not sure if I'm mad at Glotz, or the Texans, or the parent drama including myself....maybe its all the above! I think what Glotz did this weekend was wrong and obvious...I'm not sure why he would do it but it happened and I told him I wasn't happy. Everyone that wasnt at the game doesn't know. Don't act like its just 9 yr old soccer and our kids don't care because they do care. They knew it was a big game, they talked about it and I'm sure heard the parents talk about it. You should of seen the girls when they scored the go ahead goal...they were going crazy...it wasn't just the normal reaction...they knew what they were accomplishing. And Glotzbach didn't seem to want to give them every chance at that victory. I'm still not sure why?

Now to the part that really made it hit home. I told my dd tonight that Coach Glotzbach was quiting and guess what her response was? Is it because we didn't beat the Rowdies? Now do you think she knew it was a big game? Then she started crying and tried to hide the fact she was crying. If anyone knows my dd she doesn't cry...she is the "Stone Cold Goalie" no emotion! Then she blamed herself and said if I just hadn't let that last goal in! At this point I'm getting upset and pissed at the same time. Why is my dd blaming herself for a coach leaving? She obviously loves this coach and he was always great with them. This is testament to how good of a coach he was...the girls love him!! I tried to tell her it was just a coaching change and it always happens. She cried herself to sleep tonight. She doesn't want to lose her coach or her friends! But, I am having a hard time justifying leaving her with the Texans if this is how its run! But, I don't want to add to my dd's emotions by taking her away from her friends also! I'm at a crossroads with no good outcome for my dd.

The new plan is for the both Higgabothams(Rowdies) and Bennett(ex Glotz) to practice together as one unit with 2 coaches. I assume this fall season the teams will stay seperate for game purposes. Then I assume they will make a super team and a "b" team. I also assume when this happens there will be upset parents that will take their dd's elsewhere and then the 2nd team will most likely implode again and this whole drama scene will start all over again. So basically if we stay we will be kicking the can down the road and putting off the inevitable! Of course if your dd makes the top team everything will be fine until playing time issues arise. I'm just not sure if I want to go thru the drama again in a couple of months right before signing contract time and have to scramble to find a team at the last moment because my dd didn't make the "A" team and most girls that made the "b" teams decided to go find greener pastures. This is the senario I'm afraid of happening!

What do I do? I have a good team that wants my dd. But, my dd and our family also have very good friends that we will miss dearly! This whole situation sucks!


Hell yeah it sucks! The Texans don't care about this team. All they want are numbers to chose from to add to their all mighty Rowdies/Texans team. They want to play the parents like fools keep em coming out and make em feel that the team is just as important. When all they really want is to develop 3 to 5 girls to add to Higgs team. That is really not a bad plan, but when the parents are being told one thing and then the club does the total opposite it let's you know that the only thing being looked out for is the Club and not the DD's that put in all the hard work. I'm not bitter about the Higg team I will be the first to say that my DD is not on that level YET!! Just tired of everybody worrying about what the Higg team is doing?? Who cares what they are doing.....the only concern here should be Glotz team. This team is a really good team and has closed the gap significantly. No need to mix up the teams. This team is a team that don't depend on just 2 or 3 studs, every DD on the team brings something special to the team from top to bottom. And the chemistry that they have built up is impressive. I would hate to see all this hard work go to waste over some clubs greed....this team has the potential to be the top team in 02's. Just don't get why some people are so ready to jump ship... not saying you are Mcik I know you are very committed to your dd and the team. If the parents are really sincere about keeping this team in tact then in my little opinion I think the best thing going foward would be to take the team as a whole to another club. This would take the team out from under the shadows of the Higg team and really allow the team to compete to their max potential. Their is something to be said about buiding it, develop it, and earning it. This team is right there on the doorstep pounding in the door. I don't know I'm just saying........K Medina and camp looking pretty good at Sting!!!!
NEWSFLASH parents----YOU are the CUSTOMERS , they (Ryan, Jason, Tim, Hassien) work for you, you pay them!!!!! If you are not happy keep your solid team together and find a club that will treat you right. No one want to see a good TExans team leave -but if you all are this fed up-ban together and leave or threathen to until you get what you want. [/quote]
All I have to say is Your Right.
agreed!!

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Please say that you don't believe this BS that Jason didn't coach to win that game!!! The only thing that sucks about this game is the parents probably didn't truly congratulate their daughters with complete excitement about playing such a great game as a TEAM...they were pissed about some fabricated idea. I have a perfect example of why Jason did NOT coach to lose..but instead he wanted to allow ALL the girls to feel somewhat part of the BIG game. And, instead of saying 'Thank You' to Jason for doing a great job developing the girls and helping them enjoy the game...it was the mob looking for blood. I congratulate Jason for telling all the parents that attacked him "goodbye!" Truly unfortunate for the girls that the parents had to be immature ones.


