Why is there No protection given to Keepers anymore

Unicorns wrote:HA, although I hesitate to question an authority such as "The Soccer Mom Manual", if little Johnny in the picture missed the ball and his leg is up that high and trips a forward going for the ball, it is a PK, everytime.

 

I Googled and chose the source most appropriate for the audience. Feel free to ask your DD's club GK coach about the proper form, if you like.

Thanks soc dad a pic says a 1000 words

Interestingly on the Schumacher collision there was no call.  Here is another collision with someone I work with where there was only a yellow card.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVGqmxeb4TQ

So it seems as if the refs show little consistency as has been stated.  An awful lot of whining from the forwards who are afraid of as little fist in the face so save them some of that cheese.  I like the way Neuer handled himself in the WC.  The forward who got blasted was called for the foul.  There was also a time when the forward kept running toward him after he fielded it and got put on their rear.  The GK should have a right to keep moving forward with the ball and the forward needs to get out of the way.

If 8 pages has taught anyone, anything, it is that goalkeepers parents think they have the right of way; and forwards parents think they have the right of way.  

If the keeper is allowed to keep moving forward as Hard Practice says, and the forward is allowed to keep moving forward and trying to get the ball, as the forwards parents seem to say, maybe we should allow massive collisions in the box and it is a foul on no one.  

Either that or we need another 8 pages of discussion to figure it out.   

Just glad my kid plays midfield and rarely gets in either goal box.  

Unicorns wrote:If 8 pages has taught anyone, anything, it is that goalkeepers parents think they have the right of way; and forwards parents think they have the right of way.  

If the keeper is allowed to keep moving forward as Hard Practice says, and the forward is allowed to keep moving forward and trying to get the ball, as the forwards parents seem to say, maybe we should allow massive collisions in the box and it is a foul on no one.  

Either that or we need another 8 pages of discussion to figure it out.   

Just glad my kid plays midfield and rarely gets in either goal box.  

Thats what Im talking about unicorn either call it both ways or not at all Im for the not at all and let the players protect themself

I don't know that I was arguing that GKs should always have the right of way.  It just seemed important to address GGoat's original point her DD keeper had her leg up, which is perfectly fine standard form for self-preservation (unless she actually was trying to go Cobra Kai on the forward).

Hard Practice wrote:Interestingly on the Schumacher collision there was no call.  Here is another collision with someone I work with where there was only a yellow card.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVGqmxeb4TQ

So it seems as if the refs show little consistency as has been stated.  An awful lot of whining from the forwards who are afraid of as little fist in the face so save them some of that cheese.  I like the way Neuer handled himself in the WC.  The forward who got blasted was called for the foul.  There was also a time when the forward kept running toward him after he fielded it and got put on their rear.  The GK should have a right to keep moving forward with the ball and the forward needs to get out of the way.

That keeper was head hunting and not going for the ball at all. Im talking about a keeper diving for a ball and picking her leg up to protect her body. That kid should have been suspended
I think your right the inconstancy of the calls is what makes it difficult.

GGoat wrote:

Unicorns wrote:If 8 pages has taught anyone, anything, it is that goalkeepers parents think they have the right of way; and forwards parents think they have the right of way.  

If the keeper is allowed to keep moving forward as Hard Practice says, and the forward is allowed to keep moving forward and trying to get the ball, as the forwards parents seem to say, maybe we should allow massive collisions in the box and it is a foul on no one.  

Either that or we need another 8 pages of discussion to figure it out.   

Just glad my kid plays midfield and rarely gets in either goal box.  

Thats what Im talking about unicorn either call it both ways or not at all Im for the not at all and let the players protect themself

you can call a simple foul both ways but as has been REPEATED OVER AND OVER, the "laws of the game" INSTRUCT AND MANDATE harsher penalties on the defending team in their own 18 yd area than on the attacking team. are you trying to change the laws of the game GG?

Several studies have been done showing soccer injuries show no prevalence for ANY position. This means keepers aren't injured anymore often than any other position. The idea goalkeeping is more dangerous is myth. Keepers get hurt sometimes, and sometimes they're the ones doing the hurting. No different than anyone else.

Hasn't this dead horse been kicked enough?

FierceLightning wrote:Hasn't this dead horse been kicked enough?

we can make it to 10 after this weekend if anyone is playing

http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/soccer-injuries.html#

Above is one example of many turned up with a quick google...this one also has some pretty good info on injury prevention exercises.

GGoat wrote:

Unicorns wrote:If 8 pages has taught anyone, anything, it is that goalkeepers parents think they have the right of way; and forwards parents think they have the right of way.  

If the keeper is allowed to keep moving forward as Hard Practice says, and the forward is allowed to keep moving forward and trying to get the ball, as the forwards parents seem to say, maybe we should allow massive collisions in the box and it is a foul on no one.  

Either that or we need another 8 pages of discussion to figure it out.   

Just glad my kid plays midfield and rarely gets in either goal box.  