I will let you answer your own question with this one fact. With 8 minutes to go Glotz was down by one and had his top 2 scorers on the bench and they never were subed in the game and he put his 3rd leading scorer back at defender. Now your question was did I really think he wasn't trying to win? Maybe you are CHARLIE SHEEN and your view of WINNING is differant than mine, but if your trying to win you put your best players/scorers in the game! What is your definition of winning?
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Mega Man02 wrote:Yes they will be their tonight. But what goes on behind close doors, only the parents know. Do you really think they will stay. Maybe a few but the rest will leave. JMO!

You can always PM 1v1 Phenom...he was trolling for players this weekend to fill out his DDs FCD Grubb team. ...sorry 1v1 had to give them a lead.

I will tell you what I hear at work all the time.

Thats not my job!!!!!

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Staywide wrote:
goalgetter wrote:
Mega Man02 wrote:
happygilmore wrote:
goalgetter wrote:
mcik17 wrote:Let me make this whole situation real for everyone. I have never hid who I am or what team I'm affliated and I wasn't even really sure I wanted to post anything about this situation and just add to the drama, but let me tell you I learned tonight that this is real to a little 10 year old girl and not just some forum drama!

First off, I'm not sure if I'm mad at Glotz, or the Texans, or the parent drama including myself....maybe its all the above! I think what Glotz did this weekend was wrong and obvious...I'm not sure why he would do it but it happened and I told him I wasn't happy. Everyone that wasnt at the game doesn't know. Don't act like its just 9 yr old soccer and our kids don't care because they do care. They knew it was a big game, they talked about it and I'm sure heard the parents talk about it. You should of seen the girls when they scored the go ahead goal...they were going crazy...it wasn't just the normal reaction...they knew what they were accomplishing. And Glotzbach didn't seem to want to give them every chance at that victory. I'm still not sure why?

Now to the part that really made it hit home. I told my dd tonight that Coach Glotzbach was quiting and guess what her response was? Is it because we didn't beat the Rowdies? Now do you think she knew it was a big game? Then she started crying and tried to hide the fact she was crying. If anyone knows my dd she doesn't cry...she is the "Stone Cold Goalie" no emotion! Then she blamed herself and said if I just hadn't let that last goal in! At this point I'm getting upset and pissed at the same time. Why is my dd blaming herself for a coach leaving? She obviously loves this coach and he was always great with them. This is testament to how good of a coach he was...the girls love him!! I tried to tell her it was just a coaching change and it always happens. She cried herself to sleep tonight. She doesn't want to lose her coach or her friends! But, I am having a hard time justifying leaving her with the Texans if this is how its run! But, I don't want to add to my dd's emotions by taking her away from her friends also! I'm at a crossroads with no good outcome for my dd.

The new plan is for the both Higgabothams(Rowdies) and Bennett(ex Glotz) to practice together as one unit with 2 coaches. I assume this fall season the teams will stay seperate for game purposes. Then I assume they will make a super team and a "b" team. I also assume when this happens there will be upset parents that will take their dd's elsewhere and then the 2nd team will most likely implode again and this whole drama scene will start all over again. So basically if we stay we will be kicking the can down the road and putting off the inevitable! Of course if your dd makes the top team everything will be fine until playing time issues arise. I'm just not sure if I want to go thru the drama again in a couple of months right before signing contract time and have to scramble to find a team at the last moment because my dd didn't make the "A" team and most girls that made the "b" teams decided to go find greener pastures. This is the senario I'm afraid of happening!

What do I do? I have a good team that wants my dd. But, my dd and our family also have very good friends that we will miss dearly! This whole situation sucks!


Hell yeah it sucks! The Texans don't care about this team. All they want are numbers to chose from to add to their all mighty Rowdies/Texans team. They want to play the parents like fools keep em coming out and make em feel that the team is just as important. When all they really want is to develop 3 to 5 girls to add to Higgs team. That is really not a bad plan, but when the parents are being told one thing and then the club does the total opposite it let's you know that the only thing being looked out for is the Club and not the DD's that put in all the hard work. I'm not bitter about the Higg team I will be the first to say that my DD is not on that level YET!! Just tired of everybody worrying about what the Higg team is doing?? Who cares what they are doing.....the only concern here should be Glotz team. This team is a really good team and has closed the gap significantly. No need to mix up the teams. This team is a team that don't depend on just 2 or 3 studs, every DD on the team brings something special to the team from top to bottom. And the chemistry that they have built up is impressive. I would hate to see all this hard work go to waste over some clubs greed....this team has the potential to be the top team in 02's. Just don't get why some people are so ready to jump ship... not saying you are Mcik I know you are very committed to your dd and the team. If the parents are really sincere about keeping this team in tact then in my little opinion I think the best thing going foward would be to take the team as a whole to another club. This would take the team out from under the shadows of the Higg team and really allow the team to compete to their max potential. Their is something to be said about buiding it, develop it, and earning it. This team is right there on the doorstep pounding in the door. I don't know I'm just saying........K Medina and camp looking pretty good at Sting!!!!
NEWSFLASH parents----YOU are the CUSTOMERS , they (Ryan, Jason, Tim, Hassien) work for you, you pay them!!!!! If you are not happy keep your solid team together and find a club that will treat you right. No one want to see a good TExans team leave -but if you all are this fed up-ban together and leave or threathen to until you get what you want. [/quote]
All I have to say is Your Right.
agreed!!

mcik17 -
Please say that you don't believe this BS that Jason didn't coach to win that game!!! The only thing that sucks about this game is the parents probably didn't truly congratulate their daughters with complete excitement about playing such a great game as a TEAM...they were pissed about some fabricated idea. I have a perfect example of why Jason did NOT coach to lose..but instead he wanted to allow ALL the girls to feel somewhat part of the BIG game. And, instead of saying 'Thank You' to Jason for doing a great job developing the girls and helping them enjoy the game...it was the mob looking for blood. I congratulate Jason for telling all the parents that attacked him "goodbye!" Truly unfortunate for the girls that the parents had to be immature ones.


I will let you answer your own question with this one fact. With 8 minutes to go Glotz was down by one and had his top 2 scorers on the bench and they never were subed in the game and he put his 3rd leading scorer back at defender. Now your question was did I really think he wasn't trying to win? Maybe you are CHARLIE SHEEN and your view of winning is differant than mine, but if your trying to win you put your best players/scorers in the game! What is your definition of winning?

I don't have a kid at this age, or even near this age. I couldn't pick this coach out of a lineup of 2 people with one of them being Fred Berry. I don't know any parents that have kids at this age, or do I know any kids that play select soccer at this age. I have no kid that even plays for this club. I am completely neutral on this situation, but I have been reading this garbage.

Winning at all costs at this age is ridiculous. All of the 02 parents will feel this same way in 4-5 years, except for the obvious nut cases that will still be lurking about. Most of them will be long gone though.

I read post after post of everyone on this board and hear nothing but, "I'm looking for development over winning," "As long as my DD is happy….," "Europe develops players and North Texas loses in the long term because it is all about winning," etc. etc. Everyone says the right thing, but the parents prove otherwise. Anytime someone loses a close game, especially with a questionable call involved, or there is an upset between 8 and 9 year old teams, or a coach makes a move that is questionable, the boards blow up with speculation, conjecture and complete insanity.

Why is winning so important at this age? You all claim that development is the most important thing. It sounds to me like this coach is looking to develop a group of girls and not go balls out to win. By playing all the girls, this will make the team better in the long run. Apparently he has been coaching for a while and realizes this. Yet the parents are all concerned with the game in front of them and winning it at all costs. Play the good players and bench the lesser players! We've got to win this little girl soccer game!

I'm going to assume your coach doesn't have this philosophy, even though the parents do. Maybe it is because this is the highest level of competition that the parents have ever been involved in and they can't see into the future and realize that it becomes much more competitive at an older age and that this early age isn't life or death.

I suggest you seek counsel from those that have been there before and now reside in the 98 forums and older. I myself used to get worked up over the coach playing a girl out of position, or sitting a good player most of the game, or just doing anything that didn't coincide with my noobie thoughts on soccer and how to run a team and win games. As it turns out, I was wrong, the coach was right, and I couldn't tell you one score to any of those games way back then.

I'm glad to see this coach walked. Good for him. This speaks to the parents being a bunch of lunatics. No way this is the first time that the parental group has gotten out of control. There has to be a history of this from this group for a respected coach to abandon this team. The parents should be ashamed, but it looks as some of them are taking to the boards to prove their own sorriness.

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Post by GuessMe 09/09/11, 01:04 am

Amen to that. Why don't the parents who were involved in this go ahead and pack up their bags and leave? Better yet, why would you want to stay at a club you suspect of being that nefarious? Plus, I'm not sure you're too welcome here anyway. Enough is enough. You've imploded this team. I'm sure the other team's parents are wondering what kind of freak show this is. Although I suspect a few of them know the history.