Thats what Im talking about unicorn either call it both ways or not at all Im for the not at all and let the players protect themself

Ok Goat. That's a deal! We refs just won't call it at all, so when your daughter's head gets bashed in a few times per game, we will overlook her tripping or raising her leg against the forward to "protect herself!"

Remember, don't came whining on here, especially after what you just said.   

Coach&Ref wrote:

GGoat wrote:

Unicorns wrote:If 8 pages has taught anyone, anything, it is that goalkeepers parents think they have the right of way; and forwards parents think they have the right of way.  

If the keeper is allowed to keep moving forward as Hard Practice says, and the forward is allowed to keep moving forward and trying to get the ball, as the forwards parents seem to say, maybe we should allow massive collisions in the box and it is a foul on no one.  

Either that or we need another 8 pages of discussion to figure it out.   

Just glad my kid plays midfield and rarely gets in either goal box.  

Thats what Im talking about unicorn either call it both ways or not at all Im for the not at all and let the players protect themself

Ok Goat. That's a deal! We refs just won't call it at all, so when your daughter's head gets bashed in a few times per game, we will overlook her tripping or raising her leg against the forward to "protect herself!"

Remember, don't came whining on here, especially after what you just said.   

Alright you dont call it anyway   

It was fun but I think this horse is dead

Thank The Lord !

That is until his daughter gives away another penalty kick!   

O crap triumph wants to start it up again

Tacky on my part

Honcho47 wrote:I have an answer GGoat.... Teach your daughter to quit failing at her job. That way you can't complain about Arlington refs. How many calls get made against a keeper that handles the ball cleanly?

Is it GGoats persistance on this subject that sets you off or is it that you are just an @$$ hole? "Quit teaching her to fail". C'mon man, really. I am a keepers parent so I understand his concern. Whether you agree with him or not or if his persistance annoys you, all he is doing is looking out for his DD. The same thing we all are doing. With that being said your remark was not productive or helpfull. Nothing but a cheap jab.

Is it GGoats persistance on this subject that sets you off or is it that you are just an @$$ hole? "Quit teaching her to fail". C'mon man, really. I am a keepers parent so I understand his concern. Whether you agree with him or not or if his persistance annoys you, all he is doing is looking out for his DD. The same thing we all are doing. With that being said your remark was not productive or helpfull. Nothing but a cheap jab.[/quote]

My intention was to stir the pot. Looking back it was just mean

Cleansheets wrote:

Honcho47 wrote:I have an answer GGoat.... Teach your daughter to quit failing at her job. That way you can't complain about Arlington refs. How many calls get made against a keeper that handles the ball cleanly?

Is it GGoats persistance on this subject that sets you off or is it that you are just an @$$ hole? "Quit teaching her to fail". C'mon man, really. I am a keepers parent so I understand his concern. Whether you agree with him or not or if his persistance annoys you, all he is doing is looking out for his DD. The same thing we all are doing. With that being said your remark was not productive or helpfull. Nothing but a cheap jab.

May be his persistence in wanting to change the LOTG game, or to always apply his interpretation of the LOTG in his DD's games to protect his DD at the expense of anyone else on the field.

GGoat wrote:

FierceLightning wrote:Hasn't this dead horse been kicked enough?

we can make it to 10 after this weekend if anyone is playing

So when did this thread become less of a point for you and turned into a egotistic competition for yourself? Maybe page 5?

FierceLightning wrote:

GGoat wrote:

FierceLightning wrote:Hasn't this dead horse been kicked enough?

we can make it to 10 after this weekend if anyone is playing

So when did this thread become less of a point for you and turned into a egotistic competition for yourself? Maybe page 5?

I get the jest of your comment Fierce but it NEVER was a "point for" lol

ONLYASOCCERDAD wrote:

FierceLightning wrote:

GGoat wrote:

FierceLightning wrote:Hasn't this dead horse been kicked enough?

we can make it to 10 after this weekend if anyone is playing

So when did this thread become less of a point for you and turned into a egotistic competition for yourself? Maybe page 5?

I get the jest of your comment Fierce but it NEVER  was a "point for" lol

  ... yep keepers have it bad.....I think there needs to be a specific keeper ref on each end and can ONLY call keeper fouls , or more specific, fouls AGAINST keepers...That should give them a bit more protection. Of course, ALL the parents will need to pony up and pay them.

FierceLightning wrote:

ONLYASOCCERDAD wrote:

FierceLightning wrote:

GGoat wrote:

FierceLightning wrote:Hasn't this dead horse been kicked enough?

we can make it to 10 after this weekend if anyone is playing

So when did this thread become less of a point for you and turned into a egotistic competition for yourself? Maybe page 5?

I get the jest of your comment Fierce but it NEVER  was a "point for" lol

  ... yep keepers have it bad.....I think there needs to be a specific keeper ref on each end and can ONLY call keeper fouls , or more specific, fouls AGAINST keepers...That should give them a bit more protection. Of course, ALL the parents will need to pony up and pay them.

Or you could just let the keepers parents fill the role.