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Post by mcik17 09/09/11, 02:23 am

[quote="giggedy"]
mcik17 wrote:
Staywide wrote:
goalgetter wrote:
Mega Man02 wrote:
happygilmore wrote:
goalgetter wrote:
mcik17 wrote:Let me make this whole situation real for everyone. I have never hid who I am or what team I'm affliated and I wasn't even really sure I wanted to post anything about this situation and just add to the drama, but let me tell you I learned tonight that this is real to a little 10 year old girl and not just some forum drama!

First off, I'm not sure if I'm mad at Glotz, or the Texans, or the parent drama including myself....maybe its all the above! I think what Glotz did this weekend was wrong and obvious...I'm not sure why he would do it but it happened and I told him I wasn't happy. Everyone that wasnt at the game doesn't know. Don't act like its just 9 yr old soccer and our kids don't care because they do care. They knew it was a big game, they talked about it and I'm sure heard the parents talk about it. You should of seen the girls when they scored the go ahead goal...they were going crazy...it wasn't just the normal reaction...they knew what they were accomplishing. And Glotzbach didn't seem to want to give them every chance at that victory. I'm still not sure why?

Now to the part that really made it hit home. I told my dd tonight that Coach Glotzbach was quiting and guess what her response was? Is it because we didn't beat the Rowdies? Now do you think she knew it was a big game? Then she started crying and tried to hide the fact she was crying. If anyone knows my dd she doesn't cry...she is the "Stone Cold Goalie" no emotion! Then she blamed herself and said if I just hadn't let that last goal in! At this point I'm getting upset and pissed at the same time. Why is my dd blaming herself for a coach leaving? She obviously loves this coach and he was always great with them. This is testament to how good of a coach he was...the girls love him!! I tried to tell her it was just a coaching change and it always happens. She cried herself to sleep tonight. She doesn't want to lose her coach or her friends! But, I am having a hard time justifying leaving her with the Texans if this is how its run! But, I don't want to add to my dd's emotions by taking her away from her friends also! I'm at a crossroads with no good outcome for my dd.

The new plan is for the both Higgabothams(Rowdies) and Bennett(ex Glotz) to practice together as one unit with 2 coaches. I assume this fall season the teams will stay seperate for game purposes. Then I assume they will make a super team and a "b" team. I also assume when this happens there will be upset parents that will take their dd's elsewhere and then the 2nd team will most likely implode again and this whole drama scene will start all over again. So basically if we stay we will be kicking the can down the road and putting off the inevitable! Of course if your dd makes the top team everything will be fine until playing time issues arise. I'm just not sure if I want to go thru the drama again in a couple of months right before signing contract time and have to scramble to find a team at the last moment because my dd didn't make the "A" team and most girls that made the "b" teams decided to go find greener pastures. This is the senario I'm afraid of happening!

What do I do? I have a good team that wants my dd. But, my dd and our family also have very good friends that we will miss dearly! This whole situation sucks!


Hell yeah it sucks! The Texans don't care about this team. All they want are numbers to chose from to add to their all mighty Rowdies/Texans team. They want to play the parents like fools keep em coming out and make em feel that the team is just as important. When all they really want is to develop 3 to 5 girls to add to Higgs team. That is really not a bad plan, but when the parents are being told one thing and then the club does the total opposite it let's you know that the only thing being looked out for is the Club and not the DD's that put in all the hard work. I'm not bitter about the Higg team I will be the first to say that my DD is not on that level YET!! Just tired of everybody worrying about what the Higg team is doing?? Who cares what they are doing.....the only concern here should be Glotz team. This team is a really good team and has closed the gap significantly. No need to mix up the teams. This team is a team that don't depend on just 2 or 3 studs, every DD on the team brings something special to the team from top to bottom. And the chemistry that they have built up is impressive. I would hate to see all this hard work go to waste over some clubs greed....this team has the potential to be the top team in 02's. Just don't get why some people are so ready to jump ship... not saying you are Mcik I know you are very committed to your dd and the team. If the parents are really sincere about keeping this team in tact then in my little opinion I think the best thing going foward would be to take the team as a whole to another club. This would take the team out from under the shadows of the Higg team and really allow the team to compete to their max potential. Their is something to be said about buiding it, develop it, and earning it. This team is right there on the doorstep pounding in the door. I don't know I'm just saying........K Medina and camp looking pretty good at Sting!!!!
NEWSFLASH parents----YOU are the CUSTOMERS , they (Ryan, Jason, Tim, Hassien) work for you, you pay them!!!!! If you are not happy keep your solid team together and find a club that will treat you right. No one want to see a good TExans team leave -but if you all are this fed up-ban together and leave or threathen to until you get what you want. [/quote]
All I have to say is Your Right.
agreed!!

mcik17 -
Please say that you don't believe this BS that Jason didn't coach to win that game!!! The only thing that sucks about this game is the parents probably didn't truly congratulate their daughters with complete excitement about playing such a great game as a TEAM...they were pissed about some fabricated idea. I have a perfect example of why Jason did NOT coach to lose..but instead he wanted to allow ALL the girls to feel somewhat part of the BIG game. And, instead of saying 'Thank You' to Jason for doing a great job developing the girls and helping them enjoy the game...it was the mob looking for blood. I congratulate Jason for telling all the parents that attacked him "goodbye!" Truly unfortunate for the girls that the parents had to be immature ones.


I will let you answer your own question with this one fact. With 8 minutes to go Glotz was down by one and had his top 2 scorers on the bench and they never were subed in the game and he put his 3rd leading scorer back at defender. Now your question was did I really think he wasn't trying to win? Maybe you are CHARLIE SHEEN and your view of winning is differant than mine, but if your trying to win you put your best players/scorers in the game! What is your definition of winning?

I don't have a kid at this age, or even near this age. I couldn't pick this coach out of a lineup of 2 people with one of them being Fred Berry. I don't know any parents that have kids at this age, or do I know any kids that play select soccer at this age. I have no kid that even plays for this club. I am completely neutral on this situation, but I have been reading this garbage.

Winning at all costs at this age is ridiculous. All of the 02 parents will feel this same way in 4-5 years, except for the obvious nut cases that will still be lurking about. Most of them will be long gone though.

I read post after post of everyone on this board and hear nothing but, "I'm looking for development over winning," "As long as my DD is happy….," "Europe develops players and North Texas loses in the long term because it is all about winning," etc. etc. Everyone says the right thing, but the parents prove otherwise. Anytime someone loses a close game, especially with a questionable call involved, or there is an upset between 8 and 9 year old teams, or a coach makes a move that is questionable, the boards blow up with speculation, conjecture and complete insanity.

Why is winning so important at this age? You all claim that development is the most important thing. It sounds to me like this coach is looking to develop a group of girls and not go balls out to win. By playing all the girls, this will make the team better in the long run. Apparently he has been coaching for a while and realizes this. Yet the parents are all concerned with the game in front of them and winning it at all costs. Play the good players and bench the lesser players! We've got to win this little girl soccer game!

I'm going to assume your coach doesn't have this philosophy, even though the parents do. Maybe it is because this is the highest level of competition that the parents have ever been involved in and they can't see into the future and realize that it becomes much more competitive at an older age and that this early age isn't life or death.

I suggest you seek counsel from those that have been there before and now reside in the 98 forums and older. I myself used to get worked up over the coach playing a girl out of position, or sitting a good player most of the game, or just doing anything that didn't coincide with my noobie thoughts on soccer and how to run a team and win games. As it turns out, I was wrong, the coach was right, and I couldn't tell you one score to any of those games way back then.

I'm glad to see this coach walked. Good for him. This speaks to the parents being a bunch of lunatics. No way this is the first time that the parental group has gotten out of control. There has to be a history of this from this group for a respected coach to abandon this team. The parents should be ashamed, but it looks as some of them are taking to the boards to prove their own sorriness.

Congratulations on filling up 9 pages of dialogue in a couple of days that you will one day regret.

I wish they would hold a tourny for teams that just worry about development, maybe we would finally win a trophy! Can you guys point me in the right direction to find one? All the tourny's our team enters requires you to actually play the game and WIN in order to get that Trophy that our girls have never won. I guess its to much of me to wish my dd could get one so she could have that big smile on her face like Webbs girls always do! All the other top teams seem to try and win in those tourny's. I guess its just to much to ask a coach to give your girls every chance to win in a tourny also...after all we are playing 2 games a weekend this fall. Plenty of games to develop players. Thank goodness Lake Highlands doesnt look at teams results from tournys and league games to seed teams for qualifying tourny the season before going select. I know most coaches don't care about winning games the year before select either. Oh wait....you mean all that matters!!!So most coaches do care about winning, tourny directors require winning to advance, so God forbid us parents for wanting our little girls to experiance a little tourny success...we are crazy and radical.

Good luck to all girls this weekend. I agree this thread has gone on to long! I won't be adding anything else to it.
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